Scott Bessent

Secretary of the Treasury, U.S. Department of the Treasury · 1 appearance on the record.

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Before entering government, Bessent served as Chief Investment Officer of Soros Fund Management and founded the global macro investment firm Key Square Group. In 2025, he took office as the 79th U.S. Treasury Secretary, overseeing national economic policy, trade strategy, tariffs, and fiscal regulation.

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Prediction Open · timeframe Nov 2026
Bessent: Marine Le Pen will become president of France in 18-24 months
“I would predict that in the next 18 or 24 months, Marine Le Pen The bête noire of European politics is going to be president of France, and she's going to be president of France because the alternative on the left is worse than she is.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 57:43 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Opinion
Bessent: 2024 election is last chance to outgrow US debt burden
“And I think we can through deregulation, energy, independence, and dominance in the U.S., and a growth mindset. We can get back to growth. I feel very strongly that this is the last chance to grow our way out of this.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 59:30 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Microeconomic company data drives macro decisions better than aggregate models
“My style, still the Duquesne style, is that the micro drives the macro. We can get a huge amount of information from what companies are telling us. We can't predict the PCE deflator better than anybody. We can't have a better model for LEI, but if trucking com…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 21:30 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Opinion
Bessent: Xi Jinping won't allow market clearing needed for a sustainable economy
“He's a Leninist, so he's not going to allow a clearing function in the market that would Allow for a sustainable Chinese economy.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 55:12 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Bessent: A Bretton Woods-scale realignment is coming to global trade
“I also felt very strongly that we're in the midst of a great realignment and of a Bretton Woods realignments coming in terms of global policy, global trade.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 59:48 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Why defending the British pound in 1992 was politically impossible
“My contribution was just an observation that the British housing market, that mortgages there, floated with the base rate, which is their overnight rate. And if the Bank of England raised rates on Wednesday, mortgages went up on Friday. If they were trying to …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 26:49 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Assertion Partly supported
Bessent: 1992 pound short risked only 2.5% against massive asymmetric upside
“Because of the exchange rate mechanism, the Bank of England or the British government had to buy an unlimited number of pounds to keep the pound in a quarter. So it was an asymmetric bet. We could push them up against the wall And the most they could push us b…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 29:01 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Allocators Get Best Results Adding to Good Managers in Slumps
“There was a very good study from the Common Fund that said one of the most successful strategies for allocators that when you believe in the manager, and I always tried to do this when I was at Soros or any investment committee that I'm on, When a manager has …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 51:53 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Disclosure
Bessent: Gold is my largest position in a long-term bull market
“Then I think we are in a long-term bull market in gold. I think we're seeing reserve accumulation by central banks. I follow it closely. It's my biggest position.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 55:23 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: In money management, objective P&L protects you from social networking biases
“I think maybe subconsciously one of the reasons I was attracted to money management, the numbers are the numbers. It's not a sales job. You don't live next to clients in Greenwich, and they're going to give you commissions because you're at the country club to…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 1:01:51 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bessent: Mortgage book author's fund lost 100% during the subprime crisis
“We had a very distinguished mortgage manager come into the office. I think he'd actually written the Wiley book on mortgages and tell us what a great buy mortgages were halfway through the crisis, and I think his fund went down a hundred percent.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 8:44 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Bad government regulatory policy creates highly profitable investment opportunities
“That was really my first go with seeing how bad policy creates good investment opportunities.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 18:31 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Opinion
Bessent: George Soros's Greatest Investment Was Hiring Stanley Druckenmiller
“I think the greatest investment he ever made was finding Stan, because in He turned over the portfolio, but was still kind of actively involved from the sidelines. Then the following year when the Berlin Wall came down, he was able to spend more of his time on…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 25:28 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Assertion Partly supported
Bessent: Soros used 300% leverage to gain 140% trading 1980s currency accords
“He kept a trading journal in a year when he was up over a 140%, and these currency, the realignments, the plaza cord, the lube cord happened. The things move six percent in a night, and He would add a 300% position because things really used to trend a lot mor…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 29:58 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Great external managers provide big thematic trade ideas and SPVs
“A very good manager is someone you're proud to be invested with. They have good returns and you never have to worry about the phone call that things have gone pear-shaped. So that's a very good manager for an outside manager. A great manager would be someone w…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 31:08 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Opinion
Bessent: LTCM's 1998 collapse was relative value gone amok, not macro
“Long-term capital had blown up in 1998, And that wasn't really macro, it was more RV gone amok.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 32:15 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Assertion Partly supported
Bessent: Soros bought Jon Corzine's $3.5B Italian bond liquidation in 2011
“I think five days in, the biggest trade I'd ever done was John Corzine's firm got liquidated out of their Italian bond position, and it was a three and a half billion dollar trade. I still had the index card that I worked it out on. JP Morgan called us, and I …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 36:22 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Liquid markets are like cards and backgammon, not chess
“The liquid markets game are cards and backgammon. It is luck and how are you going to manage the hand you're dealt?”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 38:18 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Failed economic policies still generate massive, lucrative market price gyrations
“The policy decision doesn't have to work. But it can cause a lot of price gyration.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 46:48 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Cutting risk in December is almost always right
“When I look back, almost every time that I've taken it down, it's been the right thing to do, because there's always a counter trend.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 48:59 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Portfolios cannot survive being concentrated, illiquid, and leveraged all at once
“One of my risk management techniques have been, you can be one thing, but not many. You can't be concentrated, illiquid, and leveraged. I prefer to be liquid and then to use leverage.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 50:06 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Insight
Bessent: Macro investing requires episodic home runs rather than steady win rates
“A lot of macro tends to be more Babe Ruth than Ted Williams, and the investors grow impatient, they pull out, you have a big year, big two years, the money comes back in, rents and repeat.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 51:18 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Opinion
Bessent: Japan could be in a secular bull market
“Japan. I believe that this could be a secular bull market. One of the few in the world.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 57:07 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bessent: Ray Dalio pitched his research newsletters door-to-door in the 1980s
“All these CEOs and getting all this great exposure, and also getting great exposure, people like Leon Cooperman, Byron Wayne, Ray Dalio used to come in and sell us this newsletter.”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 13:52 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)

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Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415) Nov 4, 2024 44m
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