bank

also referred to as: banks

33 statements across 30 episodes · 12 bullish · 12 bearish · 30 people on the record · first statement Dec 11, 2017 by Chris Acito · across every show →

Everything said about bank, oldest first

Dec 11, 2017
Insight
Acito: Direct lending due diligence resembles evaluating a bank, not hedge funds
“Credit investing is very different in that it. Looks more like a bank. It's particularly when you get into the new origination elements of investing or maybe prop trading to some extent, but just take on the direct lending side. When you walk in to evaluate a …”
Chris Acito Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 46:09 Chris Acito – Credit Where Credit is Due (Capital Allocators, EP.33)
Feb 19, 2018 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Hamed: Banks lend to founders but ignore rank-and-file startup employees
“Banks have provided liquidity to founders all the time with PGs, but there's no one who's really been serving employee 20 through 2000.”
Ali Hamed Feb 19, 2018 ▶ 27:34 Ali Hamed - Novel Asset Investing (Capital Allocators, EP.40)
Apr 23, 2018 positive
Insight
Cembalest: Bank recapitalizations speed market and employment recoveries faster than bad-loan purchases
“When governments recapitalize banks, the recovery and the equity markets and employment tend to happen more quickly than when governments simply buy their bad loans.”
Michael Cembalest Apr 23, 2018 ▶ 37:28 Michael Cembalest – Eye on the Market (Capital Allocators, EP.49)
Jul 23, 2018 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Friedman: Banks face massive disruption from mobile payments within 20 years
“Certainly banks are going to be under unbelievable pressure, but I'm talking 20 years from now by this. I'm holding up a cell phone, an Apple phone, because go to Kenya. You don't have banks. You have mobile payments. Go to China.”
Manny Friedman Jul 23, 2018 ▶ 35:56 Manny Friedman – Non-Linear Financial Systems (Capital Allocators, EP.61)
Nov 25, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Albert Bridge Excludes Miners, Energy, and Banks From Its Portfolio
“We eliminate about half those, the ones that are more top-down in nature. So there's never any miners or EMP companies or banks even in the portfolio.”
Drew Dickson Nov 25, 2019 ▶ 22:56 Drew Dickson – Blending Behavior and Fundamentals at Albert Bridge Capital (First Meeting, EP.13)
Jan 6, 2020 neutral
Opinion
Banks During the 2008 Crisis Were Not Out to Screw Homeowners
“Most people assume that the banks were out to screw the homeowners. And I don't think that's the case. I'm not saying they're not blameless.”
Gregory Zuckerman Jan 6, 2020 ▶ 9:51 Gregory Zuckerman – Decoding Renaissance Medallion (Capital Allocators, EP.119)
Aug 3, 2020 bearish
Opinion
Granade: Fintech disruptors struggle economically without incumbent bank advantages
“Mostly what those companies are is they have a tech advantage, but they don't have access to customer advantage, and they don't have any sort of cost of capital advantage like a bank does and things like that, and so they've built technologies that people like…”
Matthew Granade Aug 3, 2020 ▶ 37:58 Matthew Granade – Inside Data Science at Point72 (First Meeting, EP.22)
Apr 21, 2022 neutral
Insight
Bank loan portfolio decisions are driven entirely by regulatory pressures
“Banks in particular make decisions about their portfolio for three reasons. Regulatory, regulatory, and regulatory. Because banks are regulated industries. As a regulated industry, they are very focused on how they deal with their regulator and the bank examin…”
Andrew Milgram Apr 21, 2022 ▶ 19:29 Andrew Milgram – Mid-Market Distressed Investing at Marblegate (Manager Meetings EP.29)
Jun 20, 2022 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Forman: Banks, fintechs, and institutions will be DeFi's largest consumers
“And the largest consumers of DeFi will be banks, will be fintech companies, and will be institutions.”
Ben Forman Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 36:47 Ben Forman – Opportunities in DeFi (EP.256, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.03)
Jul 18, 2022 negative
Insight
Giannini: Concentration risk is dangerous when driven by single-factor commodity exposures
“I think where you worry about concentration in an industry is where there is one thing that happens. So if I'm concentrated in banks, well, they rise or fall kind of at the same time. If I'm in, natural resources was a big thing. Everyone was in oil and gas fo…”
Mario Giannini Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 22:58 Mario Giannini – View from the Top of Private Equity at Hamilton Lane (Capital Allocators, EP.262)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Insight
Friedman: Private credit makes the financial system safer than before 2008
“The nice thing in the private markets right now is you don't have as many critical players in terms of being in a position To take down the economy or threaten the liquidity of the whole financial system. As long as the banks are forced into a more conservativ…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 35:47 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022
Insight
Friedman: Financial crises are always caused by leverage and liquidity mismatch
“The entire history of the financial world is one of crises that are born of exactly what you say, where you have a combination of illiquid assets held by a firm that has liquid liabilities, like a bank, and is leveraged. So leveraged and a mismatch is always t…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 38:57 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Sep 12, 2022 positive
Insight
Lippmann: Bank regulations create forced, non-economic debt selling
“There's lots of situations where people are doing things for non-economic reasons. They're saying, hey, if I don't sell this aged inventory, I'm going to get a huge penalty. So it's cheaper for me to sell it cheap today than to get this huge internal penalty, …”
Greg Lippmann Sep 12, 2022 ▶ 33:04 Greg Lippmann – The Big Short and Structured Credit at LibreMax (Capital Allocators, EP.270)
Sep 19, 2022 bearish
Opinion
Barth: JGB market distortions will cause systemic issues for banks
“There aren't any JGBs left to own. The markets effectively become completely privatized, and that's going to have some real systematic issues, particularly as it relates to banks.”
Brett Barth Sep 19, 2022 ▶ 37:47 Friends Reunion 2 – Five Allocators Riff on Investing with Meredith Jenkins, Casey Whalen, Brett Barth, Jon Harris, and Ted Seides (Capital Allocators, EP.271)
Dec 5, 2022 positive
Insight
Khajuria: Early PE movers in insurance and banking gained lasting edge
“The firms that looked at insurance, banks, ahead of everybody else have found that most folks at the similar scale have copied them since. And that tells you something. They had an edge. They had an advantage. It was proprietary. They had an idea. At the time …”
Sachin Khajuria Dec 5, 2022 ▶ 30:52 Sachin Khajuria – Two and Twenty, An Insider's Take on Private Equity (Capital Allocators, EP.285)
Feb 9, 2023
Assertion Supported
Philpot: Bank share of agricultural real estate debt dropped from 40% to 30%
“15 years ago, 40% of the loans in agriculture, real estate were held by banks. We're down to about 30% now, and we continue to drop.”
Brian Philpot Feb 9, 2023 ▶ 7:51 Brian Philpot – Financing Farmers at AgAmerica (Capital Allocators, EP. 296)
Feb 27, 2023 negative
Opinion
Kayden: Venture debt is a disastrous idea for startups during downturns
“I philosophically think that debt on any venture company is a disastrous idea, particularly in times like this, because the banks are not going to be patient.”
Joelle Kayden Feb 27, 2023 ▶ 36:29 Venture Capital Panel – Beezer Clarkson, Chris Douvos, and Joelle Kayden (Capital Allocators, EP.299)
May 15, 2023 bearish
Prediction Held up
Lasry: Bank lending pullback will last 1 to 3 years
“However, the fact that they're not lending and banks aren't lending, that's going to be a year or two years, or maybe even three years.”
Marc Lasry May 15, 2023 ▶ 48:16 Marc Lasry – Avenues of Opportunity (Capital Allocators, EP.315)
Jun 19, 2023 positive
Insight
Resnick: Tight Debt Markets Benefit Scaled Private Equity Firms Over Competitors
“When banks have to tighten up on their lending requirements and reduce their balance sheets to our sector, we're going to be at or near the top of the list of who they're going to lend to. And I think that's a logical reaction for banks to have to tighten in a…”
Eric Resnick Jun 19, 2023 ▶ 51:33 Eric Resnick – Ski, Golf, and Vacation Investing at KSL (EP.322)
Jul 3, 2023 bearish
Disclosure
Collins: Seawolf Historically Shorted Banks for 15 to 20 Years
“And as long as I've been an investor and doing banks, I've hated banks, and there's been a lot of bad management teams, and so we historically, for 1520 years, had been short banks along other parts of financial services.”
Porter Collins Jul 3, 2023 ▶ 27:50 Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
Jul 3, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Collins: Ares Management is a vastly superior underwriter compared to commercial banks
“Aries just simply, they're way better underwriters than any bank out there, and they have much more flexibility, they have everything you want, and the banks are just in cement shoes.”
Porter Collins Jul 3, 2023 ▶ 39:28 Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
Oct 9, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Sawtell-Rickson: Private credit investors are overpaid for risk amid bank retreat
“And probably, to be honest, we think we're being overpaid for the risk we're taking in the current environment of scarcity as banks are pulling back.”
Sonya Sawtell-Rickson Oct 9, 2023 ▶ 39:50 Sonya Sawtell-Rickson – Total Portfolio Approach at Australian Superannuation HESTA (EP.342)
Nov 9, 2023 negative
Opinion
Martell: Distressed borrowers often exploit relationship leniency from banks
“I think borrowers many times will abuse that relationship with their banks.”
Ted Martell Nov 9, 2023 ▶ 22:23 Ted Martell – Empty Rooms: Commercial Real Estate Non-Performing Loans in NYC at Maverick Real Estate (EP.349)
Mar 25, 2024 negative
Insight
Masters: Unsecured lending alone cannot generate acceptable return on equity
“If a client is very concentrated in a single product line and that being unsecured lending, for example, very hard to achieve the return on equity that is appropriate To not destroy shareholder value at a bank. And that was true then. And it's true multiple fo…”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 20:26 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
Mar 25, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Masters: Acquisitive banks suffer from massive legacy tech debt and cost inflation
“All banks that have grown via acquisitions have legacy tech debt problems that are significant, and very often those derive from not taking the tough decisions sooner, and then you just create a sort of spaghetti junction, string and sellotape, hold the whole …”
Blythe Masters Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 26:09 Blythe Masters - Fintech Innovation at Motive Partners (EP.376)
Apr 7, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Marks: Private credit grew over 6x to $1.5T since 2007
“The banks were chastened, lost some of their capital, were more tightly regulated, We're discouraged from risk taking, and that led in 2011 or 12 to the creation of the private credit market, which is now over a trillion and a half. In oh seven, I think it was…”
Howard Marks Apr 7, 2025 ▶ 16:43 Howard Marks – Navigating Private Credit (EP.439)
May 26, 2025 bearish
Prediction Held up
Direct lending returns will likely fall 200 basis points as banks re-enter
“As that market continues to evolve, and as the banks start to get back into some of these areas, we do think returns are going to come down. Probably by about 200 basis points on average.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 24:20 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Dec 22, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Seides: Private Credit Structures Prevent a Bank-Like Systemic Calamity
“I do not think there's going to be some calamity. The structure that the asset managers are using is just much better than what the banks used to use. You know, borrow short, lend long. So these are very long dated structures, which is great. You can work thro…”
Ted Seides Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 17:21 Year in Review 2025 (EP.478)
Jan 12, 2026 positive
Opinion
Monk: Large Asset Owners Are the World's Most Important Organizations
“They have quietly become the most important organizations in the world, and I don't put a caveat on that one. They are the cornerstone of our modern social welfare state. They are integrated into so much policymaking from Saudi Arabia to United States to Austr…”
Ashby Monk Jan 12, 2026 ▶ 7:15 Ashby Monk – Total Portfolio Approach and the Future of Asset Owners (EP.480)
Jan 19, 2026
Disclosure
Kleinman: Apollo bought tens of billions in discounted bank debt during GFC
“We were able to approach banks and buy tens of billions of bank debt at a time at deeply discounted prices. We started accumulating enormous amounts of corporate debt.”
Scott Kleinman Jan 19, 2026 ▶ 16:53 Scott Kleinman – Apollo's Integrated Alternatives Platform (EP.481)
Feb 5, 2026
Assertion Supported
O'Connor: Australian credit expanded at 10% annually into the 2000s
“Interestingly, credit growth in Australia was growing at 10% per annum and hadn't been less than 10% for many, many years. And so you had this huge growth in leverage coming into the household sector that drove the profits of the banks.”
Brendan O'Connor Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 9:41 Brendan O'Connor – Alpha Opportunities in Australia at Regal Partners (EP.485)
Feb 16, 2026 neutral
Insight
Jain: Post-GFC risk migrated from banks to private credit, prop shops, and multi-strats
“There's two clear industries that have moved from the banks to the private sector. One is the private credit industry is effectively taking what the banks are doing and doing that off asset manager balance sheets. One is the market making industry, taking what…”
Bobby Jain Feb 16, 2026 ▶ 16:12 Bobby Jain – Multi-Strategy Hedge Fund First Principles at Jain Global (EP.487)
Jun 15, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wang: Hospitality investment will surge as banks force troubled asset resolutions
“So I think there's going to be great buying opportunities, but we're finally starting to see, which is exciting, is it banks are starting to make people deal with problems or sellers are now capitulating a bit. There's going to be a much more active investment…”
Jonathan Wang Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 40:23 Hotel Investing at EOS – Jonathan Wang (EP.506)
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