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Alex Sloane & Matt Perelman – Buy-and-Build Playbook in the Core Economy at GSP (EP.499)
- ▶ 8:05 Alex Sloane I was at Apollo. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 14:42 Matt Perelman Surely Catterton and Apollo, our former employers, would be even more interested in hiring us because we've operated and weren't from the experiences and the failure.
- ▶ 16:07 Alex Sloane And it's people like Josh Kushner from Thrive and Alex Taubman from Long Lake and Reed Raymond at Apollo and Brian Feinstein at Bessemer.
- ▶ 1:05:15 Alex Sloane Mark was one of the very early partners at Apollo, one of the first employees there, and was a senior partner there. 2 times in the scene
Kieran Goodwin – Private Credit Concerns (EP.494)
- ▶ 26:31 Kieran Goodwin Apollo came out, we're going to mark every month.
- ▶ 29:43 Kieran Goodwin Obviously, there's delay here as well because they marked by quarter, which is Apollo trying to do.
Jonathan Lewinsohn – Credit Microcycles at Diameter (EP.484)
- ▶ 1:09:03 Jonathan Lewinsohn I was at a credit conference for Apollo last year, and I think on the stage it said they managed four hundred and fifty billion, right? 3 times in the scene
Lane MacDonald – Teamwork, Alignment, and Investing at the Highest Levels at SCS (EP.483)
- ▶ 56:20 Lane MacDonald The big Apollos, Blackstones, Goldman's, those are machines.
Scott Kleinman – Apollo's Integrated Alternatives Platform (EP.481)
- ▶ 0:11 Scott Kleinman We were able to approach banks and buy tens of billions of bank debt at a time at deeply discounted prices. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 1:02 Ted Seides My guest on today's show is Scott Kleinman, co-president of Apollo Asset Management. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:37 Ted Seides Why don't you take me back to your background and what led you to come to Apollo? 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:24 Ted Seides What was Apollo like when you joined? 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 9:47 Ted Seides What was the next iteration from that boutique strategy with 13 people to whatever the next important leg in the stool was for Apollo? 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 11:45 Ted Seides Was there a deal that you remember and hold out as notable in some way for both your career and what transpired at Apollo? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:17 Ted Seides In your first decade in Apollo, what were the skill sets that allowed you to succeed? 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 14:30 Ted Seides The culture of the firm at the time, it sounds like there may have been a disconnect from your experience, and as you said, the brusque reputation on the outside. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:19 Scott Kleinman Either good valuations or in distress situations where you could buy amazing companies, companies that Apollo never could have acquired at unbelievable valuations. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:43 Scott Kleinman At the end of the day, it's a spread lending business, and Apollo happened to be really good spread lenders. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 20:45 Scott Kleinman That was right down the sweet spot, right down the fairway for Apollo. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 30:06 Scott Kleinman But if we don't have a home on the Apollo balance sheet that thinks that's an interesting risk return, I'm not going to go out and raise that money because that may be right for the asset management business, but that's not right for what…
- ▶ 31:27 Scott Kleinman If you looked at our entire footprint at the time, we had virtually no high yield on the Apollo platform. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 33:39 Ted Seides At what point in time did you leading the teams at Apollo and working on all these strategic initiatives compared to the day-to-day dealmaking? 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 40:47 Scott Kleinman One of the things Apollo has always done well, and this goes back to the days when we were a small group sitting around an investment committee table, we made a big deal about focusing on the deals that go wrong. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 44:07 Scott Kleinman The Apollo stock is an amazing tool to do that. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 49:11 Ted Seides As you think strategically about the business, about growth, how do you consider your competitors, even if you're just thinking of the competitors as the other large alternative asset managers, in where you take the direction of Apollo?
- ▶ 54:44 Scott Kleinman When I talk about the Apollo culture, it starts with, we are an investor's investor.
- ▶ 56:05 Scott Kleinman We're seven hundred fifty billion of credit. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 1:00:56 Scott Kleinman This is something Apollo and I feel passionate about. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 1:11:37 Ted Seides Scott, thanks so much for sharing this incredible success story, both your journey and Apollo's.
Josh Wolfe & Brett McGurk – Venture, Geopolitics, and the Next Frontier (EP.476)
- ▶ 8:39 Josh Wolfe They will take a page from the playbook of Apollo, Blackstone, Carlisle, TPG, KKR, all of whom went public during the 2009 to 2014 period.
Michael Kelly – Democratizing Access to the Middle Market at Future Standard (EP.473)
- ▶ 50:28 Mike Kelly But I think it's tremendous that individual investors now get access to the likes of Blackstone and KKR and Aries and Apollo.
Jeff Aronson – Building Centerbridge Across the Capital Structure (EP.468)
- ▶ 47:06 unnamed speaker The same way that Apollo or Blackstone or KKR may not necessarily look at a mid-cap investment size because it doesn't do it for them.
Ted on Alt Goes Mainstream (EP.458)
- ▶ 11:12 Ted Seides You're not going to find a lot of people that don't know what they're doing at an Apollo or a Blackstone or a KKR.
- ▶ 28:52 Ted Seides Like Apollo says over and over, price matters. 3 times in the scene
Kipp deVeer – Scaling for Private Wealth Globally in Credit (Private Wealth 5, EP.449)
- ▶ 19:01 Kipp deVeer I think there are a lot of folks that are sitting around with whatever their investable assets are, three to ten million dollars, and they're saying, all I read about is KKR and Apollo and Aries and Blackstone.
Michael Sidgmore – Alternatives Go Mainstream (Private Wealth 1, EP.443)
- ▶ 20:39 Michael Sidgmore Blue Owl, hundreds of people, KKR, Apollo, hundreds of people to serve the Wealth Channel.
- ▶ 25:39 Michael Sidgmore They can invest in Blackstone, they can invest in Apollo, Blue Owl, KKR, et cetera.
- ▶ 35:55 Michael Sidgmore And if you take what everyone from Blackstone, which has said, 20 trillion dollar market to Aries, 30 trillion dollar market to Apollo, 40 trillion dollar market.
Ian Charles - Private Equity's New Rules (EP.431)
- ▶ 15:23 Ian Charles Aries, Apollo, Blackstone, KKRA, it's the biggest of the big.
Year in Review 2024 (EP.424)
- ▶ 11:34 Ted Seides It started with Apollo buying Athene, and more and more you see the insurance liability base matches really well with credit with some incremental yield, and it's an extremely low cost of capital for the managers.
Training Grounds: Wellington Management – Jean Hynes (EP.423)
- ▶ 5:43 Ted Seides Before we get going, I was walking down the street and saw my friend Brian Furtado, the head of the family office practice at Apollo, on the other side of the street with a handful of shopping bags.
Eric Peters - Paradigm Shifts and Solutions at One River (EP.422)
- ▶ 5:24 Ted Seides Before we get going, I was walking down the street and saw my friend Brian Furtado, the head of the family office practice at Apollo, on the other side of the street with a handful of shopping bags.
Ben Hunt - The Stories that Drive Markets (EP.393)
Michael Milken – Innovations in Finance, Medicine, and Education (EP.371)
- ▶ 5:07 Ted Seides Approximately 70 investment firms are headed by leaders who worked for Mike, including founders and leaders at Apollo, Ares, Blackstone, Canyon, Cerberus, Crescent, Golden Tree, and
- ▶ 27:55 Ted Seides And if I just run off the founders of Apollo, Aries, Blackstone, Canyon, Crescent, Mollus, Richard Handler, CEO of Jeffries, David Solomon at Goldman Sachs.
Allison Thacker – Different Perspectives and Different Assets at Rice University (EP.348)
- ▶ 59:18 Allison Thacker Let's say that Apollo told me that. 2 times in the scene
Stan Miranda – Modern Endowment Model at Partners Capital (EP.334)
- ▶ 40:26 Stan Miranda The private equity owner can be a more value added owner than a huge Apollo Blackstone, even Bank Capital today and CBC.
Sachin Khajuria and Brendan Ballou – Private Equity: Profit or Plunder? (EP.331)
- ▶ 4:29 Ted Seides On one side is Sachin Kajuria, a former partner at Apollo and twenty-five-year veteran of the industry who recently authored Two in 20.
Ted Seides – The Art of the Interview (EP.330)
- ▶ 2:10 Ted Seides After our recent podcast conversation, Matt Reitfelder, partner and global head of human capital at Apollo, asked me if he could turn the tables and, in his words, interview the interviewer about interviewing.
Kipp deVeer – The World of Private Credit at Ares (EP.329)
- ▶ 15:46 Kipp deVeer But when we got there, they started originally two partners spun out of Apollo, right? 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 23:09 Kipp deVeer So we bought Apollo's real estate business, gosh, in 2006, after, um, the Max were leaving and that was kind of coming apart.
- ▶ 47:46 unnamed speaker It's Blue Owl, it's Golub Capital, it's KKR, Blackstone, Sixth Street, HPS, Apollo.
- ▶ 1:02:00 Kipp deVeer If something happens to Blackstone or Apollo or KKR, we're going to get the same question.
Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
- ▶ 45:21 Porter Collins We haven't looked, but I think the world is very, very different these days, and I think a lot of people are going to an Aries and Apollo and stuff like that, and that's where the job market is, and I think people really are looking at the…
Matt Breitfelder – Optimizing Investment Performance through Human Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.323)
- ▶ 4:25 Ted Seides My guest on today's show is Matt Breitfelder, a partner and global head of human capital at Apollo Global Management, where he focuses on attracting and developing extraordinary talent and creating an innovative, high-performance culture. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 44:13 Ted Seides What was the impetus for you of moving from BlackRock to Apollo? 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 50:39 Matt Breitfelder And we love that at Apollo.
- ▶ 52:29 Ted Seides What tools do you think a leader of one of those organizations can use effectively that may not have the breadth of resources or the depth of team that you see at an Apollo or BlackRock?
- ▶ 1:00:32 Matt Breitfelder I'm trained well at Apollo.
Eric Resnick – Ski, Golf, and Vacation Investing at KSL (EP.322)
- ▶ 8:21 Eric Resnick I was basically the financial analyst who, Apollo was our owner, and it was a privately held business at the time. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:36 Eric Resnick So in 1992, Apollo bought Vail. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 33:48 Eric Resnick If you are at Blackstone and you're looking at a large multi-billion dollar deal, my guess is they could predict that KKR or Apollo or Bain or Carlisle are looking at that same deal at some level.
Aaron Sack – Branded Middle Market Investing at Morgan Stanley (Capital Allocators, EP.311)
- ▶ 10:21 Aaron Sack I went to work for Apollo for some former Goldman folks, and then another guy named Art Penn, whom I admire very deeply, who now runs a credit investment firm called Penn & Park.
- ▶ 13:16 Aaron Sack This is a firm, and I can say this now having worked at Goldman, Apollo, and other places.
- ▶ 35:41 Aaron Sack It's Art Penn, who runs Pennant Park, and formerly ran Apollo's BDC, and the reason for that is not so much pure business, but more, you can be very successful, do really well, and be incredibly ethical, and fair, and principled, and nice,…
Mario Giannini & John Toomey – Private Equity Panel (Capital Allocators EP.309)
- ▶ 5:13 Ted Seides It's a discussion of Apollo's purchase of Yahoo a year and a half ago. 3 times in the scene
David Abrams – Sports Ecosystem Investing at Velocity (Capital Allocators, EP. 303)
- ▶ 1:09 Ted Seides Our conversation covers David's background, long experience in distressed investing on Wall Street and at Apollo, and personal investments in
- ▶ 2:33 David Abrams And a firm I eventually went to work for Apollo came out of Drexel, and their business was buying up the assets that they had been the investment bank for that actually raised the money and issued all the junk bonds. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:58 David Abrams And a year later, I took my entire business to Apollo, which was transformational, but I was in the right place at the right time. 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 17:53 Ted Seides What was the impetus for the next step in your career after Apollo? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 26:34 David Abrams So obviously through my time at Apollo and at Penn, Josh Harris is someone I'm
- ▶ 30:44 David Abrams Maybe if you're on your fund 11, you get discretion to do lots of different things, but I'd learn from my experience building a business and running it at Apollo that focus is probably the number one
- ▶ 52:14 David Abrams And I do recall when Bennett Goodman and Doug Ostrover and Trip Smith set up GSO, I did have the chance to go work there when I was in Europe and decided not to, ultimately went up at Apollo.
Sachin Khajuria – Two and Twenty, An Insider's Take on Private Equity (Capital Allocators, EP.285)
- ▶ 4:06 Ted Seides My guest on today's show is Sachin Kajuria, a former partner at Apollo and twenty-five-year veteran of private equity who recently authored Two in 20, a fantastic insider's account of the private equity industry.
- ▶ 5:30 Sachin Khajuria So I'm an investor, 25 years as a partner at Apollo.
- ▶ 15:12 Sachin Khajuria You had TPG, you had KKR, you had Apollo, you have Blackstone, you have so many amazing firms.
Michael Rees – Inside GP Stakes at Dyal Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.278)
- ▶ 37:57 Michael Rees Yeah, we have a chart that shows the average multiple of the public companies, the Blackstones, Apollos, KKRs, and it's like a mountain peak.
Matt Brown – Tidal Wave of Capital for Alternatives from Retail (Capital Allocators, EP.272)
- ▶ 15:32 Matt Brown Secondly, the sophistication in the product innovation that these large asset management firms are working on, whether it's an Apollo or Franklin Templeton, a Hamilton Lane, Blackstone, of course, comes to mind and others.
- ▶ 18:34 Matt Brown The Blackstones, the Apollos, the Aries, all these firms see the high stakes game of capturing that wealth, and they're going to compete for it and be the brand.
- ▶ 26:53 Matt Brown Apollo also announced one.
- ▶ 30:38 Ted Seides Apollo, Motive, Hamilton Lane, Eldridge was an early investor.
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- ▶ 44:46 Pete Stavros You could try and go convince one by one, do something different, whether that's for climate or labor or what have you, or in a more concentrated way, could you convince Blackstone, Carlyle, TPG, Apollo, Aries, Warburg, Pincus,
Christopher Zook – Thematic Investing and Raving Fans at CAZ Investments (Capital Allocators, EP.226)
- ▶ 25:45 Ted Seides Public company stocks, Blackstone, Apollo, Carlisle, the set of them that are available now in the public markets.
Ian Charles & Doc O'Connor – Investing in Sports Teams at Arctos Sports Partners (Capital Allocators, EP.225)
- ▶ 23:03 Ian Charles Names like Qualtrics, Microsoft, TIBCO, Blackstone, Appaloosa, Apollo, Fortress, Aries, Bain, really sophisticated people.
Stefan Kaluzny – Sycamore Partners [Manager Meetings, EP.16]
- ▶ 51:54 Stefan Kaluzny But other successful investors look to Apollo and others have done that very, very well and grown their platforms that way, and I think Sycamore can do that and can do that very, very effectively.
Barry Sternlicht – Masterclass in Real Estate in a Post-COVID World (Capital Allocators, EP.216)
- ▶ 21:54 Barry Sternlicht So they then following us was Apollo's one, and Blackstone did one, and Colony did one, and
Max Frumes and Sujeet Indap –Inside the Sausage Factory of the Caesar's Restructuring (Capital Allocators, EP.209)
- ▶ 4:32 Ted Seides We walk through the intricacies, tensions, and dynamics of the Caesars bankruptcy, whose stakeholders included Apollo, TPG, GSO, Elliott, Silverpointe, Oaktree, and Appaloosa,
- ▶ 13:25 Sujit Indap And at the same time, in the financial world or on Wall Street, you've got this industry private equity, which is coming into its own as a major player, not just for small broken companies, which was its heritage, but rather these funds… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 17:28 Ted Seides So the business isn't doing well and you have Apollo and TPG who own the equity and obviously have a set of incentives to keep things going. 8 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:55 Ted Seides We know we have Apollo and TPG moving some assets around. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 28:09 Ted Seides You're going to have the equity holders, Apollo and TPG saying, hey, there were no covenants.
- ▶ 29:09 Max Frumes The Apollo and TPG, meanwhile, lock up just one tranche of creditors. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 32:03 Ted Seides We got Apollo and TPG. 9 times in the scene
- ▶ 36:50 Ted Seides You've got Apollo, TPG on one side.
- ▶ 40:01 Max Frumes Just 10 cents apart between Apollo's offer to the second liens and what the second liens actually want. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 45:45 Sujit Indap People realized that after this deal, Apollo raises a twenty-five billion dollar fund, and the LP community didn't really penalize them, and maybe if they can face modest consequences for what was apparently aggressive 2 times in the scene
Wylie Fernyhough – Private Equity Stakes (Capital Allocators, EP.208)
- ▶ 5:38 Wylie Fernyhough You saw about a decade later, AIG bought a stake in Blackstone, and following that, we saw CalPERS and some sovereign wealth funds buy stakes in Apollo, Silver Lake, Carlisle, in that 2006 to oh eight time frame. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 34:04 Wylie Fernyhough The US, so talking Blackstone, Blue Owl, KKR, Apollo, their market cap is somewhere in the two hundred and fifty billion dollar range.
Private Equity Masters 6 – Doug Ostrover – Blue Owl Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.205)
- ▶ 17:27 Doug Ostrover But as I think about the culture we were trying to create, I think we saw an opportunity to create a culture that we could give people, our investors, the same experience, the investment experience as a Blackstone, a KKR, a Carlyle,…
Private Equity Masters 4: David Rubenstein – Carlyle Group (Capital Allocators, EP.203)
- ▶ 18:09 David Rubenstein Blackstone, KKR, Apollo, among others are all, have multiple funds out there.
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