alpha
53 statements across 42 episodes · 18 bullish · 16 bearish · 38 people on the record · first statement Apr 13, 2017 by Andre Perold · across every show →
Everything said about alpha, oldest first
Apr 13, 2017
Apr 13, 2017 negative
Perold: Generating high alpha for low management fees is a complete misnomer
“For the kinds of skill we're looking for, you need talent, and talent is expensive, so the idea that you can generate high alpha for low fees, I think, is a complete misnomer. Very hard to do... But when you find true talent, you gotta pay them, and I think yo…”
Apr 13, 2017
Perold: The manager selection versus asset allocation debate is a false dichotomy
“I think there's a bit of a false dichotomy that people draw between what's more important, manager selection or asset allocation. So let me first say, if you're selecting managers who can't outperform. That's a problem. Then it's a problem. You should just ind…”
May 2, 2017 neutral
O'Shaughnessy: Alpha in financial markets depends strictly on relative skill
“Really all that matters in markets is relative skill. That if you've got, you know, 10 PhDs in a room, maybe 3040 years ago, that meant you were going to earn enormous alpha. But now everyone has those 10 PhDs, and they're fighting against each other. It's a r…”
May 17, 2017 bearish
Jul 17, 2017 bullish
Blitz: Real estate offers high alpha due to limited security-level scrutiny
“A sector like real estate is sort of a boring sector, right? There's not that many people who are looking security by security and saying, you know, here's the characteristics of REIT A versus REIT B, right? It's not a particularly exciting area, but it's one …”
Jan 8, 2018 bearish
Mauboussin: Standard Deviation Of Active Manager Alpha Has Narrowed Over Time
“So one of the ways to quantify that as we measure the standard deviation of excess returns, the standard deviation of alpha, right? So you imagine alpha plotted as a bell shaped distribution, which is roughly not a horrible way to look at it. And that bell has…”
Sep 3, 2018 neutral
Williamson: Big investors profit from corporate value growth over alpha extraction
“Increasingly, particularly big investors recognize that the money that they're going to make is not necessarily by harvesting alpha and beating the other guy. It's by having economic value of those companies actually grow and generate revenues and innovation a…”
Oct 22, 2018 bearish
Capital saturation and copycat fund spinoffs have severely compressed active alpha
“It dwarfed what we expected by a factor of five. And so, it's really hard to create a lot of active alpha when there's that much money in the space, and when a lot of the similar approaches, we're now almost on third generation, meaning, like, some of the earl…”
Nov 26, 2018 negative
Baumgartner: Inflows to investment strategies simultaneously lower returns and increase risk
“I do think that edge goes away, and people figure things out, and money piles into strategies, and when capital flows in anywhere, it wrecks. Not just future returns, but the risks go up as well. So getting dinged twice, you're getting a lower expected return,…”
Feb 11, 2019 bearish
May 6, 2019 positive
Long-lockup illiquid assets offer rich and repeatable alpha
“So when we think at the very top, we're thinking about illiquid assets, 10 to 12 year lockups, and that's a big, thick icing on the top. There's lots of alpha there. Lots of manager value added because it's an illiquid market. It's idiosyncratic. It takes spec…”
May 13, 2019 positive
Jun 10, 2019
Jun 10, 2019 bullish
Jun 24, 2019 positive
Whittaker: Social factors in ESG are an undiscovered source of alpha
“So, so I think the S of the ESG and the human element, let's call it, that we're picking up, is probably one of the most undiscovered sources of alpha. And when we do our factor analysis, one of the greatest contributors to the outperformance that we see.”
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Feb 3, 2020 negative
Feb 3, 2020
Kraus: Alpha was easier to generate in the 1980s and 1990s
“And back at that time, Alpha was obviously easier to earn, fewer competitors, much smaller amounts of assets. You know, hedge funds in the eighties and early nineties were, some were large, some might have been multiple billions, but most were less than a bill…”
Feb 17, 2020 positive
Alpha comes from tedious trading that larger funds cannot execute
“Our logic, again, is that if we are doing things that other people are unwilling to do or unable to do, unwilling because it's tedious and boring, unable because of capacity issues, and we can do that, that should be where alpha is. I mean, that should be what…”
Feb 24, 2020 neutral
Mar 23, 2020 positive
Mauboussin: High market return dispersion reveals true active manager skill
“What we have shown is that it's very clear that the standard deviation of alpha is Is greatest following periods of high dispersion. So that's saying that high dispersion allows, the tide goes out, you know, who's wearing a swimsuit. High dispersion, that allo…”
Jul 20, 2020 negative
Trading algorithms and backtests without economic theory produce spurious correlations
“My biggest investment pet peeve is probably an over-reliance on trading algorithms and back tests that lack a foundation in underlying theory. Probably comes back to my academic roots. But while I believe big data is absolutely part of the answer, and there's …”
Sep 21, 2020 positive
Success ratios between 50% and 60% prove skill is statistically persistent
“If you begin to see that the individual not only Consistently delivers alpha, but their success ratio is consistently between 50 and 60%, so they're consistently getting it more right than wrong. There's a skew in there, and then you can look at how that works…”
Sep 28, 2020
Sep 28, 2020 neutral
Ellis: Allocators consistently accept paying 25% to 30% of generated alpha
“I think the proportion of alpha that clients are happy to leave with a manager Has not really changed over years. You know, you can debate, and maybe it's something to do with the quality of the returns, some number between 25 and 30% of alpha that clients are…”
Oct 19, 2020 neutral
Dec 21, 2020
Perold: Alpha is scarce, transient, and quickly competed away
“I've always said, and I still believe that alpha is scarce, and it's transient. It doesn't stick around for very long because it gets competed away. And so you always have to skate to where the puck is going, knowing that it's not going to stay long in any one…”
Mar 15, 2021 positive
Ginns: The Wall Street Journal is the most underrated source of alpha
“I think the journal is the most underrated source of context and alpha in like any asset class that you're investing in. Everyone assumes it's information that's already out there, so you're not going to get much value from it, and the reality is most people, …”
Apr 12, 2021
Aug 26, 2021 bullish
Rieder: Real alpha in fixed income will come from bespoke structured originations
“I think where a lot of the real alpha is going to be going forward. It's bespoke investments where you functionally create the investment, whether it's in the commercial real estate or resi or a European asset finance. The term loan to an aircraft producer. Th…”
Sep 20, 2021 neutral
Sep 20, 2021
Ellis: Alpha generation requires a repeatable process rather than style drifting
“You have to have a repeatable process. It doesn't happen that one day you're a growth investor and the next day you're a value investor, that you're a bit of macro and then you're a bit of bottom up and you're, I don't believe in that.”
Sep 20, 2021 negative
Ellis: Top-down asset allocation to predict alpha added zero value
“We spent an enormous amount of time in conference rooms doing asset allocation meetings, trying to predict where did we think there was going to be alpha next year? Was it going to be an event year where there's going to be more alpha in stock picking in Europ…”
Sep 20, 2021 negative
Sep 20, 2021 negative
Ellis: Strategy alpha degrades non-linearly and collapses off a cliff
“What I experienced in investing in funds is alpha maintains much more than people expect for a certain period of time in a strategy, certain size growth in a strategy. But once it starts to drift off, it collapses and goes negative. And once you fall off the c…”
Jan 10, 2022 bullish
Jun 2, 2022 bullish
Aug 15, 2022
Oct 17, 2022 negative
Griffith: Growing AUM from $1B to $5B turns alpha into beta
“Sometimes the right size is small, and you have to be happy with that. You can't grow beyond where that alpha component is going to be reduced. There are plenty of people who are great at running a billion, but then they end up running five billion, and they s…”
Dec 15, 2022 negative
Aug 14, 2023 negative
Aug 21, 2023 positive
Aug 21, 2023 neutral
Jan 15, 2024 bullish
Jan 29, 2024 positive
Future Fund Generated 2.5% Annual Excess Returns Over 18 Years
“When we break down the returns over the life of the fund, 18 years now, we've added about two and a half percent per annum, which we think is pretty good, and it's actually split, interestingly, only about a half a percent to diversification in the traditional…”
Apr 22, 2024
May 13, 2024 bearish
Sep 9, 2024 bearish
AI will accelerate market efficiency, making alpha harder to generate
“Alpha is going to get harder and harder and harder. It already has gotten harder. AI is going to actually speed up that as well. And so as investors thinking about beta is going to become more and more important over time and having the best beta you possibly …”
Feb 24, 2025 positive
Barth: The most interesting alpha originates from capital scarcity
“And so I think the most interesting alpha today comes from a lack of capital. And that lack of capital can either be because it's unfavored or And that goes to being contrarian. Something's cheap because people hate it. It can be a lack of capital because of a…”
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Zorub: High active share and concentration systematically drive investment alpha
“Strategies that do three things over time really outperform. And those three things are invest with high active share. So you don't, by definition, look like an index. Second, concentrate in your best ideas in recognition of the fact that actually markets are …”
Mar 3, 2025 neutral