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Software’s Epic Comeback, Meta’s AI Layoffs Blunder, South Korea Stock Market Chaos
- ▶ 36:13 Ranjan Roy And I think, like, the way TikTok just destroyed this, I wrote this in 2019, like, TikTok came along and just said, not only are we not going to just add some algorithmic logic to how posts get shown, we're gonna do away with the feed. 6 times in the scene
How The AI Bet Pays Off + AI Lab Strategy Game — With David Cahn
- ▶ 58:58 David Cahn And then we, like, have resulted in, like, you know, Instagram and TikTok and whatever.
Leopold Blows Up, OpenAI Drastically Cuts Prices, Microsoft’s Best Day
- ▶ 55:25 Alex Kantrowitz But if a company can figure out how to like build an AI companion, which I think is going to be even stickier than reels or tick tock, because come on, it's just like, you've, you've built a digital friend.
OpenAI Finally Ships Its Superapp, Meta’s AI Price War, ChatGPT Cheating At Brown
- ▶ 26:11 Alex Kantrowitz Whether that is, you know, copying stories from Snapchat, copying reels from TikTok.
Mythos is Back, OpenAI Releases GPT 5.6, Apple’s Price Increases
- ▶ 11:01 Ranjan Roy Who gets to buy TikTok or what any other decision or how does Stargate roll out or, you know, like all of these things the government and the administration have been pushing.
Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
- ▶ 2:55:17 Mike Krieger I think that is much harder now when you think about how consolidated the top 10 is and how much time spent is spent on like the tech talks and reels of the world.
Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger
- ▶ 35:45 Mike Krieger I think that is much harder now when you think about how consolidated the top 10 is and how much time spent is spent on like the tech talks and reels of the world.
Predicting the SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic IPOs — With Dick Costolo
- ▶ 43:09 Dick Costolo The changes in the way people use TikTok and reels and social media.
Senator Mark Warner: Nobody’s Ready for What AI Could Do To Us
- ▶ 31:16 Alex Kantrowitz Or is this six month deadline, something like we've seen in the past with TikTok, which could just be a six month deadline because we know they need Anthropic that just gets pushed back again and again, which is it? 4 times in the scene
AI’s Unpopularity + Competing With ChatGPT — With Olivia Moore
- ▶ 48:43 Olivia Moore Um, but because the videos were exportable, what would happen is that the best Sora videos would get uploaded onto TikTok or Reels, and then they would compete against the best human-made videos, and so the overall feed experience was just…
Pentagon Insider: What's Next For Anthropic and The Department of War — With Michael Horowitz
- ▶ 40:07 Alex Kantrowitz The TikTok.
Dario’s Choice and Anthropic’s Future, Apple’s AI Devices, Netflix Loses WBD
- ▶ 28:42 Alex Kantrowitz Often it's been around tick tock. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 55:35 M.G. Siegler Um, Disney plus obviously, but like, it's not just and tick tock and which, uh, has, uh, interesting new ownership given this, uh, this paramount structure as well. 2 times in the scene
Is AI Killing Software? — With Bret Taylor, OpenAI's board chair and CEO of Sierra
- ▶ 20:13 Bret Taylor Um, this is largely happening on, like, TikTok and Instagram, uh, and Facebook today.
AI’s Steve Jobs?, Big Tech AI Chaos, 2026 Crystal Ball
- ▶ 51:45 M.G. Siegler And, uh, and TikTok too.
2025 In Review, 2026 Predictions: Meta, NVIDIA, Tesla, OpenAI, Google, Microsoft
- ▶ 10:39 Reed Albergotti Competing more with, with like YouTube and TikTok and, you know, and it's not so much social media anymore.
OpenAI’s 2026 Priority, Disney’s AI Play, Datacenter Buildout Trouble
- ▶ 32:12 Alex Kantrowitz All right, I want to tell you one more thing that I sort of, uh, came, came to, uh, this week, uh, when I opened up Sora again, uh, I don't know if you've been seeing these Sora videos make their way around the internet, but they certainly… 2 times in the scene
Google Pushes OpenAI, Bezos Returns, AI’s No. 1 Hit
- ▶ 59:08 Alex Kantrowitz Yeah, I, I mean, I see it, it's flooding TikTok, though. 2 times in the scene
Can We Trust Silicon Valley With Superintelligence? — With Nick Clegg
- ▶ 21:15 Sir Nick Clegg And to that extent, it's interesting that almost imperceptibly, uh, the meta social media apps are now competing more and more with Tik Tok and YouTube. 2 times in the scene
OpenAI Bailout?, Elon’s $1 Trillion Pay Deal, Amazon Sues Perplexity
- ▶ 16:08 Ranjan Roy Chief Revenue Officer, I believe, who was speaking to a TikToker and accidentally, like, said something about revenue guidance.
OpenAI and Microsoft’s Grand Bargain, Sam Altman’s Next Three Years, A New Humanoid Robot
- ▶ 34:25 Ranjan Roy Then it looks today across and like any meta platform, Facebook, Instagram, or even a tick tock.
OpenAI’s Risky Browser Bet, Amazon’s Mass Automation Plan, Clippy’s Back
- ▶ 21:09 Alex Kantrowitz So sort of big market going after the social media apps like TikTok.
Anthropic Chief Product Officer: Why AI Model Development Is Accelerating
- ▶ 38:08 Mike Krieger And of course, TikTok has a very different take on things.
Sora 2 & AI’s Slop Era, Death Of The Creator Economy?, Apple’s SmartGlasses Roadmap
- ▶ 1:21 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, for those who don't know, Sora II is OpenAI's new video generator, which they've now included in an app called, uh, Sora, which is basically meant to rival TikTok and YouTube. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 26:51 Max Zeff TikTok and Instagram paying out these creators.
OpenAI’s & NVIDIA's $100 Billion Marriage, Meta’s Sloppy Vibes, TikTok Deal Arrives?
- ▶ 0:10 Alex Kantrowitz Meta has a new feed of AI slop, and the TikTok deal is here, seemingly.
- ▶ 0:55 Alex Kantrowitz We'll also talk about this new ChatGPT feature called Pulse, this new feed that Meta has of AI-generated images and video called Vibes, and the fact that we are very close to a TikTok deal that will enable the app to continue to operate in… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 36:42 Ranjan Roy Yeah, that's the moment that all valuations aside, everything else aside, and we're going to get into the TikTok deal itself, but that's the moment when, uh,
- ▶ 45:47 Alex Kantrowitz Think TikTok or Instagram reels, but every single video you come across is essentially AI Slop.
- ▶ 50:40 Alex Kantrowitz Let's talk about TikTok because we are at a place where TikTok is on the verge of selling its U S business or making a deal for its U S business. 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 56:40 Alex Kantrowitz We've talked about, obviously, the massive investment that NVIDIA is making in OpenAI, and then this crazy investment that may or may not be happening, uh, with TikTok.
Revealed: OpenAI Tells Us ChatGPT's Major Use Cases
- ▶ 31:38 Ranjan Roy I don't know, like, ah, if you think about viral apps, could TikTok
- ▶ 51:44 Ranjan Roy It means that we all see clips on Instagram or TikTok and YouTube all day long.
Do We Care About The iPhone Air?, Nepal's Discord Revolution, San Francisco’s 996 Culture
- ▶ 5:24 Ranjan Roy I always get all these, like, TikTok and Instagram ads for these.
Can We Save The Web From AI? — With Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince
- ▶ 46:13 Matthew Prince A lot of that has moved to individual platforms, so more of that on a YouTube, more of that on a Facebook, more of that on a TikTok, um, that, that is there, and I think part of that is because those tools have provided content creators…
Grok's AI Lovebot, Aqui-Hire-Sition Backlash, OpenAI's ChatGPT Agent Debuts
- ▶ 5:26 Alex Kantrowitz And, you know, all they have to do really is slow down the growth of ChatGPT, similar to the way that they did to TikTok with Reels, similar to the way that they did to Snapchat with Stories, and they've served their purpose.
Apple’s Anthropic Flirtation, Can Meta Build Superintelligence?, AI Browser Wars — With M.G. Siegler
- ▶ 29:39 M.G. Siegler You could argue, you know, like in terms of they want to buy Chrome, they, they just, they want to buy tick tock.
$100 Million AI Engineers, Vending Machine Claude, Legend Of Soham
- ▶ 23:05 Alex Kantrowitz And then with tick tock, they built reels.
Is AI Really Taking Our Jobs? — With Noah Smith
- ▶ 27:27 Alex Kantrowitz Is it, I mean, is it also the fact that, like, it's kind of this, like, FOMO culture where we are gonna, we're, you know, we see all, all the activities of the super rich all the time because it's on, you know, TikTok and Instagram, or is…
Sam Altman’s Gentle Singularity, Zuck’s AI Power Play, Burning Of The Waymos
- ▶ 0:47 Ranjan Roy Waymo's are ablaze and listeners cannot see, but Alex is holding a TikTok style influencer microphone.
Is ChatGPT The Last Website?, Grok’s System Prompt, Meta’s llama Fiasco
- ▶ 27:32 Ranjan Roy Well, I would call it less of a lack of worry and more unfortunately of just a deep rooted cynicism in terms of like, it's not that much worse than a Facebook algorithm or a TikTok algorithm that's been doing the same thing.
Are We at the End of Ai Progress? — With Gary Marcus
- ▶ 46:26 Alex Kantrowitz A worse tick tock.
Is Anthropic’s Claude AI Conscious, Shopping in ChatGPT, Systrom vs. Zuck
- ▶ 1:11 Alex Kantrowitz So by the way, for those tuning in on video, I am in Washington, D.C., so I'm, I got a kind of a funky background here in the hotel, and I'm talking in like a TikToker mic, but we're gonna make it work.
Is OpenAI's o3 Model AGI? Is AI The New Social Media? Zuck's Revealing Testimony
- ▶ 1:28 Alex Kantrowitz I'm reading, and I'm watching the TikToks. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 36:04 Ranjan Roy TikTok to me killed the traditional notion of social media because it became follower based rather than friend based.
- ▶ 43:54 Alex Kantrowitz We don't have to spend too much time on it, uh, because it does feel like both those entities are fighting the last war, that it's like we're gonna argue over a social network where people don't really share anymore, and is, is it under…
Why China's AI Strategy Just Might Work — With Grace Shao
- ▶ 11:13 Alex Kantrowitz And that's clearly what Zuckerberg has done with him copying stories with Snapchat and copying reels, uh, copying TikTok with reels. 2 times in the scene
OpenAI’s Ghibli Moment, CoreWeave's IPO Letdown, End of Silicon Valley’s Monopoly?
- ▶ 48:31 Brian McCullough What we have attempted to do to TikTok, which is to say, we're going to ban Instagram, right? 3 times in the scene
How Amazon Rebuilt Alexa From The Ground Up
- ▶ 21:11 Panos Panay It just changes in the spirit of, by the way, I never knew how long it took to cook a ramen egg, so I'd always have to go to TikTok, open it, spend 20 seconds watching somebody make ramen eggs. 2 times in the scene
The Formula for Capturing Your Attention, Price of Fame, & Algorithms as Editors — With Chris Hayes
- ▶ 1:32 Chris Hayes Like, there are people who do great stuff on TikTok, great stuff on Instagram Reels. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:24 Chris Hayes Like, TikTok exists for no other purpose than to maximize the total amount of seconds of attention in the aggregate it can.
- ▶ 11:00 Alex Kantrowitz I'm not gonna take the platform side here, but I am gonna push back on you, because what you're saying makes a lot of sense, um, in theory, but in reality, the discussion that we just had about how we listen to the audience and how we see… 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 23:19 Chris Hayes Like, you see so much of TikTok is these sort of wars with commenting. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 30:15 Chris Hayes Even TikTok, right? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 43:26 Chris Hayes Like, I have to say, one of the things I like about TikTok, and this is diminishing when you're talking about, like, the sort of death of user-generated content, I've seen that happen to TikTok even over the last three or four years. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 56:49 Chris Hayes I think it was really interesting that the TikTok ban passed nine oh, and that the court's analysis said that because it was totally content independent, which I think is really important, right?
Will Big Tech CEOs Win Their All-In Bet on Trump? With Saagar Enjeti
- ▶ 0:00 Alex Kantrowitz Let's check in on Silicon Valley's Trump embrace, the US-China AI war, Apple products, TikTok, and plenty more with Breaking Points host Sagar Njeti.
Could Your AI Agent Also Be Your Lover? — With Replika CEO Eugenia Kuyda
- ▶ 18:20 Eugenia Kuyda It's only, it only starts to become possible now, uh, because you couldn't build something that would not do to get off TikTok. 2 times in the scene
Why The Costco Guys And Hawk Tuah Took Over The Internet
- ▶ 1:22 Alex Kantrowitz There was the Hawk to a meme, where this woman, Hayley Welch, made, I would say, an X-rated comment on an interview, TikTok, and all of a sudden became an instant celebrity, which is something we'd never seen before, and then you have… 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 13:20 Ranjan Roy Going on to any social network now, and if you call TikTok a social network, Instagram, you can't just post and have something go viral. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:46 Ryan Broderick And I think he used to be a wrestler, and now he's trying to go back into wrestling based off the fame of the TikToks. 2 times in the scene
Bold Predictions For Tech and AI in 2025 — With Casey Newton
- ▶ 30:57 Alex Kantrowitz Maybe we can get to that, but I think the big question for meta is actually about a competitor, which is whether tick tock actually gets banned and there's like varying degrees of confidence. 6 times in the scene
What's the Right Amount of Tech to Give Kids?: A Psychologist and Parent Weigh In
- ▶ 8:28 Alex Kantrowitz I think they've probably moved to tick tock. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 19:39 Alex Kantrowitz The more healthier use is do something interactive, do something creative versus spend time on the YouTubes and the tick tocks.
- ▶ 29:02 Rona Novick Show me how you relate to your friends on whatever it is you're using, Insta, TikTok, whatever.
Is OpenAI’s New “o1” Model The Big Step Forward We’ve Been Waiting For?
- ▶ 55:31 Parmy Olson And then maybe, like, when it comes up in your TikTok feed or Instagram or you find it on a website, you just, you click on it.
Russia Funds Tenet Media YouTubers
- ▶ 15:19 Ranjan Roy I actually, when I was in Taiwan, one of my Uber drivers had 10 phones on the dashboard and I asked him and he said he just scrolls and likes TikTok videos.
OpenAI Raising At $100 Billion Valuation
- ▶ 16:50 Alex Kantrowitz Like TikTok, there's been endless coverage that it could be cutting into Google search itself, and it's become the search engine for Gen Z.
AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel
- ▶ 56:39 Dwarkesh Patel Potentially, but I think it'll honestly be better than what they're currently doing, which is YouTube and TikTok and Twitter, you know, Facebook and so forth.
Yubo Wants To Replace Performative Social Media With Real Time Social Discovery
- ▶ 3:12 Alex Kantrowitz Is it interesting to you that it's sort of trended away from the newsfeed interactions or like posting on people's wall towards a more of a TikTok style feed?
- ▶ 14:27 Alex Kantrowitz And that's why they went through this whole moment to do meaningful social interactions, but they ended up pivoting right back to this TikTok style of media. 2 times in the scene
Why Marissa Mayer Is Betting Big On Consumer Tech
- ▶ 4:12 Alex Kantrowitz And he continues his post and talks about, like, you know, yes, you can do it, like, and gives TikTok as, as an example. 5 times in the scene
Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
- ▶ 41:46 Ryan Broderick Um, I mean, we didn't even really go further into this cause it's so dense, but the reason I was even writing about effective accelerationism this week is because I got sent a tip about a group that was causing trouble on tick tock for my…
The Secrets Of Ray Dalio And His Dot Collector Transparency Software
- ▶ 30:51 Alex Kantrowitz It reminds me of, I don't know if you've seen these TikToks of these, like, you know, fake military camps for men who want to toughen themselves up, and they pay, like, thousands of dollars to be yelled at by, you know, former Marines,… 3 times in the scene
Saagar Enjeti and Marshall Kosloff on Midterms, Trump, Economy, and Ukraine
- ▶ 52:57 Alex Kantrowitz Let's talk, uh, speaking of China, let's talk about TikTok. 10 times in the scene
Facebook Whistleblower Frances Haugen On Product, Competition, And Transparency
- ▶ 6:29 Alex Kantrowitz The one that really seems to be doing quite well right now is TikTok. 12 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:11 Alex Kantrowitz Um, so let's get back to that question, though, about whether we're worse off with, with TikTok dominating. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 22:10 Frances Haugen Like, they're getting all this criticism about things like, you know, ethnic violence, and they're like, they're kind of, you know, taking a card from TikTok, where they're like, you know, at TikTok, if you're not a funny dance, you're… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 35:39 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, one interesting thing you said in the first half, um, that, that caught me by surprise was that TikTok acknowledges its power and Facebook, Facebook doesn't. 4 times in the scene
Jonathan Haidt: Why Social Media Makes Our Society Stupid
- ▶ 27:44 Jonathan Haidt Um, and they won't do anything about it because if they do, if they do keep kids off below 13, then the kids will just go to TikTok.
Ethereum Co-Founder Gavin Wood On What Web3 Is Actually Good For
- ▶ 30:58 Alex Kantrowitz Where I, and it's an interest graph really, and then something like tic tac, my graph doesn't actually matter because the application is looking only at my behavior with the follow as a somewhat of an interesting signal and saying this is… 2 times in the scene
Nas Daily, Sarati, and Caspar Lee On Building A Social Media Following
- ▶ 0:46 unnamed speaker Uh, I got my followers on TikTok first. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 3:12 Alex Kantrowitz YouTube is in direct competition with TikTok. 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 9:54 unnamed speaker When I go on LinkedIn and I see other TikTokers, people on Snapchat, Instagram, that are really using LinkedIn and posting articles and sharing what's going on in the platforms, I automatically have more respect for them because they get…
- ▶ 17:51 Nas Daily (Nuseir Yassin) Not on TikTok.
Andrew Ross Sorkin on Meme Stocks, Bitcoin, SPACs, and Elon Musk
- ▶ 50:50 Andrew Ross Sorkin I mean, if I had said Alex to you, the, if I had just looked at you and said, tick tock.
Andrew Callaghan of All Gas No Brakes Goes Independent
- ▶ 34:52 Andrew Callaghan I'm going to do streaming and like Tik TOK and all that. 2 times in the scene