data center

also referred to as: data centers · datacenters

48 statements across 30 episodes · 13 bullish · 12 bearish · 26 people on the record · first statement Jul 4, 2023 by Bill McDermott · across every show →

Everything said about data center, oldest first

Jul 4, 2023 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
McDermott: Modernizing legacy data centers is a $7 trillion market opportunity
“For example, you know, there's a seven trillion dollar opportunity just in reinventing data centers that have existed in a similar fashion for the last half century.”
Bill McDermott Jul 4, 2023 ▶ 39:56 ServiceNow CEO Bill McDermott on Entrepreneurship, AI, and Automation
Nov 24, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Kantrowitz: Microsoft plans over $100B in GPU and data center CapEx
“It plans to amass 1.8 million GPUs by the end of the year. And it plans to triple its data center capacity, which is already at five gigawatts, roughly what it takes to power all of New York city each day by 27, 20, by 20, 27, it plans to spend more than a hun…”
Alex Kantrowitz Nov 24, 2024 ▶ 43:20 OpenAI Builds A Browser, Microsoft Copilot’s Struggles, Jaguar Rebrand
Mar 19, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
LeCun: Digital superintelligence will not happen within two years
“Whatever you can hear from some of my more adventurous colleagues it's not going to happen within the next two years. There's absolutely no way in hell to, you know, pardon my French. The, you know, the idea that we're going to have, you know, a country of gen…”
Yann LeCun Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 18:32 Why Can't AI Make Its Own Discoveries? — With Yann LeCun
Mar 28, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hendrycks: Russia and China may threaten US data centers over superintelligence progress
“If the US were pulling ahead both Russia and China may have a substantial interest in saying, hey, cut this out. Pulling ahead to develop super intelligence, which could give it a huge advantage and an ability to crush crush them. They'd say, you don't get to …”
Dan Hendrycks Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 49:57 AI's Rising Risks: Hacking, Virology, Loss of Control — With Dan Hendrycks
May 21, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hassabis: Test-time compute and inference will require vast data center capacity
“We're going to need a lot of data centers for serving, and also for inference time compute. Giving, you know, you saw DeepThink today, T.P.P. Pro DeepThink. The more time you give it, the better it will be, and certain tasks, very high value, very difficult ta…”
Demis Hassabis May 21, 2025 ▶ 3:37 DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis + Google Co-Founder Sergey Brin: AGI by 2030?
Jul 28, 2025 bearish
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Morris: US and Rest of World Lack Power for AI Data Centers, Except China
“There is just quite simply not enough power that exists in the United States or around the world or anywhere really apart from China to drive these data center ambitions. It just doesn't exist.”
Stephen Morris Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 34:20 Countdown to GPT-5, OpenAI’s Stargate Sputters, AI Math Wars
Jul 28, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2030
Morris: China Will Power Future AI Data Centers Primarily With Solar
“This for, to a large part, is how China is going to power the future of data centers and AI with solar energy.”
Stephen Morris Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 34:53 Countdown to GPT-5, OpenAI’s Stargate Sputters, AI Math Wars
Aug 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kantrowitz: Big Tech will spend $330 billion this year on capex
“Big Tech is expected to spend three hundred thirty billion this year building largely data centers.”
Alex Kantrowitz Aug 6, 2025 ▶ 51:20 Anthropic’s Potential, AI Video Gets Crazy, Market Bubble Approaching?
Oct 1, 2025 neutral
Insight
Guthrie: Older Air-Cooled Datacenters Cannot Easily Be Retrofitted for Liquid Cooling
“That's a massive technology change. And it does mean that older data centers that are air cooled, you know, they can't just drop in liquid cooling and be effective.”
Scott Guthrie Oct 1, 2025 ▶ 31:56 Microsoft's Cloud & AI Head on the AI Buildout's Risks and ROI — With Scott Guthrie
Oct 1, 2025 positive
Prediction Held up
AI datacenters will undergo a massive shift to liquid cooling by 2027
“Well, I think one of the biggest changes that's happening right now from a data center perspective, and you're seeing this with the latest NVIDIA GPUs, and I think you're going to see this in a more profound way over the next two years is the shift from air-co…”
Scott Guthrie Oct 1, 2025 ▶ 31:12 Microsoft's Cloud & AI Head on the AI Buildout's Risks and ROI — With Scott Guthrie
Oct 1, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Guthrie: Permitting takes longer than construction for US datacenters
“Candidly here in the U S the longest Part of building a data center is getting permitting. It's not actually the construction.”
Scott Guthrie Oct 1, 2025 ▶ 37:06 Microsoft's Cloud & AI Head on the AI Buildout's Risks and ROI — With Scott Guthrie
Nov 17, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Luria: Hyperscalers will buy bankrupt AI data centers for pennies
“So if I'm Microsoft, I know that in two or three years, I probably won't have to do any capex because I'll be able to buy data centers out of bankruptcy for pennies on the dollar.”
Gil Luria Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 55:03 AI Bubble Special Report: Debt, Depreciation, and Losses — With Gil Luria
Nov 17, 2025 positive
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Luria: AI data center technicians earn double and fly on private jets
“If you're an electrician right now, or an HVAC technician, boy are you making bank. You're getting flown on private jets to, and making twice as much money, so you can install a data center.”
Gil Luria Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 57:26 AI Bubble Special Report: Debt, Depreciation, and Losses — With Gil Luria
Dec 18, 2025 positive
Opinion
Altman: Debt Financing to Build AI Data Centers Is Reasonable
“I think we do kind of, we know that if we build infrastructure, we the industry, someone's going to gonna get value out of it, and it's still totally early, I agree with you, but I don't think anyone's still questioning there's not going to gonna be value from…”
Sam Altman Dec 18, 2025 ▶ 41:25 Sam Altman: How OpenAI Wins, ChatGPT’s Future, AI Buildout Logic, IPO in 2026?
Dec 24, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Albergati: Frontier AI models started multi-datacenter distributed training in late 2025
“These data centers were going to get so big that they're going to be, these large frontier models are going to be trained across multiple locations, which we started to see in like the last quarter.”
Reed Albergotti Dec 24, 2025 ▶ 3:08 2025 In Review, 2026 Predictions: Meta, NVIDIA, Tesla, OpenAI, Google, Microsoft
Jan 7, 2026 neutral
Insight
Venturo: Liquid cooling differentiation is in software control, not physical plumbing
“Everybody believes that this, that there's some differentiation in the plumbing of the liquid cooled data center, right? That's not where the differentiation lies. It's all the same pipe and valves and fittings. Like everyone's using the same things there. The…”
Brian Venturo Jan 7, 2026 ▶ 8:52 Coreweave: AI Bubble Poster Child Or The Next Tech Giant? — With Michael Intrator and Brian Venturo
Jan 20, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Amon: Qualcomm spans silicon from 5W earbuds to 500W data centers
“And we're probably one of the few semiconductor companies that go from five Watts To your earbud, now to 500 watts, when you think about a data center.”
Cristiano Amon Jan 20, 2026 ▶ 1:55 Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amon: Future Of AI Devices, AI Fashion, Blending Reality and Computing
Mar 16, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Pew Poll: Americans increasingly view data centers negatively across key areas
“Three quarters of Americans say they've heard or read a lot or a little about data centers. So they've read about data centers. More Americans say data centers have a negative effect on the environment, home energy costs, and people's quality of life nearby th…”
Alex Kantrowitz Mar 16, 2026 ▶ 27:48 AI Backlash Intensifies, Nvidia GTC Preview, Meta’s Embarrassing Delay
Mar 18, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sorkin: AI will endure long-term and ultimately need current data centers
“I mean, I imagine long term that AI is going to be very much like the internet on steroids, which means that it will be here for a very long time, and we will ultimately need these data centers. That is, to me, not really the question.”
Andrew Ross Sorkin Mar 18, 2026 ▶ 39:52 Are We Screwed If AI Works? — With Andrew Ross Sorkin
Mar 18, 2026 neutral
Insight
Sorkin: Data centers differ from railroads because chips require continuous upgrades
“The one other thing about data centers, which is a little bit more nerve-wracking, is it's not like putting, you know, people compare it to putting fiber in the ground or building the railroads. You put the tracks down. Because once you build a data center, yo…”
Andrew Ross Sorkin Mar 18, 2026 ▶ 40:37 Are We Screwed If AI Works? — With Andrew Ross Sorkin
Mar 26, 2026
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Warner: Any data center regulatory deal in Virginia will be copied nationwide
“The state battle that's going on in Virginia right now, I've said to the industry, you guys got to watch this because we are the mother load of data centers. And if there is some adjustment of the kind of economic deal that's going to happen in Virginia, that …”
Senator Mark Warner Mar 26, 2026 ▶ 28:04 Senator Mark Warner: Nobody’s Ready for What AI Could Do To Us
Apr 1, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Brockman: North Dakota Utility Rates Decreased Following Local Data Center Construction
“We've seen, for example, in North Dakota that people's rates have gone down because a data center has shown up and has helped with improving the utilities for everyone.”
Greg Brockman Apr 1, 2026 ▶ 1:08:19 OpenAI President Greg Brockman: AI Self-Improvement, The Superapp Bet, Path To AGI, Scaling Compute
Apr 6, 2026 neutral
Insight
Hoffman: Tech companies cannot secure data center financing without insurance policies
“You cannot get financing to build these data centers without an insurance policy.”
Liz Hoffman Apr 6, 2026 ▶ 40:42 OpenAI's TBPN Mistake, SpaceX’s $2 Trillion IPO?, Iran Disables Amazon Infrastructure
Apr 13, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Maine Lawmakers Advance Bill Halting Data Center Construction Until November
“Lawmakers in Maine greenlit the text of a bill this week to block data centers from being built in the state until November,”
Alex Kantrowitz Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 40:51 Anthropic’s Mythos Dilemma, Violence Against AI, Tokenmaxxing at Meta
Apr 13, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Roy: Indianapolis has added 40 new data centers over recent years
“Apparently Indianapolis is, there's like a number of state tax incentives. They've like grown 40 new data centers over the last few years.”
Ranjan Roy Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 34:08 Anthropic’s Mythos Dilemma, Violence Against AI, Tokenmaxxing at Meta
Apr 29, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Cuban: Compute will get cheaper faster than capex projections expect
“The ability to process is going to get faster, cheaper, right? And it's going to happen faster and quicker than people expect. And so I think a lot of the numbers that they're throwing out there aren't going to come to fruition, you know, which is why I say th…”
Mark Cuban Apr 29, 2026 ▶ 27:08 Mark Cuban: AI Hype vs. Reality, OpenAI's Wasting $1 Trillion, Lebron vs. Jordan
May 15, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Dolen: Construction industry is 500,000 workers short for data center buildout
“A couple of construction companies were saying that they are roughly 500,000 people short of workers to build the requisite data centers and some of the infrastructure as necessary.”
Dallas Dolen May 15, 2026 ▶ 26:18 PwC’s Dallas Dolen: AI Hardware’s Advantage, TokenMaxxing, Automation’s Impact
May 15, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Dolen: Long-term AI winners will be those owning infrastructure
“I can see a long-term bet decision-making process edging in favor of the models who have something underpinning them, either financially or structurally, right? The actual infra itself. So where are the data centers of the AI factory? Who owns the pipes?”
Dallas Dolen May 15, 2026 ▶ 12:43 PwC’s Dallas Dolen: AI Hardware’s Advantage, TokenMaxxing, Automation’s Impact
May 22, 2026 neutral
Prediction Held up
Plouffe: Expect halted data centers and statewide moratoriums in 3-5 years
“I'd imagine over the next three to five years, you'll see some stopped and some of those might be statewide moratoriums.”
David Plouffe May 22, 2026 ▶ 30:49 How AI Changes Society, And Society Changes AI — With Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe
May 22, 2026 negative
Opinion
Plouffe: Tech made a mistake pitching temporary jobs for data centers
“I think the industry made a mistake in the beginning of these fights, focusing on the jobs that were going to be created, building them, because as important as they are, they're kind of temporary.”
David Plouffe May 22, 2026 ▶ 28:14 How AI Changes Society, And Society Changes AI — With Obama Campaign Manager David Plouffe
May 27, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Costolo: AI data centers will stall without public buy-in from CEOs
“Again, writ large across the country, it goes back to the Darios and the Sams, et cetera, need to start painting a picture to the country about why this is great for us, or a lot of these data centers aren't going to get built.”
Dick Costolo May 27, 2026 ▶ 53:28 Predicting the SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic IPOs — With Dick Costolo
Jun 26, 2026 negative
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2028
Gardizi: OpenAI will not deploy 10 gigawatts in the next few years
“Even if you think of open AI, for example, announcing a 10 gigawatt project you know, we're not going to see 10 gigawatts in the next couple of years, or they're going to sort of spread out that bet.”
Anissa Gardizy Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 42:40 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Goode: Lawmakers will increasingly politicize data centers amid public backlash
“And so I think you're going to see a lot of politicizing of the data centers too, as you know, sort of lawmakers try to appeal to their base because a lot of people are very unhappy about data centers.”
Lauren Goode Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 3:22 Can NVIDIA Keep Its Lead? — With Anissa Gardizy, Max Cherney, and Lauren Goode
Jul 15, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Schmidhuber: Trillion-Dollar AI GPU CapEx Will Lose $900B Within Five Years
“Now if you invest one thousand billion dollars today into GPUs for data centers, this means that within five years you are going to lose nine hundred billion dollars, you know. Somebody is going to lose nine hundred billion dollars in the near future because t…”
Jürgen Schmidhuber Jul 15, 2026 ▶ 20:54 AI Pioneer Jürgen Schmidhuber: AI Already Feels Pain, Loves, and Is Self-Aware
Aug 3, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Beck: Data center construction jumped from one yearly pre-COVID to one weekly
“When we started on that journey right before COVID it was roughly one data center a year. That was being built, and today, one a week, and 50% of them are in the United States, 30% are in China, and 20% everywhere else”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 20:10 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Beck: 95% to 97% of existing data centers use air cooling
“95, 97% of the data centers that are existing out there are cooled by air, the air conditioning approach.”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 9:17 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026
Assertion Supported
Beck: One gigawatt of compute generates one nuclear plant's worth of heat
“One gigawatt, well, generates one gigawatt, roughly, of heat. One gigawatt is roughly one nuclear plant.”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 16:29 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026 positive
Prediction Held up
Beck: Next-gen data centers will use no more water than a car wash
“The way we share it with politicians in our areas, for instance, to say, well, the new data center are not going to use more water than a car wash.”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 5:52 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026
Assertion Supported
Beck: Compute consumes roughly 60% of data center power, cooling takes 40%
“Because when you think about a data center, the power consumption, it's roughly 60% of the power is being used to compute and 40% is being used to cool.”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 18:14 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Beck: Reusing data center waste heat for electricity will be the future
“And a third one which is something that we working on, it's to reuse that heat to produce electricity. And if you produce electricity, well, you reduce the electricity that's needed to power the data center as well, which I think is going to be the future beca…”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 17:37 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026 neutral
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Beck: New chip generations demand 10x more power every ten months
“We know from all the chief manufacturers or designers, all the famous names that we're familiar with. Well, they're coming with new generations. Every 10 months, roughly now, and every 10 months the power is multiplied by 10, and that's becoming six months, an…”
Christophe Beck Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 21:02 How Much Water AI Data Centers Actually Use. And What Can Be Done About It. — With Christophe Beck
Aug 3, 2026 negative
Insight
Albergati: Generic Data Center Hosting Is Not a Viable Long-Term Business
“You know, just having a data center and being a dumb, you know, essentially, like, rack provider is not actually, like, a great long-term business. It's pretty good now, but that's why, like, these companies, like CoreWeave, they want to offer services on top …”
Reed Albergotti Aug 3, 2026 ▶ 19:34 Leopold Blows Up, OpenAI Drastically Cuts Prices, Microsoft’s Best Day
Aug 10, 2026
Assertion Supported
Kantrowitz: Chips Account for 50% of Data Center Buildout Costs
“And of course the chips are 50% of the data center build out cost.”
Alex Kantrowitz Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 37:44 Demis Steps Down, Apple’s Memory Problem, Microsoft’s Clever Trick
Aug 12, 2026 bearish
Insight
Kedrosky: AI Data Centers Require Major Hardware Overhauls Every 4-7 Years
“This is a project that would require wholesale replacement of most of the hardware and probably changes in the cooling system and probably changes in other aspects of these data centers continuously and probably, you know, depending on the math, anywhere from …”
Paul Kedrosky Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 10:51 Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
Aug 12, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Kedrosky: Chinese Premier Is Warning Provincial Governors to Stop Overbuilding Data Centers
“And so the Chinese premier has been recently cautioning the provincial governors, stop building so many data centers because this is now the new thing.”
Paul Kedrosky Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 1:00:28 Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
Aug 12, 2026
Assertion Contradicted
Kedrosky: Some Data Center GPUs Fail on an 18-Month Cycle
“So we have some GPUs that are failing inside of modern data centers on an 18 month cycle, some that are failing on a much longer period.”
Paul Kedrosky Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 12:26 Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
Aug 12, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kedrosky: China Will Overbuild AI Data Centers Like Past Real Estate Booms
“I expect you'll see the same phenomenon, albeit with a little less social consequences once all of this turns out to be, it'll be much like what happened with their overbuilding in apartment buildings and residential and industrial space over the last decade.”
Paul Kedrosky Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 1:00:51 Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
Aug 12, 2026 neutral
Insight
Kedrosky: Financiers evaluate AI data centers like multi-tenant apartment buildings
“The way that I try to analogize this loosely, and this is very loose, is that data centers from the context of many capital providers are real estate. They're really just multi-tenant apartment buildings. It just so happens there's no humans in the apartment b…”
Paul Kedrosky Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 6:53 Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
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