Yann LeCun
Executive Chairman, AMI Labs · 4 appearances on the record.
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He received the 2018 ACM A.M. Turing Award alongside Yoshua Bengio and Geoffrey Hinton for pioneering breakthroughs in deep learning and convolutional neural networks. He served as the founding director of FAIR and Meta's Chief AI Scientist before launching AMI Labs.
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LeCun: Meta's V-JEPA exhibits physical common sense by detecting impossible events
“And you measure the prediction error as you show the video to the system. And when something impossible occurs, the prediction error goes, goes through the roof. And so you can detect if the system has integrated some idea of what, you know, is possible physic…”
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Everything Yann LeCun said on Big Technology that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →
LeCun: Scaling up LLMs will not produce human-level AI
“We are not going to get to human level AI by just scaling up LLMs. This is just not going to happen.”
LeCun: OpenAI's technology is well-engineered but not scientifically innovative
“Their technology is not particularly innovative from the scientific point of view. It's very well engineered. So they put together, you know, large scale scaled up system with trained with very well curated data. I mean, they know what they're doing. But in te…”
LeCun: Human-level AI will not happen within two years
“Whatever you can hear from some of my more adventurous colleagues it's not going to happen within the next two years. There's absolutely no way in hell to, you know, pardon my French.”
LeCun: AI cannot reach human-level intelligence without world models and planning
“And so until we build systems that have some internal model of the world, it allows them to kind of simulate the world if you want, some way of generating actions on the world to use tools like a calculator or something of that, or interrogating a database or …”
LeCun: Inventing new things requires skills language models cannot achieve
“Inventing new things, you know, requires a type of skill and abilities that you're not gonna get from NLMs.”
LeCun: Open-source AI researchers will progress faster than closed competitors
“The people who share their research are going to move faster than the ones that don't.”
LeCun: Large language models are incapable of inventing new things
“We also know that they can hallucinate facts that aren't true but they're really, in their purest form, they are incapable of inventing new things.”
LeCun: Breakthrough scientific AI will not be an LLM
“No, not, not in the current form. I mean, and whatever form of AI would be able to do that will not be LLMs. They might use LLMs as one component.”
LeCun: Chain-of-thought prompting does not produce genuine reasoning in LLMs
“One simple way of
getting NNMs to kind of appear to reason is chain of thought, right?
So you basically tell them to generate more tokens than they really need to in the hope that in the process of generating those tokens, they're going to devote more computa…”
LeCun: Nobody knows how to build agentic systems beyond regurgitating plans
“Everybody's talking about agentic systems. Nobody has any idea how to build them other than basically regurgitating plans that have, the system has already been trained on.”
LeCun: Scaling up LLMs will not produce human-level AI
“We are not going to get to human level AI by just scaling up LLMs. This is just not going to happen.”
LeCun: Digital superintelligence will not happen within two years
“Whatever you can hear from some of my more adventurous colleagues it's not going to happen within the next two years. There's absolutely no way in hell to, you know, pardon my French. The, you know, the idea that we're going to have, you know, a country of gen…”
LeCun: AI cannot reach human-level intelligence by training on text alone
“And it tells you clearly that we're not going to get to human level AI by just training on text. It's just not a rich enough source of information.”
LeCun: Pixel-level video generation will not solve AI world understanding
“Is the right way to approach this problem to train better and better video generation systems? And my answer to this is absolutely no. The problem of understanding the world does not go through the solution to the, to generating video at the pixel level.”
LeCun: Open source AI innovates faster than proprietary models can match
“Open source progress is faster and you know, a lot more innovation can take place in the open source world, which the proprietary world may have a hard time catching up with.”
LeCun: ChatGPT is not a major step toward human-level AI
“The short answer is it's not a, Particularly big step towards you know, more like human, human level intelligence.”
LeCun: OpenAI has become a contract research house for Microsoft
“They've become sort of a contract research house for Microsoft to some extent.”
LeCun: Startups absolutely cannot do fundamental research due to funding
“You can't, absolutely cannot do research in a startup. You just can't because you just don't have the funds, right?”
LeCun: Unclear whether Google's investment in DeepMind has been worth it
“The economic return after 10 years or so, or nine years that Google has gotten from DeepMind, you know, is not clear. It's worth their investment.”
LeCun: Current LLMs have no real knowledge of physical reality
“Because the understanding that those, the current systems have of you know, the underlying reality that language expresses is extremely shallow. So those systems have only been trained with text a huge amount of text. So they can regurgitate texts that they've…”
LeCun: Most core ChatGPT techniques originated at Google and Meta
“Most of the technology underlying techniques used in ChatGPT have been invented at Google and Meta.”
LeCun: Autonomous AI systems will inevitably develop emotions
“So if you have autonomous AI systems that work by optimizing objectives and they have the ability to predict they are going to have emotions. It's inseparable from autonomous intelligence.”
LeCun: AI models should legally be allowed to emulate artistic styles
“Human artists are
Absolutely authorized to get inspired and straight down copy someone else's style.
that happens absolutely all the time in in art.
And so would it make sense to apply a different rule for, let's call them artificial artists, right?
That, tha…”
The other half of the tape: Yann LeCun's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 97 times in 38 episodes on Big Technology. 2 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Alex Kantrowitz 69M.G. Siegler 8Joelle Pineau 4Gary Marcus 4Ranjan Roy 3Sir Nick Clegg 2Geoffrey Hinton 2Aaron Levie 2
Statements about Yann LeCun, by other people (2)
Levie: Altman's 2028 superintelligence timeline is totally reasonable
“I think that, that there's kind of, that seems to be totally reasonable based on the trajectory that we're on. And I would bet that, that Sam has an even a far higher bar for what his definition of, you know, intellectual or whatever the term was, then even I …”
Kantrowitz: Yann LeCun left Meta to launch a Meta-funded AI startup
“Jan LeCun has left. Inevitable. I'm not going to even take too much credit because the most likely thing ever, most likely prediction I've ever made yet. He's gonna start his own startup. Looks like Facebook is gonna fund it. So in part.”
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2026 29 mentions in 11 episodes 3 per episode
- AI Pioneer Geoffrey Hinton: AI Is Conscious, Superintelligence is Coming, And We Should Be Worried
- Claude Code Head Boris Cherny: Insane Growth, Tokenmaxxing, AI Agents' Next Frontier
- More OpenAI C-Suite Drama, Is Siri Seriously Broken?, Meta’s Elusive Next Hit
- AI's Research Frontier: Memory, World Models, & Planning — With Joelle Pineau
- Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
- Demis Steps Down, Apple’s Memory Problem, Microsoft’s Clever Trick
- How The AI Bet Pays Off + AI Lab Strategy Game — With David Cahn
- Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth: Our Path To Frontier AI, Renting Models, Consumer AI's Struggles
- 3 more episodes that year, every mention in 2026 →
2025 47 mentions in 18 episodes 3 per episode
- NVIDIA VP Rev Lebaredian Talks Plan To Build AI That Understands The Real World
- Tim Cook’s Final Year?, Big Tech Horse Race, Anthropic’s Profitability Push
- OpenAI’s Risky Browser Bet, Amazon’s Mass Automation Plan, Clippy’s Back
- Gruber Slams Apple's Siri Failure, Tech Stocks In Freefall, Vibecoding & OpenAI's Agents
- Google Pushes OpenAI, Bezos Returns, AI’s No. 1 Hit
- Sora 2 & AI’s Slop Era, Death Of The Creator Economy?, Apple’s SmartGlasses Roadmap
- $100 Million AI Engineers, Vending Machine Claude, Legend Of Soham
- Google DeepMind CTO: Advancing AI Frontier, New Reasoning Methods, Video Generation’s Potential
- 10 more episodes that year, every mention in 2025 →
2024 15 mentions in 6 episodes 3 per episode
- Why Meta Wants To Build Artificial General Intelligence — With Joelle Pineau, VP of Meta AI Research
- Anthropic's Co-Founder on AI Agents, General Intelligence, and Sentience — With Jack Clark
- Is Generative AI Plateauing?, Booming Bluesky, Apple’s Smart Glasses Play
- Meta's Chief Technology Officer On Its Augmented Reality Dreams — With Andrew Bosworth
- Yubo Wants To Replace Performative Social Media With Real Time Social Discovery
- Predicting AI’s Next Advances — With Suhail Doshi
- every mention in 2024, scene by scene →
2023 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2022 3 mentions in 1 episode
Appearances (4)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Yann LeCun: We Won't Reach AGI By Scaling Up LLMS | May 30, 2025 | 10m |
| Why Can't AI Make Its Own Discoveries? — With Yann LeCun | Mar 19, 2025 | 41m |
| Is ChatGPT A Step Toward Human-Level AI? — With Yann LeCun, Meta Chief AI Scientist | Jan 25, 2023 | 44m |
| Daniel Kahneman and Yann LeCun: How To Get AI To Think Like Humans (Full Episode) | Dec 10, 2021 | 44m |