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Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where Yann LeCun comes up
Why The AI Bubble Will Burst: The Most Logical Case — With Paul Kedrosky
- ▶ 1:03:16 Paul Kedrosky And, you know, Ian Lacoon and others, the former researcher at, at, at, uh, Meta is now off doing his own world model thing.
Demis Steps Down, Apple’s Memory Problem, Microsoft’s Clever Trick
- ▶ 51:57 M.G. Siegler He's talked that he's excited about world models and, and, and obviously he's not alone there with Yann LeCun and a bunch of others sort of all now working in this space.
How The AI Bet Pays Off + AI Lab Strategy Game — With David Cahn
- ▶ 16:00 Alex Kantrowitz Um, Jan LeCun has been, like, on the warpath talking about how LLMs are not the route to
Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth: Our Path To Frontier AI, Renting Models, Consumer AI's Struggles
- ▶ 1:49 Alex Kantrowitz And then I met Jan.
AI Pioneer Geoffrey Hinton: AI Is Conscious, Superintelligence is Coming, And We Should Be Worried
- ▶ 4:46 Geoffrey Hinton Um, Jan LeCun thinks, um, unless you do it his way, it'll be much longer than that. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:19 Alex Kantrowitz We spoke in 2017 actually about, when I was writing this profile about Yann LeCun, about the deep learning conspiracy, which was yourself, Yann and Yashua Bengio, holding onto this idea that deep learning was going to work, where everybody… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 43:56 Alex Kantrowitz I find it interesting that 9 times in the scene
Claude Code Head Boris Cherny: Insane Growth, Tokenmaxxing, AI Agents' Next Frontier
- ▶ 51:56 Alex Kantrowitz Here's something from Jan LeCun. 5 times in the scene
More OpenAI C-Suite Drama, Is Siri Seriously Broken?, Meta’s Elusive Next Hit
- ▶ 58:38 M.G. Siegler The difference is Google actually executed upon it and meta so far has not, even though they brought in Yann LeCun and even though 2 times in the scene
OpenAI’s Superapp Is Coming, Jensen on Jobs, Bezos’s $100 Billion Automation Fund
- ▶ 47:28 Alex Kantrowitz Um, but the funny thing would be if they do pivot to world models, guess who the perfect person to bring back, uh, to run that would be beyond Lacoon.
OpenAI Closes in on $100 Billion, OpenClaw Acquired, AI’s Productivity Question — With Aaron Levie
- ▶ 23:41 Aaron Levie So I, I think that that is a very reasonable statement based on what he's saying that might be different than what like Yon Lacoon would say.
AI's Research Frontier: Memory, World Models, & Planning — With Joelle Pineau
- ▶ 19:17 Alex Kantrowitz Um, same with, if you think about video models and image models, and by the way, one of your former colleagues, Yann LeCun would always talk about how to generate, and I know he has some criticisms of video models, but to be able to… 2 times in the scene
Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis: AI's Next Breakthroughs, AGI Timeline, Google's AI Glasses Bet
- ▶ 2:52 Demis Hassabis So, I don't, I'm not subscriber to someone like Jan LeCun who thinks, you know, that there's sort of some kind of dead end.
Tim Cook’s Final Year?, Big Tech Horse Race, Anthropic’s Profitability Push
- ▶ 20:50 M.G. Siegler If everything you read is basically like similar to the, um, the Yann LeCun's situation at Meta, like it sort of feels like the writing's on the wall there. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 45:30 M.G. Siegler Leon, the kind of, of course, famously has, has stepped away from meta to go work on that, but also, um, Ilya, that's all he basically talked about.
- ▶ 49:08 M.G. Siegler To your point, Meta feels like they're, they're literally letting that ship sail in, in Yann LeCun and they'll invest or whatever in his startup, but they obviously made their bet in the opposite way.
Google Pushes OpenAI, Bezos Returns, AI’s No. 1 Hit
- ▶ 24:10 Alex Kantrowitz First of all, uh, as I think you predicted, Jan LeCun has left. 3 times in the scene
Can We Trust Silicon Valley With Superintelligence? — With Nick Clegg
- ▶ 37:19 Sir Nick Clegg I just, you know, I'm very interested that there are folk like my dear friend, Jan LeCun and others who've been pretty consistent and sure they get, surely they're criticized and mocked for it. 2 times in the scene
OpenAI’s IPO Plan, Deconstructing The AI Bet, Apple’s iPhone 17 Revival
- ▶ 39:27 M.G. Siegler What if that's just a small part of the equation, which has long been stated by Jan Lagoon and others like, right.
OpenAI’s Risky Browser Bet, Amazon’s Mass Automation Plan, Clippy’s Back
- ▶ 52:16 Alex Kantrowitz Now, the division started by Jan LeCun to advance the frontier of AI research within Meta. 4 times in the scene
AGI or Bust, OpenAI’s $1 Trillion Gamble, Apple’s Next CEO?
- ▶ 15:06 Alex Kantrowitz And of course, Jan LeCun has been loudly talking about that.
Sora 2 & AI’s Slop Era, Death Of The Creator Economy?, Apple’s SmartGlasses Roadmap
- ▶ 12:54 Alex Kantrowitz The thing about, uh, chat is, or yeah, text is, it's somewhat easier to predict the next word, uh, than it is to let, let's say, and this is a Yann LeCun example, hold up a pen and drop it and predict where it's going to go because there's… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 37:20 Alex Kantrowitz So bothered Jan LeCun, an AI pioneer who co-founded FAIR in 2013, that he mused to colleagues in September that perhaps he should quit as FAIR's chief scientist.
OpenAI’s Windsurf Crash, Grok’s Wild Week, Replace Tim Cook? — With Aaron Levie
- ▶ 19:46 Aaron Levie Yeah, if you have, if you put Jan, Jan Lacoon, Ilya, and, uh, Demis would be in that category if we need new techniques.
$100 Million AI Engineers, Vending Machine Claude, Legend Of Soham
- ▶ 20:55 Ranjan Roy Whatever the end payment was, even at, like, at a micro level, like, is Yann LeCun now gonna be reporting to Alexander Wang? 3 times in the scene
Dwarkesh Patel: AI Continuous Improvement, Intelligence Explosion, Memory, Frontier Lab Competition
- ▶ 32:33 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, that you tweeted out and we've actually brought up on the show with Yann LeCun about why AI cannot make its own discoveries.
Google DeepMind CTO: Advancing AI Frontier, New Reasoning Methods, Video Generation’s Potential
- ▶ 9:21 Alex Kantrowitz We had Jan Lacoon on the show a couple of weeks ago. 3 times in the scene
Are We at the End of Ai Progress? — With Gary Marcus
- ▶ 1:04 Alex Kantrowitz Uh, Yama Koon has also talked about the fact that you're just not going to see as many returns from AI scaling as you would beforehand. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 27:01 Gary Marcus Jan LeCun used this notion of, you know, we're on the exit ramp, or how do you say it?
Is Anthropic’s Claude AI Conscious, Shopping in ChatGPT, Systrom vs. Zuck
- ▶ 21:02 Alex Kantrowitz Like Jan LeCun was saying a couple of weeks ago, if you don't have an understanding of the world, your AI isn't complete.
Why China's AI Strategy Just Might Work — With Grace Shao
- ▶ 11:52 Alex Kantrowitz We want everything to be compatible with our systems, and that will, in turn, lead to growth in our products, and we're going to put it everywhere, uh, including, you know, within Messenger, and within WhatsApp, and within Instagram, and…
- ▶ 17:03 Alex Kantrowitz There is a widely cited, uh, AI paper that, that did come out of China, um, that Yan mentioned on the show a couple of weeks ago.
OpenAI Raises $40 billion, Is AI a Letdown?, Musk Sells X to xAI
- ▶ 16:27 Alex Kantrowitz If for whatever reason they find out, maybe like Jan LeCun said on the show a little while ago, that you're not going to be able to just scale up these models and get AGI.
AI's Rising Risks: Hacking, Virology, Loss of Control — With Dan Hendrycks
- ▶ 22:20 Alex Kantrowitz But the thing is, they're at 10 to 20% now, and many experts within the AI field, the practitioners, we had Jan on a couple weeks ago, talking about how we're getting to the point of diminishing returns with scaling, right? 3 times in the scene
Gruber Slams Apple's Siri Failure, Tech Stocks In Freefall, Vibecoding & OpenAI's Agents
- ▶ 37:33 Alex Kantrowitz Jan LeCun is going to be on the show next week. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 58:37 Alex Kantrowitz All right, everybody, as I mentioned, Jan Lacuna is going to be on the show on Wednesday.
NVIDIA VP Rev Lebaredian Talks Plan To Build AI That Understands The Real World
- ▶ 6:29 Alex Kantrowitz And let me just bring you into a conversation that we had here on the show with Jan LeCun, who's met as a chief AI scientist, really right after ChatGPT came out. 5 times in the scene
- ▶ 26:20 Alex Kantrowitz And Jan's gonna come on the show in a couple weeks, so maybe this is just in my mind because, um, I'm gearing up and, and thinking about our last conversation, but I'm gonna put this to you also.
- ▶ 34:40 Alex Kantrowitz Rev, I want to ask you, uh, one more follow-up question about, not the flaws, but the video generator's ability to get things right, and then we're going to move on from this topic, but it is just surprising and interesting for me to hear…
Is Generative AI Plateauing?, Booming Bluesky, Apple’s Smart Glasses Play
- ▶ 18:32 Alex Kantrowitz I think Yann LeCun's definition is really good, which is basically that it's human level intelligence.
Meta's Chief Technology Officer On Its Augmented Reality Dreams — With Andrew Bosworth
- ▶ 32:55 Andrew Bosworth And it's an important, maybe a component of a total system, but I tend to think Yann LeCun's, uh, critiques of it are spot on are spot on.
Anthropic's Co-Founder on AI Agents, General Intelligence, and Sentience — With Jack Clark
- ▶ 14:05 Alex Kantrowitz In the early days of ChatGPT, we had Jan Lacuna here talking about how dumb these bots were, and he had me do this, uh, in his opinion, and he had me do this, um, this experiment where I, I asked ChatGPT, I'm holding a paper up, uh, from…
- ▶ 23:25 Alex Kantrowitz I mean, Jan, who was a machine learning pioneer. 2 times in the scene
Yubo Wants To Replace Performative Social Media With Real Time Social Discovery
- ▶ 27:37 Alex Kantrowitz And of course, one of my favorite, uh, thinkers to speak with on AI is Yann LeCun, another man from France.
Predicting AI’s Next Advances — With Suhail Doshi
- ▶ 36:51 Alex Kantrowitz Let me ask you something about video before we go to break there, because there's a debate that I've been trying to wrap my head around, which is kind of this debate between Jan LeCun who built this thing called VJEPA, right?
Why Meta Wants To Build Artificial General Intelligence — With Joelle Pineau, VP of Meta AI Research
- ▶ 4:24 Alex Kantrowitz So, I mean, Yann LeCun in our discussions, I've been speaking with him since 2015, one of your colleagues, he's always talked about how the goal is building for artificial general intelligence. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:10 Alex Kantrowitz And Jan and I spoke about this on a recent show, not so recent anymore, but your interactions in the world teach you so much that you never learn with language.
- ▶ 19:18 Joelle Pineau And so that's why it's coming out, um, maybe more from what you're hearing from Mark, but I think if you go back in and listen to what Jan or I, or some of our other senior researchers
- ▶ 41:16 Joelle Pineau Um, this is something that Jan has been thinking about a lot. 3 times in the scene
Google's DeepMind Wants To Make Human-Level Artificial Intelligence, Says Its Chief Business Officer
- ▶ 18:15 Alex Kantrowitz Yeah, we've had Jan Lacuna on the show and I've been speaking with Jan for since 2015, 20 16. 2 times in the scene
Blake Lemoine and Gary Marcus Debate AI Chatbots
- ▶ 33:31 Alex Kantrowitz Jan LeCun shared similar perspective on the podcast a couple of weeks ago.
Is AI Dangerously Overhyped? — With Gary Marcus
- ▶ 42:33 Gary Marcus And I think Yann LeCun, who I've notoriously gotten in on Twitter. 3 times in the scene