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record can support or contradict it. opinions and what-ifs never can, and 2 checkable
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Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Fully automated 'in silico' drug discovery is a long way off
“The idea that you're going to throw on, you know, turn a switch on a computer and it's going to think about something and event, you know, the next Prozac. I don't know. I think we're a long way from that day.”
Assertion Supported
Eli Lilly CEO: Tirzepatide surpassed Keytruda as best-selling drug ever
“And then terzepatide, which you asked how much money we're making, but in, actually in Q-two, we reported global sales, which surpassed Keytruda to becoming the best-selling drug in the world, actually the best-selling drug in the world of all time.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Poor US insurance coverage drives patients to gray market GLP-1s
“We're not used to it in the United States. Because we, one, have a, for most people, a pretty good system to subsidize some of the benefit via the insurance markets, so there's not a lot of incentive to go outside the system. That's different for these drugs, …”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Competitors cannot match our manufacturing scale without Chinese state backing
“And unless some Chinese state-owned enterprise gets in this business, it'll be very hard for others to build that out and follow.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Chinese entities use AI to reverse-engineer and hack chemical patents
“China's getting very good at patent hacking. So what they do is they look at that chemical structure. They work backwards, sometimes driven by AI. Algorithms define chemical structures that will behave similarly, but are outside the patent scope, and they go f…”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: China's derivative biotech market significantly hurts global sector valuations
“So they're really quite a derivative biotech market, but that is also hurting biotech valuations in a significant way.”
Prediction Held up
Dave Ricks predicts competitor's GLP-1 dementia study likely won't be positive
“Our competitor is going to read out a study in a few months on dementia risk. It probably won't be positive. That's my guess, but it will probably be in the right direction.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Low-dose GLP-1s could eventually be used to extend healthspan
“I think we're going to get to a point. We're taking pretty low doses for most people, say over 60, 58. It's not a terrible idea. It may help you live longer.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks claims anti-fat, high-carb diets drove US obesity growth
“The anti-fat, high-carb diets, which we were feeding people for 30 years, and I think most people don't believe in that anymore, but it led to a big part of the obesity curve, glycemic index kind of thing.”
Assertion Contradicted
Ricks: Eli Lilly's GLP-1 drugs are undefeated in chronic disease trials
“So far in our studies, this category of medicine's undefeated. We've never had an unsuccessful study in measuring an outcome in a chronic disease.”
Assertion Supported
Ricks: Three-year Mounjaro trial showed 94% reduction in diabetes diagnoses
“We just read that study out with Manjaro, which showed that three years on our drug, 94% fewer new diagnosis of outright diabetes.”
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Ricks: Medicare rules prohibit covering weight-loss drugs unless patients have diabetes
“If you're say on Medicare, currently the rule of the federal government is they won't pay. For these medications. You have to get diabetes before you can get the drug.”
Assertion Supported
Under 5% of obese adults reach healthy weight via lifestyle changes alone
“Some studies show like less than five percent of people can reach a healthy body weight on diet and exercise once they're obese.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks expects steady-state GLP-1 net pricing around $3,000 to $4,000 annually
“Probably net pricing for us, you know, is going to be something like three, 4000 dollars a year in the steady state per person, but I think we'll create more value than that. We'll save the system more money than that per year per user.”
Assertion Partly supported
Eli Lilly retains only one-third of gross drug prices after PBM cuts
“Two thirds of actually our gross price goes to PBMs and insurance companies. So of the gross price that's often quoted, the net for us is about a third of that.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks estimates 20M people globally take prescription GLP-1 drugs
“I'd estimate around twenty million take prescription GLP-I's.”
Prediction Held up
Dave Ricks says Eli Lilly's GLP-1 weight-loss pill launches in 2026
“Yeah, that's ours. Coming next year.”
Assertion Supported
Eli Lilly reduced out-of-pocket GLP-1 medication costs to $499
“We've led in reducing the out-of-pocket costs, but from, it was originally a thousand dollars, now it's four 99 from us.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eli Lilly employs 4,200 PhD scientists, matching MIT and Harvard combined
“We currently have about 4200 PhD scientists at Lilly. By the way, it's about the same as MIT and Harvard combined.”
Assertion Contradicted
Dave Ricks: Annual biotech venture funding collapsed from $20B to $5B
“Peak got to about twenty billion in new checks a year into biotech. We're now about five.”
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Ricks: Half of public biotech companies trade at or below cash
“Half of biotech that's publicly traded is trading at or below cash.”
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2029
Dave Ricks expects to launch a mental health GLP-1 in 3-4 years
“So we'll get that drug in three or four years if it works, and I think it could really change some of these terrible mental health conditions.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Most primary care doctors are too busy to stay updated
“Most primary care doctors are way too busy to even attend a continuing education, even know what's happening.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: AI drug information is mostly accurate and substantially improved
“Mostly it's accurate, and they've It's gotten better over the last two years. I'd say substantially better.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks predicts the next major therapeutic surprise will be brain disease
“It's hard to predict that, but I would say probably a brain disease.”
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Dave Ricks: Two-thirds of US calories are ultra-processed vs 35% in Europe
“In the U S we're now eating two thirds of our calories in our country are ultra processed. And that compares to like 35% in Europe.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: India's obesity rate projected to reach 30% within 20 years
“India, I think is 11% of the population's obese, but projected to go as much as 30% in the next 20 years.”
Assertion Supported
Epic study links GLP-1 drug use to remarkably lower clinical depression rates
“There's an interesting study done by Epic. You know, they're the big health record company. Which is retrospective and not tightly controlled, but it showed people on GLP-I drugs, incretins, had remarkably lower rates of new clinical depression diagnoses, whic…”
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Ricks: About 50% of employer-sponsored health plans cover GLP-1 weight-loss drugs
“Right now about 50% of the employer-sponsored insurance plans cover it.”
Assertion Contradicted
Dave Ricks: Walmart study shows GLP-1 users buy 30% fewer calories
“Last year Walmart did this sort of what's in the cart study for people in Ozempic or Manjaro and it showed They were buying about a third less calories. So that's a lot, but that's consistent with how the drugs work. But interesting also, fewer salty snack foo…”
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Ricks: 10 to 11 million Americans currently take GLP-1 drugs
“We only have 10 or eleven million Americans on these drugs.”
Assertion Partly supported
Ricks: Eli Lilly GLP-1 launched at 20% discount to Novo Nordisk
“We launched at a 20% discount to Nova's product, even though we have better efficacy data, and we've only cut the price since then.”
Assertion Partly supported
Eli Lilly spends $14.2 billion on R&D, equal to 25% of sales
“We spent 25% of sales on R&D. This year that'll be 14.2 billion dollars.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Pharma companies lack enduring franchises due to patent cliffs
“In pharma, all our, we have no enduring franchise. Everything we make goes to zero because of the patent system.”
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2039
Dave Ricks predicts Mounjaro revenues will drop to zero in the 2030s
“So, in 20, 30 something, Manjaro will go to zero.”
Assertion Supported
Eli Lilly's Mounjaro demonstrated a 93% reduction in pre-diabetes conversion
“So we did that with Manjaro and showed a 93% reduction in conversion from pre-diabetes to diabetes.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: The US is the least metabolically healthy large country
“I think we are the least healthy metabolic big country, and probably the reason for that is the food we feed ourselves.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eli Lilly spends over half its consumer advertising budget outside TV
“By the way, more than half of our consumer spending to reach consumers is not on TV.”
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Dave Ricks: Brain diseases account for 40% of global human suffering
“I think if you look at human suffering globally, 40% is brain diseases”
Assertion Supported
Eli Lilly and Genentech partnered to create the first-ever biotechnology product
“We had partnered with Genentech to do another first, which is create the first biotechnology product on planet earth, which was human insulin made in a bacterial cell.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Science does not yet fully understand GLP-1's secondary metabolic effects
“What we don't even fully understand yet though, David, which is interesting is, is that there are primary effects of GLP-I. Certainly we can reproduce like in a test tube or a cell system, but then there's a whole myriad of other probably secondary effects bec…”
Assertion Contradicted
Ricks: Eli Lilly has 105 active tirzepatide clinical trials
“Currently, Lily has a 105 studies going with trisapatide in these other diseases.”
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Ricks: Employers not covering weight-loss meds will look crazy in five years
“I think in five years we'll look back and we'll say that was crazy. Once the evidence base is built up and there's more adoption and less stigma, but right now that's the current state.”
Assertion Supported
Eli Lilly oral GLP-1 shows efficacy matching high-dose semaglutide in trials
“In our hands, it, it's about as good as high dose semaglutide, and we, we're doing phase three right now. So that will start to read out next year.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ricks: Eli Lilly has regulatory approvals in 40+ unlaunched countries
“We have approvals in more than 40 countries we haven't even launched in.”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ricks: Brain and neuroscience diseases cause 40% of global suffering
“About 40% of global suffering is some form of a brain or neuroscience disease.”
Assertion Supported
Dave Ricks: Eli Lilly gene therapy restored hearing in congenitally deaf children
“We've treated patients that have gone from like six, eight years of life, no hearing at all to now hearing.”
Assertion Supported
Dave Ricks: Eli Lilly has Phase 3 siRNA drug targeting Lp(a)
“We have a project in phase three right now that knocks down the production of something called LpA, which is a lipoprotein particle that's probably thought to be about 25% of the remnant reasons why we still have cardiovascular disease and there's no medicine …”