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Chamath predicts Tesla and SpaceX will merge by mid-next year
“When Tesla and SpaceX merge and we have all things, Elon and Elon Corp. Okay. Which will happen. Probably by the end of the year, maybe it'll happen in the middle of next year.”
Wood: Tesla stock will reach $2,600 per share in five years
“And we put out there five years. Yeah. Yeah. So and I think if he delivers on humanoid robots the way he thinks he is, we don't have enough in there. So our price target is 2600.”
Sacks: Tesla stock drop driven partly by leftist attacks on dealerships
“One of the reasons why Tesla is down is because you've had crazy leftists engaging in terrorism, firebombing Tesla dealerships.”
Elon Musk claims he has done more for the environment than anyone
“It would be fair to say that, therefore, as a leader of the company, I've done more for the environment than everyone else, any single human on Earth.”
Musk calls Tesla co-founder Martin Eberhard his worst colleague ever
“There's still this guy, Mark Eberhard, who's the worst guy I've ever worked with, who tries to claim like sold credit essentially for creating a Tesla.”
Calacanis: Tesla's Optimus humanoid robot will be the world's best-selling product
“Optimist will be the best selling. I think product.”
Palihapitiya: Tesla will eventually merge into Elon Musk's wider ecosystem
“I still don't like the fact that Tesla's over here. And as I've told you, that will get merged in.”
Calacanis: Tesla will produce 1B Optimus robots and won't be remembered for cars
“I can tell you now, nobody will remember that Tesla ever made a car. They will only remember the Optimus and that he is going to make a billion of those.”
Musk: Refuses to build Tesla robot army without voting control protection
“Let's just say I'm not going to build a robot army if I can be easily kicked out by activist investors.”
Sacks: Rutgers study shows 60% of left-of-center respondents justify destroying Tesla dealerships
“Then they asked about destroying Tesla dealerships and protests, whether that could be justified, and roughly 60% of left of center said yes, and 23% of right of center said yes.”
Musk: Existing Tesla AI4 hardware will reach 2-3x human safety
“I am confident that the current chips AI, AI four chips that are in the cars will achieve self-driving safety that is at least two to three times that of human and maybe even X and the software that will be released for that is, is coming out over the next few…”
Musk predicts Tesla vehicles will feel sentient by the end of 2025
“Your car is going to feel like it is sentient by the end of the year.”
Sacks: Left-wing activists are firebombing Tesla dealerships to depress sales
“You have crazy leftists firebombing Tesla dealerships painting swastikas on Tesla cars, accosting Tesla drivers. Okay. Creating violence and chaos and trying to depress Tesla sales.”
Chamath predicts traditional auto manufacturers face collapse and mega-mergers in 2025
“I think that this is the year that we will see the collapse of the traditional auto OEMs. And I think that the deal that happened at the end of 2024 with Honda, Nissan, I think is a bit of a signal to what the industry has to do, which is to go through a massi…”
Calacanis: Optimus robot will dwarf all other Tesla businesses
“I think Optimus will dwarf the entire entirety of Tesla's other businesses.”
Elon Musk: Tesla has done more for environment than all companies combined
“Tesla has done more to help the environment than all other companies combined.”
Chamath: UAW strikes are handing Tesla the entire US auto market
“It's great for Tesla. I mean, it's giving Tesla the entire US auto market.”
Sacks: Exxon is a top-ranked ESG company while Tesla is excluded
“Here's all you have to know about ESG is that Exxon is like the number seven, like top-ranked company according to ESG, and Tesla isn't even on the list.”
Elon Musk says Tesla China's work ethic exceeds Tesla's US team
“The work that work ethic is exceeded on balance by the Tesla China team. That, that is, I think, objectively true.”
Palihapitiya: Twitter free speech impact could exceed Tesla and SpaceX
“I think that if he is able to make free speech cool again, he'll, he'll actually do more doing that than potentially through SpaceX and Tesla, and that's already saying a lot.”
Calacanis: Proposed EV tax credit gives non-union Tesla $4,500 less
“The 12,000 dollar credit that they're giving to or they're proposing to give to all EV manufacturers is only if you have union employees It's 4500 less to Tesla.”
Chamath Palihapitiya predicts flooded nickel mines will double Tesla vehicle prices
“A flood in a nickel mine is going to cause the price of a Tesla to basically double.”
Calacanis: Every Tesla sold will include built-in Starlink connectivity
“So the piece there that's going to be explained probably in the next year or two is every single Tesla sold is going to have Starlink in it when they get that merger done. What that means is you're going to have wifi networks connecting any phone. To any Tesla…”
Ackman: Elon Musk's army of online followers enabled Tesla to be built
“He builds an army of believers and followers that enabled Tesla to be built,”
Kalanick: Tesla is the Google of the physical AI era
“They are the Google of this era, which is what I mean by that is in the 2000, if you were doing a startup in the 2000, the first question you would get. Is why isn't Google going to kill you? Or why isn't Google just going to do it? They're not going to know t…”
Chamath: SpaceX will reverse merge into Tesla instead of IPOing
“I don't think SpaceX will IPO. I think that it will reverse merge into Tesla, and I think Elon will use it as a moment to consolidate control and power of his two seminal assets into one cap table.”
Musk: Tesla fleet will probably reach 100 million vehicles eventually
“If ultimately there's a Tesla fleet that is a hundred million vehicles which I think we probably will get to at some point a hundred million vehicle fleet”
Musk thinks Tesla will ultimately produce millions of Cybercabs annually
“I think ultimately we'll make millions of cyber cabs per year.”
Musk: Every car Tesla currently produces is capable of being a robotaxi
“I mean, all of the cars we make right now are capable of being a robotaxi.”
Musk: Tesla expects 1,000+ robotaxis in Bay Area and 500+ in Austin by year end
“We, you know, we think probably we'll have, you know, a thousand cars or more in the Bay Area by the end of this year, probably, I don't know, 500 or more in the greater Austin area.”
Tesla's camera-only autonomy strategy trades hardware savings for software difficulty
“Elon is doing camera only. Tougher on the software, cheaper for the hardware, ok?”
Musk: Optimus will be the biggest product ever if successful
“I think it is accurate to say that if successful, Optimus will be the biggest product ever.”
Musk: Optimus production cost will be ~$20k at 1M units annually
“I think the marginal cost of production once you hit a million units per year is probably around the 20,000 dollar range.”
Calacanis: A 10% Tesla equity stake would have funded 100 Solyndras
“If the government had gotten just 10% of that in equity, that would have paid for a hundred cylinders and mistakes.”
Lafont: Nvidia and Tesla are top picks for 5-year AI dominance
“Look, I think to me, number one, I still think NVIDIA, right? I don't see the GPU kind of getting displaced. I see additional architectures kind of coming on board, right? And growing the market. But at the end of the day, all roads still lead to the GPU for a…”
Chamath: Tesla and Google will lead AI superintelligence over next five years
“Tesla's one and Google's two. And the reason is because they are the closest to having that vertically integrated stack that I spoke about.”
Friedberg: Forcing TikTok equity surrender sets dangerous precedent for US firms abroad
“I do worry a lot about the precedent being set here with respect to foreign government actions on U.S. Companies in their local countries. Imagine the CCP tells Tesla they have to sell their Chinese operations and give 50% of the Chinese operations to the Chin…”
Chamath: Waymo and Tesla will dominate autonomous market, forcing OEM consolidation
“I think that Waymo and Tesla are gonna run away with this market, and I think it's gonna force a bunch of consolidation in the traditional auto OEMs.”
Bannister: Tesla should acquire Uber if it enters the robotaxi market
“If they enter the robo taxi market, I actually think they should buy Uber.”
Calacanis predicts massive consolidation between Tesla, Uber, Waymo, and delivery apps
“I think the age of autonomy is here, and I think there is going to be Some partnerships that will happen between Amazon, DoorDash, Uber, Tesla, Waymo, and that cohort, and I would not be surprised to see Tesla could buy Uber right now for but 10% of its market…”
Baker predicts traditional automotive manufacturers will entirely lose their Chinese business
“They're going to lose their Chinese business because they don't make competitive products anymore. If there's not massive protectionism, and we're seeing signs of that, they'll be caught between Tesla and the Chinese OEMs. And I think the only way that this do…”
Mark Cuban stopped using Tesla FSD because it terrified him
“I have, but I stopped using it just because it terrified me because it doesn't know what adversarial things it doesn't know.”
Friedberg: Rejecting Musk's pay would have reduced Tesla stock price further
“And the reality is that by him getting the pay package, the certainty of him sticking around at the company caused the stock to go up by 10%. So they actually had the calculus wrong that if they had gotten their way, the stock would have declined by more than …”
Sacks: Delaware risks losing premier corporate status over Tesla pay rulings
“If that happens, I mean, Delaware can kind of kiss its status as the premier corporate law state away.”
Chamath: Tesla would dominate ride-hailing if it cuts prices
“So if Tesla enters in as a third player in that field and just guts pricing, which I think would make sense for them to do, I think this thing is just gangbusters nuclear.”
Sachs: Chinese EV competition is Tesla's only real long-term issue
“I would say the only issue they have that's a real long-term issue is just the Chinese competition. Companies like BDY are ramping up production of knockoff products at low prices, and so managing the competition with China is probably The only one of these is…”