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Michael Kratsios

Director, Office of Science and Technology Policy · 3 appearances on the record.

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Kratsios served as the 4th Chief Technology Officer of the United States and Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering. In the private sector, he worked as Chief of Staff at Thiel Capital and Managing Director and Head of Strategy at Scale AI.

19statements → 11claims → 7claims resolved → 43%fully supported → 3.95/5average certainty → 2.95/5average debate potential → 23said about them ↓

3 supported 0 partly supported 4 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 3 not checkable as stated how the 11 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

2 predictions · 9 assertions · 4 opinions · 1 insight · 3 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 11 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 7 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 3 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Michael argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Kratsios: China has achieved no EUV lithography breakthrough since 2019
“They have been trying to essentially figure out how to do EV lithography since, since we put the export controls in 2019, no breakthrough has happened.”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 27:52 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Kratsios: 25% of Biden-Era NSF Grants Went to DEI Initiatives
“Senator Ted Cruz and the committee on at, on, in the Senate did an analysis of the grants that were given during the Biden administration. And they found that roughly one quarter Where, 25% of grants at NSF during that time period went towards DEI-related quot…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 7:27 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios

How they sound: speaking style how? →

274 words/min while actually speaking · 12.7 um and uh per 1k words

No argument clarity score for Michael Kratsios: only 1 usable question→answer exchange on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 4,257 words across 2 episodes of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Michael Kratsios said on All-In that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Kratsios: Fauci Did More Disservice to Science Than Anyone in Modern History
“And I think, you know, he did more disservice to science than anyone in, in modern history.”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 45:48 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Opinion
Kratsios: The scientific community has become deeply politicized over past 20 years
“To me, I think that scientific community has lost its way over, over the last few decades... And to be honest, I think over the last, you know, 15 or 20 years, I think science has been deeply and deeply politicized, and we no longer are asking sort of the very…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 3:00 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Assertion Contradicted
Kratsios: 25% of Biden-Era NSF Grants Went to DEI Initiatives
“Senator Ted Cruz and the committee on at, on, in the Senate did an analysis of the grants that were given during the Biden administration. And they found that roughly one quarter Where, 25% of grants at NSF during that time period went towards DEI-related quot…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 7:27 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Opinion
Kratsios: Data Shows Climate Is Changing but Not an Emergency
“And what he has advocated for very publicly and has said many, many times, is that, yes, the climate is changing, and like, yes, you know humans have burned fossil fuels over the last hundred years, and that has contributed to CO₂ in the environment. The thing…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 8:56 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2030
Kratsios: US will return to Moon and deploy space reactor by 2028
“We're going to have American boots back on the moon in 28. We said we're going to have a nuclear reactor in space by 28. We're going to have the first elements of a moon base by twenty-thirty. These are like big, bold bets that take a decade to accomplish, and…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 23:32 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Opinion
Kratsios: AI will be the biggest unlock for science in history
“We fundamentally believe that AI is going to be the biggest unlock to scientific discovery in the history of the world. Whether you're in material science, whether you're in chemistry, whether you're in math, whether you're in physics, you know, applying AI to…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 24:28 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Assertion Supported
Kratsios: China has achieved no EUV lithography breakthrough since 2019
“They have been trying to essentially figure out how to do EV lithography since, since we put the export controls in 2019, no breakthrough has happened.”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 27:52 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Disclosure
Kratsios: Science grants will fund researchers in garages, not just universities
“We should meet the best scientists wherever they are. If they're at a university, we should fund them. If they're at a focused research organization, we should fund them. If they're on their own in their garage doing incredible work and can pass a merit-based …”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 33:30 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Assertion Contradicted
Kratsios: 70% of US STEM PhD Candidates Are Non-American
“The idea that, you know, seven out of 10 STEM-related PhD candidates in the United States are not American.”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 41:28 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Assertion Supported
Kratsios: NSF Stopped Funding Programs for Gifted STEM Students
“We used to have programs at National Science Foundation that would actually support and encourage gifted and talented students in American high schools and middle schools. Those were stopped. For some reason, encouraging high-performing young students to pursu…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 41:53 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Assertion Contradicted
Kratsios: Median age of NIH intramural researchers is 71 years old
“The median age of an intramural researcher at NIH is 71 years old.”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 49:33 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Disclosure
Kratsios: Administration Sets 2035 Target to Win Fusion Race
“We set a target for 20 35, for example, for that. We have been one of the most forwardly administrations in the history of this country on nuclear energy, and we're trying to get that up to speed and running and supplying energy for Americans as soon as humanl…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 11:00 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Disclosure
Kratsios: US is setting up meta-science units at NSF and NIH
“We're setting up meta science units both at NSF and at NIH where we're actually going to start running experiments. Maybe there are different ways that we should be doing funding, and then we can analyze those and then course correct and direct money towards p…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 16:34 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios
Insight
Kratsios: State-by-state AI regulations harm startups and favor tech incumbents
“The patchwork is actually most detrimental to early stage young companies and entrepreneurs. If you want to develop a new AI technology, if you want to build something on top of one of our great frontier models, having to figure out how to navigate 50 differen…”
Michael Kratsios Jan 23, 2026 ▶ 4:12 Inside America’s AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kratsios: Huawei captured global telecom markets using subsidies despite having subpar tech
“When Huawei first started their sort of global export push they certainly were not the very best technology in the world. They were current, they were certainly, you know, subpar compared to Ericsson and Nokia, yet they were good enough and they were subsidize…”
Michael Kratsios Jan 23, 2026 ▶ 28:02 Inside America’s AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition
Assertion Contradicted
Kratsios: The EU AI Act was passed before ChatGPT was even invented
“The EU AI act, which has been so detrimental to the AI ecosystem here, here in Europe was passed before chat GPT was even invented.”
Michael Kratsios Jan 23, 2026 ▶ 42:05 Inside America’s AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kratsios: AI could help double US research and development output by 2036
“So that's kind of the dream that I have, that ultimately we as a country can almost double our R and D output over the next 10 years because of AI.”
Michael Kratsios Jan 23, 2026 ▶ 17:16 Inside America’s AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kratsios: Few nations have capital or aspiration to develop frontier AI models
“Outside of the US, China, and maybe a few other countries, most countries around the world do not have the capital or the aspiration to do large scale training runs or development of their own frontier models.”
Michael Kratsios Jan 23, 2026 ▶ 33:15 Inside America’s AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition
Assertion Supported
Kratsios: US R&D funding shifted from 70% federal to 70% private
“Roughly 70% of R&D was paid for by the U.S. Government. About 30 was in the private sector. What has happened over the last 70 years was there's been this dramatic shift. Now roughly 70% of R&D is done by the private sector, and 30 is funded by the federal gov…”
Michael Kratsios Aug 24, 2026 ▶ 31:08 Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Kratsios

The other half of the tape: Michael Kratsios's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 22 times in 7 episodes on All-In. 1 statement on the record names them. every mention, with the transcript →

Who brings them up most David Friedberg 11Eric Weinstein 4David Sacks 3Donald J. Trump 2Jason Calacanis 1Jared Isaacman 1

Statements about Michael Kratsios, by other people (1)

Disclosure
Weinstein meets with OSTP and NIH officials on science policy reform
“Been talking to director Kratzios over at OSTP and The White House Science Advisor. Fantastic meeting. Been talking to Jay Bhattacharya, who's an old friend over at NIH. About to talk to Jim O'Neill, who's hopefully coming into NSF. And really just taking a lo…”
Eric Weinstein Aug 27, 2026 ▶ 1:50 Eric Weinstein: The State of American Science, Breakthrough Coverups, and the Danger of Physics

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2026 16 mentions in 3 episodes 5 per episode
2025 6 mentions in 4 episodes 2 per episode

Appearances (3)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Inside Trump's Science Agenda: Anti-Science Claims, Fauci's Damage, DEI & China w/ Michael Aug 24, 2026 31m
Inside America’s AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition Jan 23, 2026 13m
Winning the AI Race Part 1: Michael Kratsios, Kelly Loeffler, Shyam Sankar, Chris Power Jul 23, 2025 4m
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