Q Let's, uh, transition to Alibaba for a second. It's an incredible journey, you and Jack Ma, and the whole story has its, I mean, it's written in books, and there's just tremendous lore, but can you take us back to your mindset? I mean, I think we've heard, it's well documented, Jack's mindset, but how you got involved, what you were thinking in that moment, the risk you were taking,
A I was just mesmerized by Jack's personality. Uh, every, uh, people see the public side of Jack, which is very charismatic, but what I saw was he was able to instill faith in people. I mean, he had a, when I walked into his apartment, there were, like, 12 to 15 sort of very young people. Roughly, you know, uh, students that were just coming out of college, and Jack was kind of the teacher that's 10 years older. And he's able to communicate. He's able to paint a, a very strong vision. Uh, that was the part that I really signed on to. His ability to lead is an amazing ability. And, you know, he's a teacher, uh, by training. He taught at Zhejiang University. He taught English, actually. You know, teachers in a way make, uh, natural leaders, uh, because they, you have to communicate well. And B, you can identify talent. I think a lot of teachers love to see their students and say, oh, this kid is gonna do really well, so they write a recommendation, they do whatever. And also, teachers are, have enough humility that they're willing, they're very happy if their students go off and then they come back and become more successful than they are. And in a company, in building a company, you need to be able to Accommodate all sorts of people that are smarter than you are, and that's, that's really important.
AI assessment note: “I was just mesmerized by Jack's personality.”