Jun 12, 2026 · 1h 7m · allin

All-In's Best Ideas Pitch Competition: 4 Investors Present Their Top Trades Live

Dan Dreyfus · 12m spoken Kyle Samani · 9m spoken Aaron Cowan · 8m spoken Oleg Noodleman · 8m spoken Chamath Palihapitiya · 6m spoken David Friedberg · 5m spoken Gavin Baker · 4m spoken Jason Calacanis · 3m spoken
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Hosted at the Liquidity Summit 2026, the All-In Podcast team brings together four top fund managers to pitch their highest-conviction investment ideas live on stage. Across biotechnology, power infrastructure, casino resorts, and decentralized hardware networks, the presenters face intense panel Q&A before audience and judge votes crown the ultimate winners.

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Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. The hosts hold 26.7% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

The hosts as informed peer 4.6 Guest teaching 3.0 Guest disagreement 1.0 The hosts pushing back 3.6
05100:0015:0030:0045:001:00:002:29–13:03 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Pitch 1: Aaron Cowen Presents MGM Resorts Chamath poses sharp questions regarding MGM's international licensing challenges in Dubai and why public markets ignored the Osaka casino approval since 2023. Aaron Cowan effectively clarifies the catalyst timeline and option value of Dubai without becoming defensive.13:03–27:17 · The hosts as informed peer 5/10 Pitch 2: Dan Dreyfus Presents Talen Energy Chamath relays technical audience questions regarding behind-the-meter co-location, alternative power competition, and re-rating multiple mechanics. Dan Dreyfus articulately walks through the free cash flow scenarios and 15x rule-of-thumb multiples for contracted infrastructure.27:17–40:19 · The hosts as informed peer 7/10 Pitch 3: Oleg Nodelman Presents Aktis Oncology David Friedberg demonstrates strong domain expertise by citing the Amgen-Sanofi Supreme Court precedent on composition-of-matter patents to challenge China replication risks. Oleg Nodelman educates the panel on Actinium radioisotope supply chain constraints stemming from US legacy nuclear programs.40:20–48:35 · The hosts as informed peer 0/10 Pitch Presentation: Kyle Samani on GEODNET This segment is a uninterrupted pitch presentation monologue by guest Kyle Samani detailing GEODNET's decentralized RTK network architecture. As a monologue without host participation, all host scores are set to zero.48:35–54:51 · The hosts as informed peer 7/10 Q&A Panel: GEODNET Pitch Evaluation Friedberg leverages his background running Precision Planting to question why manufacturers like John Deere would adopt GEODNET and argues LEO microsatellite meshes could render ground stations obsolete. Samani holds his ground, arguing space-based solutions cannot match ground stations on cost or power consumption.54:51–1:04:38 · The hosts as informed peer 7/10 Judges' Deliberations and Pitch Evaluation The panel of hosts and guest judge Gavin Baker conduct an internal debate evaluating valuation metrics, regulatory risks for power, interest rate sensitivity, and position sizing across all four pitches. No pitch guest is active during this segment.1:04:38–1:07:47 · The hosts as informed peer 1/10 Awards Presentation and Pitch Competition Winners This concluding segment covers comedy bits around the trophy presentation and the announcement of audience and host votes. There is no substantive technical debate or conflict.2:29–13:03 · Guest teaching 4/10 Pitch 1: Aaron Cowen Presents MGM Resorts Chamath poses sharp questions regarding MGM's international licensing challenges in Dubai and why public markets ignored the Osaka casino approval since 2023. Aaron Cowan effectively clarifies the catalyst timeline and option value of Dubai without becoming defensive.13:03–27:17 · Guest teaching 5/10 Pitch 2: Dan Dreyfus Presents Talen Energy Chamath relays technical audience questions regarding behind-the-meter co-location, alternative power competition, and re-rating multiple mechanics. Dan Dreyfus articulately walks through the free cash flow scenarios and 15x rule-of-thumb multiples for contracted infrastructure.27:17–40:19 · Guest teaching 6/10 Pitch 3: Oleg Nodelman Presents Aktis Oncology David Friedberg demonstrates strong domain expertise by citing the Amgen-Sanofi Supreme Court precedent on composition-of-matter patents to challenge China replication risks. Oleg Nodelman educates the panel on Actinium radioisotope supply chain constraints stemming from US legacy nuclear programs.40:20–48:35 · Guest teaching 1/10 Pitch Presentation: Kyle Samani on GEODNET This segment is a uninterrupted pitch presentation monologue by guest Kyle Samani detailing GEODNET's decentralized RTK network architecture. As a monologue without host participation, all host scores are set to zero.48:35–54:51 · Guest teaching 5/10 Q&A Panel: GEODNET Pitch Evaluation Friedberg leverages his background running Precision Planting to question why manufacturers like John Deere would adopt GEODNET and argues LEO microsatellite meshes could render ground stations obsolete. Samani holds his ground, arguing space-based solutions cannot match ground stations on cost or power consumption.54:51–1:04:38 · Guest teaching 0/10 Judges' Deliberations and Pitch Evaluation The panel of hosts and guest judge Gavin Baker conduct an internal debate evaluating valuation metrics, regulatory risks for power, interest rate sensitivity, and position sizing across all four pitches. No pitch guest is active during this segment.1:04:38–1:07:47 · Guest teaching 0/10 Awards Presentation and Pitch Competition Winners This concluding segment covers comedy bits around the trophy presentation and the announcement of audience and host votes. There is no substantive technical debate or conflict.2:29–13:03 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Pitch 1: Aaron Cowen Presents MGM Resorts Chamath poses sharp questions regarding MGM's international licensing challenges in Dubai and why public markets ignored the Osaka casino approval since 2023. Aaron Cowan effectively clarifies the catalyst timeline and option value of Dubai without becoming defensive.13:03–27:17 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Pitch 2: Dan Dreyfus Presents Talen Energy Chamath relays technical audience questions regarding behind-the-meter co-location, alternative power competition, and re-rating multiple mechanics. Dan Dreyfus articulately walks through the free cash flow scenarios and 15x rule-of-thumb multiples for contracted infrastructure.27:17–40:19 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Pitch 3: Oleg Nodelman Presents Aktis Oncology David Friedberg demonstrates strong domain expertise by citing the Amgen-Sanofi Supreme Court precedent on composition-of-matter patents to challenge China replication risks. Oleg Nodelman educates the panel on Actinium radioisotope supply chain constraints stemming from US legacy nuclear programs.40:20–48:35 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Pitch Presentation: Kyle Samani on GEODNET This segment is a uninterrupted pitch presentation monologue by guest Kyle Samani detailing GEODNET's decentralized RTK network architecture. As a monologue without host participation, all host scores are set to zero.48:35–54:51 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Q&A Panel: GEODNET Pitch Evaluation Friedberg leverages his background running Precision Planting to question why manufacturers like John Deere would adopt GEODNET and argues LEO microsatellite meshes could render ground stations obsolete. Samani holds his ground, arguing space-based solutions cannot match ground stations on cost or power consumption.54:51–1:04:38 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Judges' Deliberations and Pitch Evaluation The panel of hosts and guest judge Gavin Baker conduct an internal debate evaluating valuation metrics, regulatory risks for power, interest rate sensitivity, and position sizing across all four pitches. No pitch guest is active during this segment.1:04:38–1:07:47 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Awards Presentation and Pitch Competition Winners This concluding segment covers comedy bits around the trophy presentation and the announcement of audience and host votes. There is no substantive technical debate or conflict.2:29–13:03 · The hosts pushing back 4/10 Pitch 1: Aaron Cowen Presents MGM Resorts Chamath poses sharp questions regarding MGM's international licensing challenges in Dubai and why public markets ignored the Osaka casino approval since 2023. Aaron Cowan effectively clarifies the catalyst timeline and option value of Dubai without becoming defensive.13:03–27:17 · The hosts pushing back 3/10 Pitch 2: Dan Dreyfus Presents Talen Energy Chamath relays technical audience questions regarding behind-the-meter co-location, alternative power competition, and re-rating multiple mechanics. Dan Dreyfus articulately walks through the free cash flow scenarios and 15x rule-of-thumb multiples for contracted infrastructure.27:17–40:19 · The hosts pushing back 6/10 Pitch 3: Oleg Nodelman Presents Aktis Oncology David Friedberg demonstrates strong domain expertise by citing the Amgen-Sanofi Supreme Court precedent on composition-of-matter patents to challenge China replication risks. Oleg Nodelman educates the panel on Actinium radioisotope supply chain constraints stemming from US legacy nuclear programs.40:20–48:35 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Pitch Presentation: Kyle Samani on GEODNET This segment is a uninterrupted pitch presentation monologue by guest Kyle Samani detailing GEODNET's decentralized RTK network architecture. As a monologue without host participation, all host scores are set to zero.48:35–54:51 · The hosts pushing back 7/10 Q&A Panel: GEODNET Pitch Evaluation Friedberg leverages his background running Precision Planting to question why manufacturers like John Deere would adopt GEODNET and argues LEO microsatellite meshes could render ground stations obsolete. Samani holds his ground, arguing space-based solutions cannot match ground stations on cost or power consumption.54:51–1:04:38 · The hosts pushing back 5/10 Judges' Deliberations and Pitch Evaluation The panel of hosts and guest judge Gavin Baker conduct an internal debate evaluating valuation metrics, regulatory risks for power, interest rate sensitivity, and position sizing across all four pitches. No pitch guest is active during this segment.1:04:38–1:07:47 · The hosts pushing back 0/10 Awards Presentation and Pitch Competition Winners This concluding segment covers comedy bits around the trophy presentation and the announcement of audience and host votes. There is no substantive technical debate or conflict.

speaking balance: gold is the hosts, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · the hosts 54.2% · guest 45.8%0:00 · the hosts 54.2% · guest 45.8%3:00 · the hosts 1.7% · guest 98.3%3:00 · the hosts 1.7% · guest 98.3%6:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%6:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%9:00 · the hosts 32.1% · guest 67.9%9:00 · the hosts 32.1% · guest 67.9%12:00 · the hosts 3.4% · guest 96.6%12:00 · the hosts 3.4% · guest 96.6%15:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%15:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%18:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%18:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%21:00 · the hosts 1.5% · guest 98.5%21:00 · the hosts 1.5% · guest 98.5%24:00 · the hosts 27.4% · guest 72.6%24:00 · the hosts 27.4% · guest 72.6%27:00 · the hosts 5.2% · guest 94.8%27:00 · the hosts 5.2% · guest 94.8%30:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%30:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%33:00 · the hosts 20.2% · guest 79.8%33:00 · the hosts 20.2% · guest 79.8%36:00 · the hosts 24.2% · guest 75.8%36:00 · the hosts 24.2% · guest 75.8%39:00 · the hosts 20.2% · guest 79.8%39:00 · the hosts 20.2% · guest 79.8%42:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%42:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%45:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%45:00 · the hosts 0% · guest 100%48:00 · the hosts 36.5% · guest 63.5%48:00 · the hosts 36.5% · guest 63.5%51:00 · the hosts 65.7% · guest 34.3%51:00 · the hosts 65.7% · guest 34.3%54:00 · the hosts 75.2% · guest 24.8%54:00 · the hosts 75.2% · guest 24.8%57:00 · the hosts 20.2% · guest 79.8%57:00 · the hosts 20.2% · guest 79.8%1:00:00 · the hosts 75.9% · guest 24.1%1:00:00 · the hosts 75.9% · guest 24.1%1:03:00 · the hosts 98.4% · guest 1.6%1:03:00 · the hosts 98.4% · guest 1.6%1:06:00 · the hosts 91.3% · guest 8.7%1:06:00 · the hosts 91.3% · guest 8.7%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 50:15 Kyle Samani rejects DePIN token failure premise

Samani forcefully dismisses the notion that GEODNET fits the pattern of failed DePIN token projects, arguing it is an unbelievably cheap cash-flow asset being mispriced by a crypto bear market.

Hardest push from the hosts ▶ 52:26 David Friedberg pushes microsatellites over RTK base stations

Friedberg directly challenges the long-term viability of GEODNET's core physical architecture, asking why Earth-based base stations will not be completely washed out by emerging LEO satellite networks.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 34:45 Oleg Nodelman explains nuclear waste radioisotope moats

Nodelman educates Friedberg on why China cannot easily replicate Actis' radiopharmaceuticals, revealing that Actinium is a byproduct of 1950s American nuclear defense programs unavailable overseas.

The host holds their own ▶ 51:30 David Friedberg cites Precision Planting background on ag tech

Friedberg demonstrates sharp domain authority by citing his experience managing Precision Planting in agriculture to query why incumbents with native RTK infrastructure would switch to GEODNET.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicThe hosts as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementThe hosts pushing backWhy
Pitch 1: Aaron Cowen Presents MGM Resorts 5414 Chamath poses sharp questions regarding MGM's international licensing challenges in Dubai and why public markets ignored the Osaka casino approval since 2023. Aaron Cowan effectively clarifies the catalyst timeline and option value of Dubai without becoming defensive.
Pitch 2: Dan Dreyfus Presents Talen Energy 5513 Chamath relays technical audience questions regarding behind-the-meter co-location, alternative power competition, and re-rating multiple mechanics. Dan Dreyfus articulately walks through the free cash flow scenarios and 15x rule-of-thumb multiples for contracted infrastructure.
Pitch 3: Oleg Nodelman Presents Aktis Oncology 7626 David Friedberg demonstrates strong domain expertise by citing the Amgen-Sanofi Supreme Court precedent on composition-of-matter patents to challenge China replication risks. Oleg Nodelman educates the panel on Actinium radioisotope supply chain constraints stemming from US legacy nuclear programs.
Pitch Presentation: Kyle Samani on GEODNET 0100 This segment is a uninterrupted pitch presentation monologue by guest Kyle Samani detailing GEODNET's decentralized RTK network architecture. As a monologue without host participation, all host scores are set to zero.
Q&A Panel: GEODNET Pitch Evaluation 7537 Friedberg leverages his background running Precision Planting to question why manufacturers like John Deere would adopt GEODNET and argues LEO microsatellite meshes could render ground stations obsolete. Samani holds his ground, arguing space-based solutions cannot match ground stations on cost or power consumption.
Judges' Deliberations and Pitch Evaluation 7005 The panel of hosts and guest judge Gavin Baker conduct an internal debate evaluating valuation metrics, regulatory risks for power, interest rate sensitivity, and position sizing across all four pitches. No pitch guest is active during this segment.
Awards Presentation and Pitch Competition Winners 1000 This concluding segment covers comedy bits around the trophy presentation and the announcement of audience and host votes. There is no substantive technical debate or conflict.

Statements from this episode (20)

Assertion Partly supported
Cowan: Barry Diller owns 26% of MGM and bid $48 per share
“Barry now owns 26% of the company. Now I put this presentation together two weeks ago. Yesterday he actually bid for the company. Okay. So when I put the presentation together, the stock was about 37 dollars. It's now high forties. He bid 48 dollars, ok?”
Aaron Cowan Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 4:00
Assertion Partly supported
Cowan: MGM Resorts repurchased half its public share float in six years
“Rarely have I ever seen a company in six years buy half their float back.”
Aaron Cowan Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 4:35
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Cowan: MGM stock is a triple based on Vegas, Japan, Dubai assets
“So, when you take the Vegas assets, which we think are worth about 60. When you take Japan, which we think is worth about 50 bucks. If Dubai happens, that's worth another 40 or 50 dollars. So, we think the stock is a triple.”
Aaron Cowan Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 8:45
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dreyfus: US power markets will remain incredibly tight without AI
“We do not need AI demand to keep the power markets incredibly tight for the next 20 years. AI demand just turbocharges That's all it does, and it creates shortages, so just remember that.”
Dan Dreyfus Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 14:58
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dreyfus: Talen Energy trades at $25B EV versus $45B asset replacement cost
“Today, in the stock market, as a good speculation, you could purchase this company at a twenty-five billion dollar enterprise value. The replacement cost is forty-five billion, and because they've got debt, it means that the equity value, ah, just to get to re…”
Dan Dreyfus Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 16:10
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2029
Dreyfus: Talen Energy will generate $50 per share free cash flow
“If they just do absolutely nothing, Just absolutely nothing. Just sit there and run the business. Let their Amazon data center contract roll up. These guys will be generating 50 dollars a share of free cash flow per year.”
Dan Dreyfus Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 21:50
Assertion Supported
Nodelman: Aktis Oncology's IPO was 18x oversubscribed, backstopped by Eli Lilly
“Actis was started five years ago, but recently went public with a three hundred million dollar IPO that was 18 times oversubscribed, and backstopped with a hundred million dollar order by Eli Lilly, the folks who bring you all the weight loss drugs.”
Oleg Noodleman Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 31:38
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Nodelman: Aktis Oncology could reach a $10B valuation if one program succeeds
“We think Actis could be worth ten billion or 200 dollars per share if even one of their programs makes it to market, and in this case, you have a lot of outs.”
Oleg Noodleman Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 34:33
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Nodelman: Average human lifespan in developed countries will exceed 100 years
“I would take the over on that.”
Oleg Noodleman Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 37:49
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2027
Samani: GEODNET revenue will more than triple in the next 12 months
“In terms of where the business at, the business just crossed about eleven million dollars in annualized run rate a few days ago. And it's growing more than three X year over year. I think it's gonna probably more than triple over the next 12 months.”
Kyle Samani Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 46:24
Assertion Supported
Samani: GEODNET uses 80% of its revenue to buy back tokens
“So today the GeoNet network is taking, of that eleven million in revenue, roughly excuse me, 80% of it is being used to make open market purchases of Geo tokens. And this is all visible on the Solana blockchain. They have all the addresses are published and st…”
Kyle Samani Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 46:40
Assertion Partly supported
Samani: GEODNET trades at a $150M fully diluted market cap
“It's trading about a hundred and fifty million on a fully diluted basis.”
Kyle Samani Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 48:40
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2031
Samani: Satellite networks cannot compete on cost with GEODNET ground stations
“There's no chance they can compete on cost, because just sending things to space, satellites, that's so, I mean, these GeoNet base stations are a few hundred bucks. Like, you're just not gonna compete on cost with GeoNet.”
Kyle Samani Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 52:59
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Samani: Crypto projects focused on distributed AI training will not work
“The distributed training stuff, there's a whole bunch of people trying it. I, I'm pretty skeptical. I don't think any of it's going to work.”
Kyle Samani Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 54:13
Opinion
Baker: MGM Resorts offers the best risk/reward among pitched trades
“From a pure risk award perspective, I thought MGM was the best. Your downside is really capped because of the Barry Diller bid, and then you have Japan and Dubai as, I think, very valuable future sources of value.”
Gavin Baker Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 58:12
Insight
Baker: Broadly applicable biotech platforms produce rare $100B+ outcomes
“If you ever get a biotech company that can become a platform and they have a mechanism, whether it's of drugging, whether it's targeting, if you have something that is broadly applicable, that is when you can get these really, really big hundred billion dollar…”
Gavin Baker Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 59:33
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Friedberg: Venetian makes $1M incremental EBITDA per Sphere show day
“They're making a million bucks a day and incremental EBITDA every day that they have a show at the sphere at the at the Venetian hotel”
David Friedberg Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 1:01:19
Prediction Open · timeframe Jun 2036
Friedberg: Space systems will replace all RTK and GPS in next decade
“I just think the space thing is, is likely the path that's gonna replace all RTK and all GPS in the next decade.”
David Friedberg Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 1:03:11
Assertion Supported
Dan Dreyfus wins audience vote at All-In Pitch Competition
“With 24% of the vote, in second place, Aaron Cowan for MGM. Number one with 50% of the vote. Dan Dreyfus.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 1:06:36
Assertion Supported
Aaron Cowan wins judges' vote at All-In Pitch Competition
“Fourth place was Kyle Simani. Okay. Third place was Oleg. Second place, Dan Dreyfus. First place, Aaron Cowan.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 1:07:24
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