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Sam Lessin: Elon Musk and Sam Altman deliberately lie to motivate followers
“I think that Elon and Sam Altman lie, right? I think they say things they know to not be true, to Get people to do things. Right. And like, go on like with them. I just believe that from what I've seen, like, I think they're both way too smart to believe what …”
Sam Lessin Aug 22, 2025 ▶ 26:27 #113 GPT-5 Disappoints: The End of the AI Gold Rush? · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2031
Sam Lessin: A novel virus will definitely be invented using AI
“The main fear is that a novel virus is, you know, invented, and then crispered, and we have serious problems. Which will definitely happen.”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 16:35 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: AI labs seeking regulatory capture is cynical and anti-American
“I think it's very cynical for these companies to even try to switch the field of play from business to politics, right? Like, I think that's a very cynical, anti-American thing to do, to be like, okay, we're not going to play and compete in capitalism in a fai…”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 21:49 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: AI eliminates Silicon Valley's advantage over New York finance workers
“I'd actually argue the average person in Silicon Valley is not as smart as like the average person in New York finance, right? They're not the best marketers. They're not the best at anything. The advantage in Silicon Valley was actually knowing how to write t…”
Sam Lessin Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 32:44 Apple, OpenAI & Why Nobody Makes Money in AI | The SaaS Apocalypse · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: The pro-Palestinian movement is winning the memetic information war
“Well, I think the most successful information warfare mimetic war right now is actually being won by, like, the pro-Palestinian crowd.”
Sam Lessin Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 49:14 #116 iPhone Air or Pro: Apple Ignores AI and Wins? · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Backing founders with small children is generally a bad idea
“Parents of small children that is generally a bad idea. Not always, but generally a bad idea to back parents of small children.”
Sam Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 39:18 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin calls VCs the least sophisticated financiers on the planet
“I actually think that venture capitalists are probably the least sophisticated financiers, like on the planet. They just have hope, right? Like it's the only hopeful version of finance, right? Because it is like, you know, you're basically investing in people …”
Sam Lessin Aug 1, 2025 ▶ 18:33 #110 Meta's Billion-Dollar Hires: Bubble or Genius? · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: AI Is a Terrible Business with Almost No Monetizable Patterns
“I think the answer is almost none of them, and I think AI is a terrible business.”
Sam Lessin May 2, 2025 ▶ 18:36 How OpenAI Is Beating Google and Meta at Their Own Game · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Held up
Sam Lessin: People Will Kill Themselves and Others Because of AIs
“And like, at some point people are going to start killing themselves and each other because of AIs.”
Sam Lessin May 2, 2025 ▶ 43:58 How OpenAI Is Beating Google and Meta at Their Own Game · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: OpenAI obviously stole O'Reilly Safari books to train models
“I think I saw this thing about Tim O'Reilly saying like, it's pretty obvious that like they stole all the proprietary information from Safari and like their books to like build it. And it's like, it's total. I'm sure it's true. We all know that they stole ever…”
Sam Lessin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 11:20 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
TBPN Opinion
Lessin: Whenever SoftBank buys, you sell; they are the worst investors
“Whenever SoftBank buys, you sell. Right. Like they are the worst investors in the history of the world. Right. And so it's just like, I've watched them crush so many companies by over capitalizing them by get, they're like, you know, they, it's hilarious. I lo…”
Sam Lessin Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 7:59 Sam Lessin on Meta, Artificial Intelligence, and Investing in Creators.
TBPN Insight
Lessin: VR Appeals Primarily to People Whose Real Lives Are Unfulfilling
“Like, I think the reality is like VR and like immersive experiences and all other realities are kind of great if your life sucks, right? Because then you're like, I'm gonna like live in a video game. But like, I think a lot of the problem with that type of stu…”
Sam Lessin Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 15:42 Sam Lessin on Meta, Artificial Intelligence, and Investing in Creators.
MORE OR LESS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: I didn't rug anything on Jelly Jelly
“I didn't rug anything.”
Sam Lessin Feb 7, 2025 ▶ 44:25 #85: The $250M Meme Coin Experiment · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: SoftBank is probably the worst investor in history
“Probably the worst investors in history. We've lost so much money in valuable companies because of SoftBank.”
Sam Lessin Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 14:37 #83: Trump Inauguration, Stargate, and the Meme Economy · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Men dominate top leadership because they are higher-beta risk-takers
“Because men have nothing to lose and are worthless, and therefore are very high beta, right? Like, it's just like, you just get more, like, the dumbest people in the world are men, and some of the smartest are. The highest risk takers are men. Guess what? It t…”
Sam Lessin Jan 17, 2025 ▶ 16:03 #82: TikTok, Trade Wars & Tech 2.0 · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Google has never had a high-performance culture
“Yes, Google has not had a high performance culture Like ever.”
Sam Lessin Aug 16, 2024 ▶ 3:41 #60: Body Futurism and Why Gen Z is Ditching Tech · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Google invented tech's low-work engineer culture
“So like this idea that it's work from home, Google invented the low work engineer culture.”
Sam Lessin Aug 16, 2024 ▶ 4:28 #60: Body Futurism and Why Gen Z is Ditching Tech · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Lessin predicts OpenAI equity value is headed to zero
“Guys, I've been saying OpenAI zero the entire time. And I'm gonna keep saying it.”
Sam Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 24:30 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI Startups Will Yield Zero Value and Go Bankrupt
“And so if you're someone like me, who's in the camp of this is a great disruptive Business technology, and zero dollars will accrue to startups, and they're all going bankrupt. I am now a zealot for no fucking way, right?”
Sam Lessin Apr 26, 2024 ▶ 32:41 #44: The $1B AI Girlfriend Market, the Tech Hedge Fund Fallout and Why VCs Can’t Quit AI · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Most media business talent are 'B-players' and not talented
“You have the media business talent, which with a few exceptions, I have to say that because there are some people I like, they're bees, right? They're not very talented.”
Sam Lessin Apr 12, 2024 ▶ 25:46 #42: OpenAI, IP Theft and a New Incentive Structure for the Internet · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: The AI revolution is fake outside of narrow applications
“I don't think the AI, I think the AI revolution is fake. We all know this.”
Sam Lessin Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 2:36 #37: TikTok's Latest Crisis, Elon's Emails, AI Monopolies · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Didn’t hold up
Sam Lessin: Solana will surpass Ethereum in market capitalization
“I think Solana flips Ethereum.”
Sam Lessin Dec 22, 2023 ▶ 1:02:48 #28: What We Got Right and Wrong in ’23 and Calls for ’24 · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Operational 'number twos' are always expendable
“Those number twos are always expendable. They have to be.”
Sam Lessin Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 27:04 #20: The New Founder Mindset: The End of the Product-Focused CEO · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: LLMs have only two use cases: summarization and data laundering
“There really are two use cases. One is Dave's point, which is summarization, and the other is Brisk's case, which is data theft, right, and data laundering. Like, I agree those are the only use cases”
Sam Lessin Aug 18, 2023 ▶ 50:23 #10: You should kill your startup, What replaces globalization · More or Less Podcast
20VC Opinion
Lessin: Founders who ask VCs for help are weak
“Because I, if you're coming to me for help, my view is you're almost by definition, or you're saying, I need help or whatever I want help. I think you're a weak founder.”
Sam Lessin Aug 11, 2023 ▶ 44:28 DEBATE: State of Seed Investing w/ Jason Lemkin, Sam Lessin, Frank Rotman & Harry Stebbings | E1047 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Lessin: Big tech is better off cutting average nine-to-five engineers
“Most of like the line engineers and people who just kind of like, you know, show up in nine to five and crunch out small projects. They're just not that valuable and you're better off cutting them rather than doing whatever you possibly can to retain them.”
Sam Lessin Jul 31, 2023 ▶ 33:10 #7: Elon's X game and RIP seed investing · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Universal scripting makes AI models interoperable, destroying provider margins
“When you get down to a lower level, because you can no longer have on-off APIs, because everything is scriptable, because these things can script any interface and interact anyway, as long as you have data sovereignty, meaning like it's your data, they're all …”
Sam Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 23:19 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI labs are definitely stealing and training on user data
“Oh, no, to be clear, they're definitely stealing all my data as we go. There's no question about that.”
Sam Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 24:31 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Assertion Contradicted
Sam Lessin: Early Salesforce was unintegrated one-off software builds
“So the story I've heard, and someone can correct me in comments, I'm sure someone will, is that when he started Salesforce, it was billed as like this cloud CRM. And this platform, but it was total bullshit. He basically went to a bunch of people and sold them…”
Sam Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 41:12 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
AI model leads are insecure because switching costs are too low
“What matters is that no lead is secure. And projections don't mean anything, right? And so I think that's the real story is it's too easy to switch. Leads don't matter. It's going to be impossible to financially price any of this stuff.”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 30:44 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Global liquidity of AI models will drive prices to zero sustainable profit
“AI is globally liquid with no borders and is easy to transport. So you're going to get the lowest cost provider. There's no money to make.”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 33:24 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
SpaceX is priced like a meme stock driven by media headlines
“Like SpaceX is a meme. It's a great meme. It's an awesome meme. Like, SpaceX, like Moderna, has every ability to pop out headlines that people are going to go nuts for. But, you know, it isn't that dissimilar from a GME, not in that they don't do amazing thing…”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 36:03 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Traditional American pathways of hard work and schooling have run out
“Historically, if you were an IQ 100 person and worked hard, you'd do fine. If you had a shovel, then it was like, oh, just go to school, and you'll do fine, because there was so much demand for, like, intellectual jobs. Those stories have run out on the capita…”
Sam Lessin Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 40:02 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Late-stage VCs only accept steep discounts if spinouts retain AI upside
“The reason this never happens is because big fancy investors, not us lowly seed investors, but big fancy ones, have no interest in the write down, right? It's a massive write down, right, for them. And they'd rather just stick it on their books and pretend lik…”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 23:49 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Bending Spoons will milk enterprise contracts and cut support to zero
“These things have big enterprise contracts. They're going to like milk those. They're going to Like, hack the CS, the customer support teams to zero because they can consolidate it.”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 27:34 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Elon Musk priced SpaceX to bail out xAI and Twitter investors
“He bailed out his XAI people. He bailed out his Twitter people. He bailed everyone out, right? So Elon gets to be the guy who makes everyone money, and if you're a SpaceX shareholder, you're like, whatever, you kind of got robbed on a few things, but number bi…”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 46:49 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Frontier AI Researchers Suffer From Oppenheimer Complexes
“I think what it is, honestly, is, like, all of these people have Oppenheimer complexes and think they're working on the Manhattan Project, right?”
Sam Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 51:47 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Sam Lessin: OpenAI breach announcements are a cover for struggling revenue
“This is, all you know from this is that OpenAI is struggling on revenue growth. It's like, this is the AI move, is if you're struggling on revenue growth, you have to announce a security breach that sounds scary to support your stock price. Very simple.”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 10:01 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Countries attempting sovereign AI will fail and surrender control
“And what's gonna happen from conquest perspective, digital conquest, will be, like, a bunch of these countries will try that. It will go badly. Shit will start breaking. They'll be like, oh, shit, we need, like, the Americans. We need the, we need someone to c…”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 18:40 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Big Frontier AI Labs Are Economically 'Fucked'
“This isn't a technical commentary, but from like a business and economics perspective, I think all the big labs are fucked.”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 31:34 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Stripe Missed Trillion-Dollar Potential by Staying Private
“If they had gone public like a normal company a bajillion years ago, they could have been a truly important general generational company because they could have used the currency to buy everyone.”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 42:44 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Single-country AI regulation only protects incumbent market caps
“But, like, you taking any action as a single country does nothing, right? Like, and all it does is protect certain companies, right? And their market caps.”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 23:49 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: AI labs can only survive by creating regional monopolies
“This is, the business is multiplying large numbers. It's globally liquid. There's no natural barrier to it. It's not even, energy is more barriers than this because it's hard to ship energy, not hard to ship multiplication output. Same, on top of that, there's…”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 7:07 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Anthropic is winning the AI race, not OpenAI
“He's not a real company like Google or Open or Meta or someone who actually five percent is meaningful, and he's not even winning the pure AI race. It's an anthropic is.”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 8:35 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: OpenAI's government equity offer signals it is distressed
“But it is also, like, one of those things where, like, the only way we do this is for distressed situations. It's crazy for us to not do this, so they're distressed. They're distressed.”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 19:41 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Altman's government equity offer is damaging regulatory capture
“Sam Altman trying to give five percent of the government to the government for regulatory capture and all this politics is so bad, right? Because all of a sudden it makes the game not a fair and open game that at least you can play with rules. It becomes a gam…”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 25:49 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Frontier AI model companies are 'all f***ed'
“Like, I honestly don't care, which means these companies are all fucked.”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 45:48 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Elon Musk is the best financier of our generation
“I think the new line might be, love it or hate it, he's the best financier of our generation.”
Sam Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 2:30 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
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