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Papic: US asset outperformance driven by post-2020 fiscal spending is over
“It's the fiscal gravy train that gave us exceptionalism of the U.S. Asset flows from 20 20 to 20 25. That's over.”
Papic: Trump will likely moderate tariffs to 5-10% rather than 40%
“I think the response is going to be President Trump saying, I was actually going for five to 10% across the board of tariffs, not 40%. Once the market sniffs that out, I think it's very dangerous to be overly bearish on risk assets.”
Papic: The U.S. Is Starting to Trade Like an Emerging Market
“What's happening right now in the U.S., and I don't want to be too facetious or critical, but the U.S. Is starting to trade in many ways like an emerging market.”
Papic: Europe Will See a Tsunami of LNG Supply Disproving Deindustrialization
“Europe is going to be absolutely drowned in its tsunami wave of LNG supply that will crash on its shores over the next two years. This whole deindustrialization debate is wrong.”
Papic: Commodities offer the best downside portfolio protection in stagflation
“And ironically, I think the best downside risk protection is commodities, which is weird because commodities should be correlated to growth. So when growth suffers, commodities should suffer with them. That's not really a good hedge the way bonds were. But I t…”
Papic: China has peaked as a geopolitical power for the next decade
“So I think that China has peaked as a geopolitical power for the next decade.”
Papic: China will fail to transition away from export dependence
“I'm in a camp that says they're going to fail. They're not going to be able to do it, and they're going to remain as export dependent, if not more.”
Papic: China will run a current account deficit over the next decade
“Which means that over the next decade, China will also be in a current account deficit.”
Papic: The Ukraine war will cleave the Western alliance further, not unite NATO
“There's a view out there that this will help NATO unity. And I really don't think so, Ted. I think that this will actually cleave the Western alliance further.”
Papic: China's CCP legitimacy depends on living standards, not Taiwan
“The Chinese Communist Party can be a legitimate domestic political force without reunifying with Taiwan. We know that because they haven't, and they're legitimate. They continue to rule China. Whereas we don't know what would happen to the Chinese Communist Pa…”
Papic: Big Tech has likely peaked due to stroke-of-the-pen risk
“I just think that we're going to enter a period where stroke of pen risk is very high. And I don't think it's going to cause a collapse in prices, but I think this may be the apex and it's all downhill from here.”
Papic: Public market ESG is meaningless; real edge is in private markets
“Now, the problem I have, though, is that in the public markets, there's clearly this kind of rubber stamp of ESG that I think a lot of investors have already figured out is almost meaningless. Because you have these ESG indices that are like everybody but poor…”
Papic: Policy second derivatives matter more than data in policy-induced recessions
“In policy-induced recessions, what really matters is the second derivative in policy, not data.”
Papic: US Will Struggle to Bring 10-Year Yield Substantially Below 4%
“They're gonna struggle to bring the tenure substantively below four percent. I think three and a half is the best they could hope for, and that's just not enough, really, to restart some sort of re-leveraging of the private sector because American households d…”
Papic: U.S. Private Market Assets Are More Overbid Than Publics
“And obviously, if you want to talk about where U.S. Assets are massively overbid, I think privates are even worse than public.”
Papic: Trump will reach China deal, but US assets won't outperform
“I think if he gets a deal with China, which I think he will, I don't think that's good for US assets relative to the rest of the world.”
Papic: US stock market probably bottomed at 4800
“That's why I think we probably reached the bottom at 4800.”
Papic: Markets React to Rate of Change in Geopolitical Risk, Not Absolute Levels
“One of the things that I think is very important as investors start to incorporate politics and geopolitics more and more into their toolbox is just to understand that while you as a human being really cares about absolute levels of risk, the market is not hum…”
Papic: Escalation will trigger 1973-style commodity embargoes and stagflation
“And then you're going to start talking about embargoes of commodities, both self-imposed by Russia and perhaps imposed by the West. And then you're talking about inflationary impacts of this conflict being something akin to the 1973 Yom Kippur War, which is de…”
Papic: Imposing Russian regime change on Ukraine is an outright fantasy
“This idea that they're going to impose some sort of regime change, that's like straight out of a fantasy book that somebody read to Putin when he falls asleep. It makes no sense.”
Papic: The Federal Reserve will not risk a recession to curb inflation
“I think the That is extremely sensitive to the political risks domestically in the U S and they will not look to curb inflation at the risk of recession. I don't think they will, but I'm in that camp.”
Papic: There is basically no way the US will not get an Iran deal
“There's basically no way that we will not get an Iran deal.”
Papic: China's household debt exceeds the US relative to disposable income
“So if you look at household debt as percent of disposable income in China, it's higher than that of the U.S.”
Papic: Strategic Chinese tech and manufacturing will drive investor returns
“I do think strategic China will be the space where investors will have returns provided that it is legal for them to do that.”
Papic: China will remain dependent on semiconductor imports for the next decade
“China's trying its best to get to those sophisticated levels below five nanometer chip level, which it can't. And I think it's going to take a long time for them to do that. Much longer than people think. There's no Moore's law in getting to that level. And so…”
Papic: Building US chip fabs reduces Taiwan's strategic value
“When the United States of America starts building fabs in the US, it actually reduces the strategic value of Taiwan.”
Papic: China will be very cautious regarding Taiwan due to economic risks
“As I said, I think China is going to be very cautious. I think for China, this is not the moment To create a huge downside risk to its economy.”
Papic: Europe will remilitarize and integrate independently of the US umbrella
“I think what it means Is Europe is going to remilitarize. If you have the mandate on the ESG side, buy some European defense stocks, but don't expect it to do so within the US umbrella. And I think that European integration is actually going to be one of the c…”
Papic: Global markets are entering a resilient commodity super cycle
“We are at a cusp of a commodity super cycle, and a recession could obviously curtail that. It would waylay it, but not for a significant period of time.”
Papic: Volcker Defeated Inflation Due to Politics, Not Individual Competence
“Now, most investors will say it was Paul Volcker that did this, and I have a huge problem with that. There's no way that an academic No matter how freakishly tall they may be. There's no way that they get to crush inflation by inducing a recession and high une…”
Papic: Dollar will fall, yields rise, and global equities beat US
“Because if Biden or Trump wins from a macro perspective, I think dollars going down, I think ten-year yields are going up. I think U.S. Equities are going to do well, but I think global equities are going to do better. Commodities are also going to do extremel…”
Papic: US Will Not Sever Economic Relationship with China
“Eventually American policymakers realize this is a constraint, this is a huge constraint, that they cannot sever their economic relationship from China, because if they do, somebody else will pick up the benefits, the revenues.”
Papic: Bullish on emerging markets for the first time since 2011
“I'm bullish, and it's interesting because I've never been bullish on emerging markets since I joined financial industry, although I haven't been in the industry for that long, so it doesn't mean much, but from 2011 until this year, I've been very bearish”
Papic: Rewiring global supply chains is growth- and commodity-positive
“I think the rewiring of supply chains is growth positive. It's positive for commodities. You have to build new factories. You have to move stuff around.”
Papic: U.S.-China rivalry creates prime opportunities for African frontier markets
“I think that this great power competition between China and the U.S. And potentially other countries mixed in creates a really interesting environment for frontier markets like Africa, maybe some of the less developed countries in Latin America and Asia as wel…”
Papic: US assets would have peaked under Harris over four years instead
“I would argue that if Vice President Harris had won the election, we would be in the same boat in terms of the peak in U.S. Assets. We just wouldn't have as extraordinary of a sell-off. So what would have happened under Trump in 12 months would have probably h…”
Papic: Congress Will Not Revoke Trump's Tariff Authority
“You've got the House and the Senate talking about taking away tariff rights from President Trump. It's not going to happen, but they're talking.”
Papic: Only Two Emerging Market Macro Hedge Funds Exist Today
“There are two macro hedge funds dedicated to emerging markets today. Two of them. There's none doing commodities.”
Papic: Q1 2025 Asset Performance Trends Will Continue for Five Years
“If you just look at asset performance in January, February, and March, that is the truth. If you're a long-term capital allocator, go back, look at the performance January, February, March. That's the truth. You see who the winners and losers are, and that I t…”
Papic: Markets are pricing in a quick resolution to Russia's invasion
“The first scenario, just to be clear, is I think what the market is pricing right now, with market action being where it is.”
Papic: Green energy agenda will not be substantively reversed despite costs
“You have the green energy agenda, which I don't think is going to be reversed in a substantive way, despite the costs.”
Papic recommends a 'green-brown barbell' of fossil fuels and private green tech
“My message has been, you need a green, brown barbell portfolio. You want to be in the brownest of the brown stuff and then invest in green tech as much as you can, hopefully not in public markets. I prefer the privates for that space.”
Papic: The US and China are the only nations with Web 2.0 revolutions
“US and China are the only two countries that had this web two point O revolution. Europe doesn't have social media companies. Japan missed it completely.”
Papic: US cannot counter China effectively because allies will defect commercially
“For U.S., the constraint is that they can't build a coalition of the willing against China. If every country in the world is going to cheat, if France is going to sell airbuses, if America pulls back on Boeings, if that's what's going to happen, then there is …”
Papic: Political analysts do not understand market pricing or entry points
“So I think political analysis professionals don't understand the concept of priced in. They don't understand the concept of having a clear view that can be articulated in the markets. And you may have a very cogent and elegant and parsimonious view on why Pola…”
Papic: Boring academics yield better geopolitical insights than famous insiders
“I do encourage people to seek out experts and to seek out people who know, but quite often it's the technocrat. It's the academic who's been buried in an ivory tower for the past 30 years looking at this one issue. It's quite often the boring contact that will…”
Papic: Germany Bailed Out Greece to Prevent a Crippling Deutschmark Appreciation
“Say Germany during the Euro area crisis, highly expert reliant economy. If they had abandoned the Euro, the Deutschmark two point O would have appreciated 20, 3040, 50, 60%, and then bye-bye Germany. So hell yes, they're going to pay for Greek debt, like high …”