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Sauer: Giving equity to systems or operations hires is often a mistake
“Somebody who can do the systems, like there's a lot of people out there who would do that. They're usually not, they don't always have to be an equity person in your business. And oftentimes making them an equity person in your business is a mistake because th…”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 28:21 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Founders want capital or advice separately, rarely both together
“People want money or they want advice. They don't usually don't want advice with money or they don't want money with advice as a caveat to it.”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 8:42 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Private equity ignores acquisition targets valued under $10 million
“I think that honestly, until your evaluation is over eight figures. You're not even going to get to talk to those people. So I think that if you don't do those things, you're going to have a lower class of acquirer and that lower class of acquirer is probably …”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 16:07 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Previously under-rewarded founders are more likely to succeed again
“Usually it's if they've done it once, but then they either got screwed or had some major learnings, or they had only a small percentage of the sex successful company, and they're looking to do it on their own. That's usually something that I think can be a pre…”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 4:25 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Business strength drives agency multiples between 3x and 6x EBITDA
“It's not like they just say, Hey, you're five X a beta. It's ultimately the strength of your contracts, the strength of your client list when you're acquiring an agency and those things factor into it. And then it's, you know, just taking a turn on that, that …”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 17:32 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Replacing expensive hires with lower-cost staff raised agency valuation
“Cause I'm here to tell you that the expensive people actually, we didn't make any money those years. And at the end of the day, those expensive people weren't even there because they, once, once they left or naturally we didn't replace them, we replaced them w…”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 19:36 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Businesses under 15 employees only need offers, products, and systems
“With our profit school system, we basically think there's really three functions in a business until you're at 15 plus employees. And that's offers products and systems.”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 26:40 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
Sauer: Companies should hire dedicated operations staff by 20 employees
“Making that transition, it makes sense somewhere in your first 15 to 20 employees to get that going, if not sooner.”
Jeff Sauer Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 29:28 Cash Business vs. Wealth Business: Most Founders Mix Them Up
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