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20VC Insight
Lerner: Startups should pivot North Star metrics when value delivery shifts
“In the beginning, sometimes before product market fit, you're just still figuring out how you deliver value to customers. And when you learn that actually it's something fundamentally different, Then you might want to change your North Star.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 16:00 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Ask employees how their work impacts the North Star metric
“If you tell people things, they may or may not listen, but if you ask them questions, it forces them to think. So once I have it, explain the North Star to the whole team, I have each manager go around and ask each person, explain to me how your work impacts t…”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 17:57 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: There are only six primary customer acquisition channels available
“So it's kind of a false distinction, but there's really only like six channels in the world. If you think about how are the ways you find out about stuff, You hear from a salesperson, some partner brings you in to enable you to do something, you see some ads, …”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 23:14 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Startup growth is non-linear, characterized by sudden unexpected breakthroughs
“It's not like, you know, I mean, I see, I know you, you're a runner, like, it's not like you practice every day and you get a little bit better every day and after a year you've cut 30 seconds off your mile or whatever. It's like nothing, nothing, nothing, som…”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 25:25 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Effective landing page headlines complete the sentence "now you can"
“A good headline on a landing page completes the sentence, now you can. So I'm trying to do this, and oh, now you can, you know, close out your quarter in minutes, not, Days. Or whatever it is that they're trying to do.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 28:11 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Early growth hires only need 50% of required skills upfront
“Hire people, I say hire people who can do 50% of the hard things you need and figure out the other 90%.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 31:28 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Scientists excel in startups due to intellectual humility and curiosity
“Scientists are always aware of what they don't know. Unlike, you know, most people in most jobs, you're just always, you're wrong all the time. You're at these, you see these big gaps in humanity's understanding of whatever your discipline is. And you've got t…”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 33:58 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Weekly growth meeting cadences drive the pace of experimentation
“And on the other hand, because it's a weekly cadence, it pushes the pace. You're like, we have our meeting on Monday. I need to have my experiments done by then. And, you know, the cadence of experimentation and learning is critical.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 41:37 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lerner: Most startups track signups but ignore actual customer value
“Most people track Signups and conversions for their paid stuff, but they don't look at customer value.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 43:48 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Quick growth marketing wins provide one-time jumps, not continuous scale
“If your conversion goes from one percent to 10%, you're not gonna 10 x that number again. So that's where eventually you know, there's just no getting around kind of doing the fundamentals.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 44:18 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Startups cannot effectively optimize more than two growth loops simultaneously
“It's hard because the doubling down is really down in the trenches of a really tweaking and optimizing”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 47:55 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: Early-stage startups must turn the entire company into the growth team
“So in an early stage startup, I think there just comes a point where your company becomes the growth team, right? Like you go through fundraising, you go through building your product, and sort of the eye of Sauron turns, and it's like time to do growth, becau…”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 48:16 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Lerner: Screen growth hires for sociability to secure cross-team resources
“Like, you know, when I was hiring these brilliant scientists, the other trait I was screening for was sociability. And people who could just go make friends with the engineers, and the data scientists, and everybody, and just get stuff from people who didn't r…”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 48:52 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Lerner: B2B companies should adopt consumer-style multi-step onboarding funnels
“If you go to some of these sites like Calm or Noom, they have these long convoluted onboarding flows that do a really good job of roping people in Getting them through the whole kind of information journey and building intent. And that's a neat thing because i…”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 55:35 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Startup growth stems from continuous iteration, not silver bullet hacks
“If you look at any of those silver bullets, and actually, you know, the people, and you saw what happened, you realize it was the result of a lot of trying stuff, and failing, and iterating, and optimizing.”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 7:42 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
20VC Assertion Supported
Major tech companies scaled without traditional sales or marketing
“There's a bunch of companies like PayPal, Airbnb, Facebook, Hotmail, Twitter, LinkedIn, Dropbox, WhatsApp, Quora, Reddit. A bunch of companies who've gotten really big, really fast, without doing any traditional sales or marketing.”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 10:22 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Only two of 150 incoming 500 Startups companies properly tracked metrics
“Across the entire team at 500, we can maybe think of two companies who came in and they had the right metrics and they were tracking them properly.”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 14:38 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Sean Ellis coined the term 'growth hacker' while at Dropbox
“Sean Ellis invented the term when he worked at Dropbox”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 21:08 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
IN DEPTH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Smart Tales top-of-funnel repositioning lifted paywall conversion by 65%
“Once they improve the top of funnel, people got to the same old paywall and were 65% more likely to convert, had better retention, fewer returns, higher lifetime value.”
Matt Lerner Sep 26, 2024 ▶ 19:34 How to find & pull startup growth levers | Matt Lerner (Founder of SYSTM, Author of Growth Levers)
IN DEPTH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sonic Jobs doubled activation rates using specific job titles in emails
“And in their welcome email, they just changed it with the top specific jobs people wanted. And they put in 15 links, Amazon driver, you know, warehouse operative, this and that. And a lot of times it was the same job, just written in three different languages,…”
Matt Lerner Sep 26, 2024 ▶ 36:09 How to find & pull startup growth levers | Matt Lerner (Founder of SYSTM, Author of Growth Levers)
IN DEPTH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Startup Caribou grew 22x in 18 months using free educational content
“They ended up growing 20 to X in 18 months off the back of the strategy.”
Matt Lerner Sep 26, 2024 ▶ 1:04:02 How to find & pull startup growth levers | Matt Lerner (Founder of SYSTM, Author of Growth Levers)
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Lerner: Amazon's original 1996 North Star metric was repeat purchases
“Amazon's North Star from 1996 was repeat purchases.”
Matt Lerner May 31, 2024 ▶ 17:40 Matt Lerner: How to Hire Growth Leaders and Teams and Why in a World of AI | E1159 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Supported
500 Startups prefers hiring operators over finance and venture backgrounds
“At 500 startups, we tend to hire people who've got operating backgrounds rather than out of finance or venture.”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 3:12 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
20VC Disclosure
Distro Dojo startup gained 20% conversion lift from a button test
“We have a business in there now. And the first easy thing we did was we had them, you know, do a four cell test on the main call to action button on their homepage. And three days later, they had a 20% lift in conversion just from that.”
Matt Lerner Oct 26, 2015 ▶ 13:29 20 VC 082: 500 Startups Week: Growth Hacking 101: How To 10x Your Conversion with Matt Lerner, Head of Distro Dojo London
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