Matt Lerner, former PayPal growth leader and co-founder of SYSTM, explains how consumer apps like Calm and Noom use conversational onboarding flows as automated sales reps.
“If you go to some of these sites like Calm or Noom, they have these long convoluted onboarding flows that do a really good job of roping people in Getting them through the whole kind of information journey and building intent. And that's a neat thing because it can run you through an entire sales process without actually needing a salesperson. And to me, that just seems like the most obvious thing in the world for B to B companies to do for anything where customers maybe are only thinking about the problem and there's like eight steps to thinking about your solution or, you know, we just need to move them like a considered purchase, not impulse buy. Just seems like the most obvious thing to start to adopt those.”
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