Gokul Rajaram
Founding Partner, Marathon Management Partners. On 3 shows, 3 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.
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He built Google's AdSense product and served as Product Director of Ads at Facebook before taking executive leadership roles at Block and DoorDash. A prolific angel investor and venture capitalist, he serves on the boards of Coinbase, Pinterest, and The Trade Desk.
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33said about them ↓ Everything Gokul Rajaram said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.
Rajaram: B2B software switching costs will drop to zero within two years
“I think switching costs is less going to go to essentially zero because over the next one or two years, ability to port data, your data as a business or consumer from any ecosystem to another ecosystem is going to be very easy.”
Companies Should Ban Managers Who Have Fewer Than Ten Direct Reports
“You either need to be managing 50 humans, or you need to be an IC. And so they would, there's something called span of control, which means how many people you manage in some ways. And so span of control less than 10 should not be allowed at any company at thi…”
Rajaram: The public market software selloff due to AI is 100% overreaction
“I think this is 100% overreaction because not all software companies are created equal, and we can talk about what the differences are.”
Rajaram: AI will enable pixel-by-pixel cloning of software products
“And then people are going to be able to replicate almost pixel by pixel. The experience you have with one product in a different products, you'll have clones popping up left, right, and center and data portability is going to be easy in that case.”
Rajaram: Scale is no longer a competitive moat for pure software companies
“Software earlier was a scale game where because you had produced a lot of software, it was cheaper for you to produce a lot of the guess what? Now everybody can produce software as cheaply as anybody else.”
Rajaram: Systems of record must commoditize complementary AI products
“And I think that's the way that a net suite or a sales for the system record needs to operate. They have to commoditize a compliment. They can't just wait around for other people to build on top of them.”
Rajaram: Most bolt-on AI products are thin wrappers over OpenAI or Anthropic
“Most bolt on players are not doing it. They're simply using a GPT or anthropic model. And they're basically just adding a thin layer. You have to rebuild the entire experience end to end.”
Rajaram: Long software roadmaps are rendered obsolete every six months by AI
“Model capabilities are improving every six months because if you have too long a product roadmap, you're going around your program and the model comes and just blows it out of the water. So you've got to really understand what the capabilities are of each new …”
Rajaram: Fintech businesses moving money possess strong and defensible moats
“If you're moving money, you're generally in a good place. So anything touches money, We feel there's a very strong moat there, a much more defensible.”
Rajaram: Data and workflow are the only reliable non-fintech software moats
“Data and workflow moats are the two things you're really hanging your hat on as a software investor, because if you're not doing FinTech and then I think it early stage is too hard to know what a distribution moat is unless they have some hack and these hacks …”
Rajaram: AI replaces labor via BPO cuts, attrition, and finally direct layoffs
“The first thing that's happening is businesses are outsourcing to third party BPOs, many of them in India, Philippines, et cetera. That spend is the easiest to cut because now you can offer the same service, higher quality, faster, and 20, 30% cheaper. The sec…”
Rajaram: High-valuation, low-growth startups will become zombies and sell to PE
“A bunch of them are going to become zombie companies, And they're going to try to add AI features as a last resort, not succeed and be sold to PE.”
Rajaram: Seat pricing fails when AI executes work instead of providing access
“Now, the big challenge is seed based pricing, which you alluded to, is it breaks when the product's core value is not about access, but it's about something doing the work on your behalf. So at that point, charging per user doesn't make sense because user isn'…”
Rajaram: Jasper's ARR shot from $1M to $100M before falling to $40M
“I think we saw in the first way of AI, we saw many chat GPT, like there was a company called Jasper, not to pick on them, but they went from one to 40, and then they came back from 40 to 10 or something like, or maybe one to a hundred and a hundred to 40 withi…”
Rajaram: Moritz's Instacart investment was the top VC bet ever
“I think the best venture capital, I, someone asked me what's the best venture capital bets. I talk about a paradoxical one. I think it's Mike Moritz betting on Instacart. Why? Because he lost three hundred and seventy million on web van less than a decade ago.…”
Rajaram: Benchmark made money on WeWork by investing early
“Even in V work benchmark made money. Genchmark made money at WeWork because they invested early enough.”
Rajaram: You cannot build a Series A fund at $300M–$400M valuations
“Maybe you can do a couple of deals like that, but I don't think you can build a series A fund doing deals at three or four hundred million. Because it's not going to be enough ownership. These, some of these are going to fail, et cetera. But most deals, I thin…”
Rajaram: Startups must avoid competing directly on Google's primary roadmap
“If you're a startup, which is directly in Google's roadmap, like directly, you should not be building it because Google is very good when something is directly in order. They're like a tank. It will just roll over you even slowly, slowly, but it doesn't matter…”
Rajaram: Marathon will not invest in frontier AI labs at billion-dollar valuations
“Not possible. I don't think with our fund it's possible. I think the ownership is just literally the first round for these companies is, like you said, a billion dollars. So I think it's just too high a, the risk reward is just not worth it.”
Rajaram: Mega funds use $15M Series A checks as options
“They've basically gone and they deploy fifteen million dollar checks almost as an option and a lead lead generation for the next run. And the strategy is obviously to have an index at the A of every single good A company and then double down on the ones that t…”
Rajaram: Partner departures leave mega fund startups orphaned
“We see many examples actually in mega funds of partners leaving the fund and the companies orphaned within the mega fund because their partner has left. And now they don't have a single person to advocate for them in any way, shape or form, and they're adrift.”
Rajaram: Pure remote work fails for early-stage startups
“I used to think pure remote would scale for early stage companies if you have the right culture, but I don't think that anymore. I think you've got to be in person at least a few days a week.”
Rajaram ranks Page, Zuckerberg, Dorsey, and Xu as top CEOs
“I would say the best technical CEO, Larry Page, the best growth-centric CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, The best design-centric CEO, Jack Dorsey, and the best physical world operational CEO, the most likely to be Jeff Bezos next, Tony Xu.”
The other half of the tape: Gokul Rajaram's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 32 times in 12 episodes across the shows. 1 statement on the record names them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Harry Stebbings 12Max Rhodes 7Brian Hale 5Avlok Kohli 3Rich Liu 2Sri Batchu 1Rishi Garg 1Jamin Ball 1
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Kohli: Gokul Rajaram is his favorite angel investor due to end-to-end operational experience
“Gokul is actually my favorite angel to work with, and why him I think he's incredibly sharp and understands all of the life cycles of a company from the idea stage down to how do you actually scale it and become one of the enduring companies.”
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20VC 32
2026 1 mention in 1 episode
2024 1 mention in 1 episode
2023 11 mentions in 4 episodes 3 per episode
- AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli: The Funding Market Today; Last-Mile Delivery; Competing w/ Carta | E1005 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Rich Liu: Sales in 2023; How to Onboard, Manage and Scale Reps; PLG vs Enterprise Growth | E1023 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Sri Batchu: Biggest Growth Lesson from Instacart & Opendoor; 70% of Experiments Should Fail | E1040 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Alex Bouaziz: How We Became a $12B HR Company with 2,000 Remote Employees | 20VC #973 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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2022 13 mentions in 2 episodes 7 per episode
- 20VC: Faire's Max Rhodes on Three Steps To Hire the Best Candidates, Why Every Company Should Have a Strategy Doc and How To Do It & The Art of Referencing; How to Get the Most Out of Every Reference
- 20 Growth: Why Retention Defines Product Market Fit, What is Good Retention Levels Today, The Most Counterintuitive Elements of Product and Growth & Why So Many Startups Mess Up Hiring For Growth Teams with Brian Hale, Head of Consumer Product & Growth @
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2021 2 mentions in 1 episode
2020 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
- 20VC: Why the Theory of Pro-Rata is Often False, How Rolling Funds Impact Both Pricing and Competition & The Biggest Lessons from Working with Jack Dorsey with Avlok Kohli, CEO @ AngelList Venture
- 20VC: Figma Founder, Dylan Field on How Leadership Needs To Evolve with Scale, The Transition from Application to Platform & The Future of Remote Work, Education and Digital Spaces
- every mention in 2020, scene by scene →
One line per show, most statements first. The link opens Gokul's full record on that show: the calibration, argument clarity, speaking style and every statement made there.
| Show | Role there | Eps | Statements | Record | |
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| 20VCLEDGER | Founding Partner, Marathon Management Partners | 1 | 77 | 50% 8/16 | full record on 20VC → |
 INVEST LIKE THE BESTLEDGER | Founding Partner, Marathon Management Partners | 1 | 36 | 50% 1/2 | full record on Invest Like the Best → |
 a16zLEDGER | Founding Partner, Marathon Management Partners | 1 | 6 | — | full record on the a16z Podcast → |