Text Data

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A Product Market Fit Show the MAD Podcast Big Technology 20VC

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Izmailov: Text data carries more structural information per token than images
“So for example, we can approximate it from the scaling laws and we can, for example, say that text data has more structural information according to this measure than image data at the same kind of amount of yeah, tokens.”
Pavel Izmailov Jan 15, 2026 ▶ 37:17 The Evaluators Are Being Evaluated — Pavel Izmailov (Anthropic/NYU)
PRODUCT MARKET FIT Assertion Supported
Eskildsen: Vector embeddings are larger in data size than raw text
“Because they're in thousands of dimensions, the coordinate in the coordinate system is very counterintuitive, but the coordinate in the coordinate system is larger than the original data. If you take a paragraph of text, the coordinate that represents it is ac…”
Simon Eskildsen Oct 30, 2025 ▶ 15:26 He built a new database in his bedroom—now he powers Cursor, Notion and Anthropic. | Simon Eskild... · PMF Show
LeCun: AI cannot reach human-level intelligence by training on text alone
“And it tells you clearly that we're not going to get to human level AI by just training on text. It's just not a rich enough source of information.”
Yann LeCun Mar 19, 2025 ▶ 39:33 Why Can't AI Make Its Own Discoveries? — With Yann LeCun
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Socher: Top AI models have run out of high-quality human text data
“I think a lot of the top models, you can't add multiple orders of magnitude more text to them, because there isn't that much more text around.”
Richard Socher Oct 10, 2024 ▶ 19:11 AGI, The Future of AI Agents And The Next Wave of Opportunities in AI | Richard Socher, CEO, You.com
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Matt Clifford: Text-Based AI Scaling Is Hitting an S-Curve Limit
“I don't think there's a lot further to go in just finding more text. You know, I think we may be at the flattening out of the S-curve on text, but I suspect the next S-curve could just involve finding ways to yeah, to use video, to use, like, interactive exper…”
Matt Clifford Jul 1, 2024 ▶ 10:07 Matt Clifford: The Bull & Bear Case for China's Ability to Challenge the US' AI Capabilities | E1172 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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