Simon Last

person on 6 shows · 18 statements across 4 episodes · said 19 times in 10 episodes since 2020

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18 statements about Simon Last, every show

Schoening: Human intervention in writing code should feel like a bug
“At least on the writing side, every time there is an intervention, a human intervention, it should feel a little bit like a bug.”
Max Schoening May 2, 2026 ▶ 38:54 AI era skills: Why cultivating agency matters more than job titles | Max Schoening (Notion)
AI Evaluation Harnesses Should Remain Compatible With General CLI Tools
“Yeah, I think it'll be a mistake to like fix it on any particular coding agent. At the end of the day, it's just like CLI tools.”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 29:43 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
Supervising AI Agents Is a Deeply Technical Systems Problem, Unlike Managing Humans
“There's a critical difference To being a manager, which is that like, it is actually very deeply technical. The problem of, you know, humans are very like fuzzy and you can't like treat a team of humans like a rigorous system where like, you know, PRs like fle…”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 31:41 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
CLI Environments Let AI Agents Autonomously Debug and Fix Broken Tools
“And then I think the most important thing that's super cool is that there it's also inherently a bootstrapped. So if there's an issue of the agent can debug and fix itself within the same environment that it uses the tool, right?”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 41:45 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
MCP Provides a Safer Permission Model Than CLIs by Preventing Token Exfiltration
“MCP inherently has a really strong permission model. Like, all you can do is call the tools. A CLI is a little bit murkier. It's like, can I access the API token? Are you, like, properly sort of, like, re-encrypting the token so it can't, like, exfiltrate it? …”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 43:20 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
Agent Environments Must Favor Model Preferences Over Internal System Architecture
“I mean, that was, I would say that was a big learning is just, you know, really be savvy and really careful thinking about what the model wants in terms of, you know, its environment and cater around that and really try so hard not to expose it to any complexi…”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 51:22 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
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Simon Last Runs Autonomous Coding Agents Overnight Before Going to Sleep
“So now every night before I go to bed, I'm like, okay, did I start enough agents to get them done? I get everything done.”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 1:12:47 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
Simon Last: 99% of Agent Failures Are Tool Bugs, Not Model Flaws
“And actually, 99% of the time, it's a bug in one of the tools. Right. And so, just fix the bug.”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 1:15:20 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
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Notion's Meeting Notes Automatically Mention Individuals Referenced in Generated Summaries
“One thing that the meeting notes team added recently that was But I've been blowing my mind is they, we have, they made it so it actually, when it makes the summary will actually mention the people that were referenced in it. So I now get notifications wheneve…”
Simon Last Apr 15, 2026 ▶ 1:21:00 Notion’s Sarah Sachs & Simon Last on Custom Agents, Evals, and the Future of Work
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Simon Last: GPT-4 Proto-Interface Sparked Notion's AI Pivot
“It wasn't until I played with GPT-IV that it became really, really real. So, you know, we, when we got access to it was sort of like a proto-ChatGPT-like interface. And my co-founder Ivan and I both got access, and it was just immediately clear, like, I would …”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 1:00 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Simon Last: Most Enterprise Software Companies Build Terrible Search Indexes
“But it turns out that most of the companies are pretty bad at making their indexes.”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 5:04 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Simon Last: AI Coding Agents Can Build More Robust Software
“The upshot is I think if you do it well, you can be much more ambitious about what you're building. And also make it much more robust than you could have done with humans writing it. And then the flip side is if you do it badly, it's all slop.”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 9:30 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Simon Last: Current AI Tools Enable 100x to 1,000x Engineering Leverage
“You can be like a hundred or thousand x engineer for using the tools right now. I think the gap is much bigger. Like the minimum bar has not changed, but the maximum bar has extremely increased.”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 10:46 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Simon Last: AI Agents Now Write All Pull Requests at Notion
“And you know, all the pull requests are now written by agents. They're often like larger and more complex. That's like the worst part. But the better part is that they're often like a much better tested and we can demand sort of a much better testing for the t…”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 12:09 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Simon Last Let an Autonomous Coding Agent Run for 13 Days
“My personal record is that I've had a coding agent running for, I think it was, 13 days straight without stopping. I'm just basically working through, like, tasks.”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 21:14 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Simon Last: Start Custom Enterprise AI Agents in Approval Mode
“The general pattern I follow is sort of, I build it as a prototype, I have it in sort of like an approval mode, where I'm sort of, you know, watching it closely, and then, but then after it runs a bunch of times, you kind of trust that it's working”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 24:35 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Notion Co-Founder Simon Last Has Not Manually Typed Code Since Summer
“I haven't written code since like last summer. I don't type code anymore.”
Simon Last Mar 12, 2026 ▶ 27:49 From Note-Taking App to AI Workspace: The Simon Last Interview
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Zhao: Notion laid off its early team to downsize to two co-founders
“At that time, Notion was five people. We lay off, I brought it back to me and Simon, two people.”
Ivan Zhao Mar 6, 2025 ▶ 17:41 Notion's lost years, near collapse during COVID, staying small to move fast, building horizontal

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