Pod Shops

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Wagner: Finepoint buys Asian derivatives at 80% discount due to pod shorting
“So we actually have recently found a derivative in an Asian market That we're buying for 10 to 20% of what we think it's worth, so 80 to 90% discount, and it's solely the result of the fact that there's a market in Asia that has such a large demand to be short…”
Herb Wagner Sep 22, 2025 ▶ 57:23 Herb Wagner – Opportunistic Value at Finepoint Capital (EP.460)
Granat: Lone Pine does not view multi-manager pod shops as its competition
“I don't think of the pods as our competition. I mean, the market is obviously we're benchmarked in one of our products, and so that's obviously our competition and how we evaluate ourselves.”
Kelly Granat Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 59:39 Kelly Granat - Investing At Lone Pine · Invest Like The Best
Granat: Earnings day price reactions have become a positioning coin toss
“The game of, you hand me an earnings release, and I'll tell you what the stock's gonna do, was actually a fundamental game that we were pretty good at a decade ago. Now, it's like, coin toss. What's the setup? You tell me. What's the whisper number? What are t…”
Kelly Granat Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 1:24:57 Kelly Granat - Investing At Lone Pine · Invest Like The Best
Asness: Multi-manager pod shop model completely defied his past intuition
“If you had told me 20 years ago that here's my strategy, I'm gonna go find people I think are really good at this, Pay them a lot. Charge that to the underlying investor. So the fees are, when you add it all up, are gigantic. And then I'm going to fire them ra…”
Cliff Asness May 13, 2024 ▶ 43:27 Cliff Asness - Simple Investing is Hard (EP.385)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe May 2029
Asness: Multi-manager pod shops probably cannot grow by another 5x
“I tend to think those shops probably can't grow by another factor of five. There's just a limit to alpha. There are limits how many great traders that are out there.”
Cliff Asness May 13, 2024 ▶ 45:04 Cliff Asness - Simple Investing is Hard (EP.385)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Jackson: Multi-strategy pod shop investors keep only ~45% of gross returns
“We've seen the pass-through cost structure eat away at investor returns, so now I think on average the end investor is keeping around maybe 45% of the gross return”
John Jackson Oct 23, 2023 ▶ 31:00 Raelan Lambert, John Jackson, and Erik Sebusch – Inside Mercer Consulting (EP.345)
Corre: Multi-Manager Pods Have Compressed Friendly Merger Arbitrage Spreads
“The pod shops in merger arbitrage have become a very, very important player. Some of them do some amount of event-driven equities, but I think it's much, much more constrained because of the market neutrality that they run. But I think the biggest impact, I wo…”
Isaac Corre Oct 16, 2023 ▶ 35:10 Isaac Corre – Event-Driven Investing at Governors Lane (EP.344)
Corre: Multi-Manager Pods Excel at Harvesting Short-Term Equity Alpha
“On the equity side, I think the pods have done just a terrific job in harvesting short-term alpha. Calling the quarter and things like that, they're just very, very good at.”
Isaac Corre Oct 16, 2023 ▶ 35:40 Isaac Corre – Event-Driven Investing at Governors Lane (EP.344)
ALL-IN Assertion Supported
Chamath: Pod shops generated double-digit returns and outperformed in 2022
“Those strategies as a whole ran over the market this year. They were the best performers. They are giving back billions of dollars. They've generated double digit positive returns.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Dec 24, 2022 ▶ 1:48:57 E109: 2022 Bestie Awards Live from Twitter HQ

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