Pod Shops
topic on 3 shows · 9 statements across 6 episodes
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Wagner: Finepoint buys Asian derivatives at 80% discount due to pod shorting
“So we actually have recently found a derivative in an Asian market That we're buying for 10 to 20% of what we think it's worth, so 80 to 90% discount, and it's solely the result of the fact that there's a market in Asia that has such a large demand to be short…”
Granat: Lone Pine does not view multi-manager pod shops as its competition
“I don't think of the pods as our competition. I mean, the market is obviously we're benchmarked in one of our products, and so that's obviously our competition and how we evaluate ourselves.”
Granat: Earnings day price reactions have become a positioning coin toss
“The game of, you hand me an earnings release, and I'll tell you what the stock's gonna do, was actually a fundamental game that we were pretty good at a decade ago. Now, it's like, coin toss. What's the setup? You tell me. What's the whisper number? What are t…”
Asness: Multi-manager pod shop model completely defied his past intuition
“If you had told me 20 years ago that here's my strategy, I'm gonna go find people I think are really good at this, Pay them a lot. Charge that to the underlying investor. So the fees are, when you add it all up, are gigantic. And then I'm going to fire them ra…”
Asness: Multi-manager pod shops probably cannot grow by another 5x
“I tend to think those shops probably can't grow by another factor of five. There's just a limit to alpha. There are limits how many great traders that are out there.”
Jackson: Multi-strategy pod shop investors keep only ~45% of gross returns
“We've seen the pass-through cost structure eat away at investor returns, so now I think on average the end investor is keeping around maybe 45% of the gross return”
Corre: Multi-Manager Pods Have Compressed Friendly Merger Arbitrage Spreads
“The pod shops in merger arbitrage have become a very, very important player. Some of them do some amount of event-driven equities, but I think it's much, much more constrained because of the market neutrality that they run. But I think the biggest impact, I wo…”