Old Media

“Well, the first principle is if you're trained in old media, it's very, very, very hard to do new media. So you have to be a very exceptional person to make that transition because It's like, if you spent 10 years doing old media, there are laws of physics, th…”

“I think a lot of people in like old media don't understand the Kind of the value of attaching a media brand to a non-media company to provide top of funnel for it.”