Llama 4
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the a16z Podcast 4 
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2026 14 mentions in 9 episodes 2 per episode
- Inside the Race to Measure Frontier Intelligence
- Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth: Our Path To Frontier AI, Renting Models, Consumer AI's Struggles
- Social Network Sequel Trailer, Fable 5 Sparks Safety Debate, SpaceX IPO Watch | Diet TBPN
- Meta’s AI Comeback Moment, Claude Mythos | Diet TBPN
- State of LLMs 2026: RLVR, GRPO, Inference Scaling — Sebastian Raschka
- Alexandr Wang: “This is a Once-in-a-Civilization Opportunity” · Y Combinator
- FDE: The $1M/Year AI Job Explained
- Agent Inference at the "Speed of Light" — How NVIDIA moves like a $4.3 Trillion Startup
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2025 62 mentions in 40 episodes 2 per episode
- The Most UNDERRATED Use Case in AI | Jeff Huber on TBPN April 8th
- DeepSeek Update, Market Crash, Timeline in Turmoil, Is VC Cooked, Zero Cope Policy
- Better Data is All You Need — Ari Morcos, Datology
- SAM 3: The Eyes for AI — Nikhila & Pengchuan (Meta Superintelligence), ft. Joseph Nelson (Roboflow)
- The AI Agenda: GPT5 leaks and the business of AI News — Steph Palazzolo, The Information
- Weekly Recap: CEO Affair at Coldplay Concert, Elon Musk's AI Girlfriend, Cognition Acquires Windsurf
- Weekly Recap: The Soham Parekh Drama, Meta Attacks OpenAI, Trump's Mega Bill
- Sam Altman’s Gentle Singularity, Zuck’s AI Power Play, Burning Of The Waymos
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2024 28 mentions in 15 episodes 2 per episode
- Ep13. Silicon Valley’s Political 180, META AI, COVID Postmortem | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
- Training Llama 2, 3 & 4: The Path to Open Source AGI — with Thomas Scialom of Meta AI
- AGI, The Future of AI Agents And The Next Wave of Opportunities in AI | Richard Socher, CEO, You.com
- Superintelligence, Bubbles And Big Bets: AI Investing in 2024 | Matt Turck & Aman Kabeer, FirstMark
- Production AI Engineering starts with Evals
- The Quest for Community-Trained Open Source AI Models
- Language Agents: From Reasoning to Acting — with Shunyu Yao of OpenAI, Harrison Chase of LangGraph
- Ep8. AI Models, Data Scaling, Enterprise & Personal AI | BG2 with Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner · Bg2 Pod
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10 statements about Llama 4, every show
Wang: Meta rebuilt frontier AI lab from scratch after Llama 4 stalled
“Lama four wasn't on the trajectory that was needed for Meta. And so I got in there and we kind of did a zero based build of how do you know, build an entire frontier lab you know, in some ways kind of from scratch, obviously using a lot of what we had and move…”
Bosworth: Meta emptied its AI research pipeline to build Llama 3
“When we were pulling Llama three together, we had really pulled in all the research, all the every, we pulled out every single stop we had and unwittingly kind of killed the pipeline. So researchers, you know, the way that it works is you build a base And you'…”
Kantrowitz: Meta's Llama 4 large language model was a failure
“Just remember, Llama Four, right, I think their most recent large language model was a failure. I think that's what led to this.”
Alex Schultz admits Meta's Llama 4 missed the leading edge
“It's pretty clear Llama was not, like, Llama four wasn't leading edge where Llama three was. So, you know, our big release this year was not a slam dunk, but our big release last year was, and I'm pretty confident our next big release will be again.”
Morcos: GPT-4.5 and Llama 4 show limits of naive mega-model scaling
“And I think that's what we've seen to some extent with the failure of the mega models, right? With 4.5 and Lama four and others. I think that there is a challenge of just continuing to do that naively and you have to figure out how to break it.”
Levie: Upgrading to reasoning models instantly replaces a year of custom scaffolding
“The amount of work you would have to do to pack into, let's say, a non-reasoning model for giving it exactly the right sort of context, instructions, kind of hacking and tool use, versus today, just having O-Tree go do that, or having the new Lama IV go and do…”
Hu: Claude is naturally human-steerable while Llama requires heavy prompting
“One of the things that's known a lot is Claude is sort of the more happy and more human steerable model, and the other one is Lama. Four is one that needs a lot more steering. It's almost like talking to a developer, and part of it could be an artifact of not …”
Crivello: Meta's Llama 4 Has Good Evals but Bad Vibes
“I will say, I feel bad for saying that because I have friends like the Lama team, but boy, like Lama for the vibes are really bad. Like the emails are good and the vibes are quite bad actually.”
Crivello: Meta AI VP and Researchers Resigned Over Unethical Practices
“The VP of AI research at Meta resigned and so have a couple members of the core research team seemingly in protest for what they deemed to be unethical practices.”
Gerstner: Meta's Llama 4 will launch in April 2025 with 400B parameters
“What I'm hearing, Bill, is that it'll be a four hundred billion parameter model, It'll use like, it'll be a mixture of expert model using, you know, 50, 60 70 experts. It's gonna have huge context window, like ten million context window, you know, and it's gon…”