Closed Source AI

topic on 3 shows · 4 statements across 4 episodes

the MAD Podcast All-In 20VC

4 statements about Closed Source AI, every show

MAD Insight
Wolf: Open Versus Closed AI Is Orthogonal to Model Safety
“If for many aspects, I think the closed open distinction is almost orthogonal to the safe and safe. People don't understand that, you know, easily because it's easier to do bad mapping than to try to understand the subtlety.”
Thomas Wolf Aug 6, 2026 ▶ 13:48 “OpenAI’s Model Hacked Us” - Hugging Face’s Thomas Wolf
ALL-IN Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sacks: AI market could mirror Apple-Android split in market share and revenue
“It might end up being a situation like Apple and Android, where Android got a lot of market share, but Apple's where all the monetization was.”
David Sacks Jul 30, 2026 ▶ 57:46 Chip Stocks Crash, $20B Fund Margin Called, Frontier Labs: SLOW DOWN AI, Mamdani's Grocery Stores
20VC Opinion
Pineau: Planning around a closed-source AI world is a deep mistake
“That's a deep mistake. I mean, I will continue to believe that, especially for research, the ideas need to circulate, and this thought that you can just, like, close us down is, is absolutely false. I mean, people are circulated.”
Joelle Pineau Nov 3, 2025 ▶ 58:06 Cohere's Chief AI Officer, Joelle Pineau: Why Scaling Laws Will Continue & Future of Synthetic Data · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Shazeer: Open and Closed AI Ecosystems Will Continue to Coexist
“As there has been, there will be a big ecosystem of open and closed of, you know, People who aren't sharing their secret sauce with, and people who are sharing all of their secret sauce and the ability to mess around with things at a small scale is going to le…”
Noam Shazeer Aug 31, 2023 ▶ 23:19 Noam Shazeer: How We Spent $2M to Train a Single AI Model and Grew Character.ai to 20M Users | E1055 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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