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Google Part II: Alphabet (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 20:31 David Rosenthal Microsoft's distracted with the albatross that was Longhorn that would become Windows Vista.
- ▶ 1:55:21 Ben Gilbert And this is equivalent to Dave Cutler doing Windows NT.
- ▶ 2:31:46 Ben Gilbert Blackberry, Windows Mobile?
- ▶ 2:32:10 David Rosenthal Or, you did have OEMs, device makers, who made devices, and then they bought an operating system, either from Palm, which made their own devices, but then also started selling the operating system to other vendors, or the big player was…
- ▶ 2:36:49 David Rosenthal Smartphones, you know, and even Windows Mobile, as bad as it was, proved that there is demand.
- ▶ 3:03:25 David Rosenthal Or even take Microsoft and Windows.
- ▶ 3:03:26 David Rosenthal Like, Windows is still big today.
- ▶ 3:28:14 David Rosenthal This was Google's Windows Longhorn slash Windows Vista.
- ▶ 3:28:19 David Rosenthal In our Microsoft saga, we talked about how Vista slash Longhorn was the most damaging thing to the company because of the distraction and the siphoning of resources and the best talent away from working on what really mattered.
- ▶ 3:28:45 David Rosenthal Like, the whole reason Microsoft let Google fester from their perspective for all these years and didn't kneecap them was they were tied up with all the distraction from Vista.
Google Part I: Origins of Search. How the Best Business in Human History Happened (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 49:46 David Rosenthal But DEC, I mean, the company we talked all about in our Microsoft series, where Dave Cutler came from, wrote Windows NT, you know, legendary, legendary company.
The Steve Ballmer Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 9:05 Steve Ballmer Very important in our story because Dave Cutler, who was kind of the father of NT, Windows NT, he came from digital equipment and they were, they were fighting.
- ▶ 24:19 Steve Ballmer So I had windows, I had shipped when I'd been the development manager for windows one.
- ▶ 24:24 David Rosenthal Oh, the great videos of you from the windows one point O launch, but that's the sales side.
- ▶ 25:04 Steve Ballmer We couldn't make the mistake we sort of made, uh, in the thing that became Vista Vista.
- ▶ 29:42 Steve Ballmer We didn't break the six 40 K barrier until I think Windows 3.1, which I want to say was 91 or 92.
- ▶ 47:02 David Rosenthal So at a certain point along the way, you get to, well, I want to say the Holy Trinity, but I think there are more than three pieces of this, but the real killer suite in enterprises, which is Windows, Windows Server, Active Directory,…
- ▶ 50:35 Steve Ballmer Well, remember, by this time, we're not through our IBM competition, and we got Linux competition now on the docket, because Linux is competing with Windows Server.
- ▶ 51:58 Steve Ballmer I mean, people say that they might mean Azure, AWS, or in the old days, Windows, or Windows Server, or Unix, uh, then Linux.
- ▶ 56:03 Steve Ballmer We're trying to get people to write for Windows Server.
- ▶ 56:26 Steve Ballmer We need them to do Windows Server.
- ▶ 59:47 Steve Ballmer Windows mobile, exactly.
- ▶ 1:02:58 Steve Ballmer And that worked for us on Windows Server.
- ▶ 1:18:27 Steve Ballmer We've been doing that with Windows server and SQL server.
- ▶ 1:21:46 Steve Ballmer Windows Server had a strong developer group.
- ▶ 1:23:21 Steve Ballmer And then on Windows Server, Unix was stronger on the back end.
- ▶ 1:27:20 Steve Ballmer I mean, Windows and Windows NT were in different groups, too.
- ▶ 1:27:49 Steve Ballmer We broke Windows NT out and constrained it with Windows.
- ▶ 1:55:33 Steve Ballmer The toughest time was probably the ship of Vista.
- ▶ 1:57:55 Ben Gilbert And he's working on Longhorn at this point, because it's post XP.
- ▶ 1:57:55 Ben Gilbert And he's working on Longhorn at this point, because it's post XP.
- ▶ 1:58:00 Steve Ballmer Longhorn was a big mistake.
- ▶ 1:58:24 Steve Ballmer Uh, phone, big disagreement.
- ▶ 1:59:09 Ben Gilbert Vista.
- ▶ 2:11:01 Steve Ballmer They were the biggest Windows phone OEM at the time.
Epic Systems (MyChart) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:00:17 Ben Gilbert Had gone public and shipped Windows 95 and did six billion in revenue.
Acquired LIVE from Chase Center (with Daniel Ek, Emily Chang, Jensen Huang and Mark Zuckerberg) · Acquired
- ▶ 1:45:35 Mark Zuckerberg Let's build this platform where we can get a web-based platform, so you basically build a native shell, and you build this web-based platform in it, and we'll be able to just update our apps every day, and we'll ship one thing once, and…
- ▶ 2:17:56 Mark Zuckerberg In the PC era, Windows with the open ecosystem was the leader, and part of my goal for the next 1015 years, the next generation of platforms, is to build the next generation of open platforms and have the open platforms win.
The Mark Zuckerberg Interview · Acquired
- ▶ 37:34 Mark Zuckerberg Let's build this platform where we can get a web-based platform, so you basically build a native shell, and you build this web-based platform in it, and we'll be able to just update our apps every day, and we'll ship one thing once, and…
- ▶ 1:10:09 Mark Zuckerberg In the PC era, Windows with the open ecosystem was the leader, and part of my goal for the next 1015 years, the next generation of platforms, is to build the next generation of open platforms and have the open platforms win.
Microsoft Volume II: The Complete History and Strategy of the Ballmer Years (Audio) · Acquired
- ▶ 0:51 Ben Gilbert The Internet, Windows XP, Xbox, the browser, search, and mobile.
- ▶ 5:07 David Rosenthal So on the last episode, we left off with the, Ben, as you put it, unabashed celebration of software that was the Windows-ninety-five consumer launch in August of 1995.
- ▶ 5:35 David Rosenthal That was missing from Windows 95 at launch.
- ▶ 5:53 Ben Gilbert It's so funny because we sort of intentionally left all the internet components out of Windows 95.
- ▶ 6:08 Ben Gilbert But in retrospect, the thing that mattered about Windows 95 all these years later is that's the platform that everyone started using the Internet on.
- ▶ 7:44 David Rosenthal That's what online was like, just a few years or months before the Windows 95 launch.
- ▶ 13:24 David Rosenthal After the Netscape IPO has already happened, and Windows 95 has shipped.
- ▶ 30:53 Ben Gilbert So, some of the Windows-ninety-five team in late-ninety-four, led by Thomas Riordan, is pulled off before it ships to start thinking about
- ▶ 31:01 Ben Gilbert What should we do after Windows 95 ships?
- ▶ 33:01 Ben Gilbert We should get this done as a part of Windows 95, not wait for the next big release.
- ▶ 33:05 David Rosenthal We're gonna get to this in a minute, but when Windows 95 launched, it had, either at launch or very shortly thereafter, what was called the Plus Pack.
- ▶ 36:08 David Rosenthal So that brings us to the August-ninety-five Windows-ninety-five launch, scheduled for the 24th.
- ▶ 36:50 David Rosenthal In the IPO press cycle, Mark Andreessen is quoted as saying that, quote, Netscape will soon reduce Windows to a poorly debugged set of device drivers.
- ▶ 37:11 Ben Gilbert If one of the things he's saying is Windows is a platform upon which independent software vendors
- ▶ 37:21 Ben Gilbert So Windows is the way that currently people write software for businesses and consumers to use.
- ▶ 37:28 Ben Gilbert And if we are going to reduce Windows to a poorly debugged set of device drivers, what I'm implying is these crappy static web pages that get served right now, that is merely a step on our journey to enabling rich web applications.
- ▶ 37:55 Ben Gilbert And so when they're saying we're going to reduce Windows, blah, blah, blah, it's saying, okay, Windows has all this stuff right now for developers, but essentially you're going to use Windows or any operating system just to boot it up,…
- ▶ 39:25 David Rosenthal You can see why it was so important to Microsoft to beat Netscape, to bring the Internet in the form of Internet Explorer into Windows and have Windows maintain its role as the dominant platform.
- ▶ 39:47 Ben Gilbert It's an application platform of the future that is distributed as a Windows app.
- ▶ 39:53 Ben Gilbert I mean, Windows had huge market share at this point, I don't know, 80, 90%, eventually over 90% market share.
- ▶ 39:59 Ben Gilbert The way that Netscape could get to consumers was because Microsoft had all these computers out there running Windows.
- ▶ 40:13 David Rosenthal So, Windows 95 launches a couple weeks after the Netscape IPO.
- ▶ 40:24 David Rosenthal You can buy it for 50 dollars as part of the plus pack that I was referencing before, and install that and add it into Windows, and Microsoft will make money on the sale of that software, but that of course does nothing to make a dent in…
- ▶ 41:43 David Rosenthal And then, on December seventh, 1995, Bill Gates announces that Internet Explorer is now free, and it will be bundled in with every single copy of Windows 95 going forward.
- ▶ 44:41 Ben Gilbert They're still doing the same thing as ever, selling Windows licenses through OEMs and to consumers at retail.
- ▶ 49:59 Ben Gilbert We were talking about the web as a potential development platform of the future, even as far back as 1994, people building web applications, or, you know, Windows 95
- ▶ 1:01:36 David Rosenthal Well, they did ship Windows-ninety-five without Internet Explorer in the beginning, so.
- ▶ 1:17:44 David Rosenthal So then, in November, 2001, just a couple weeks after the Windows XP launch, the DOJ and Microsoft finally, completely settled the case.
- ▶ 1:17:56 Ben Gilbert Also, can we just say, this case is brought against Windows 95, Windows 98 comes out, and then before we have a resolution, Windows XP comes out.
- ▶ 1:17:56 Ben Gilbert Also, can we just say, this case is brought against Windows 95, Windows 98 comes out, and then before we have a resolution, Windows XP comes out.
- ▶ 1:21:19 David Rosenthal XP was a huge success.
- ▶ 1:21:25 David Rosenthal It unifies Windows under the NT architecture.
- ▶ 1:33:38 Ben Gilbert And along with that, release XP, the most successful Windows operating system ever.
- ▶ 1:33:38 Ben Gilbert And along with that, release XP, the most successful Windows operating system ever.
- ▶ 1:33:44 Ben Gilbert And then we're gonna talk about Vista, and then we're gonna talk about Zune, and Search, and Bing, and Windows Mobile, and Windows Eight, and yeah, all that.
- ▶ 1:33:44 Ben Gilbert And then we're gonna talk about Vista, and then we're gonna talk about Zune, and Search, and Bing, and Windows Mobile, and Windows Eight, and yeah, all that.
- ▶ 1:33:44 Ben Gilbert And then we're gonna talk about Vista, and then we're gonna talk about Zune, and Search, and Bing, and Windows Mobile, and Windows Eight, and yeah, all that.
- ▶ 1:36:37 Ben Gilbert There's NT slash back office.
- ▶ 1:36:48 Ben Gilbert So you can think about it as Windows, and he said NT slash back office, but this is the enterprise, an office.
- ▶ 1:36:54 David Rosenthal Which is so funny that Bill thought of it as NT slash back office.
- ▶ 1:37:02 Ben Gilbert Bill was like, it's like this stuff that businesses buy, but I'm gonna refer to it by its Microsoft product name of one of the products we sell, which is NT.
- ▶ 1:37:22 Ben Gilbert So he's talking about the interesting thing, the server business, which is a different way he refers to NT slash back office.
- ▶ 1:37:54 David Rosenthal Ok, so we did talk last time about NT and Dave Cutler and the heroics that he performed to write NT.
- ▶ 1:38:03 David Rosenthal Windows NT, though, was still a client operating system architecture for a user to use a personal computer with.
- ▶ 1:38:13 Ben Gilbert NT basically was enterprise ready.
- ▶ 1:43:33 Ben Gilbert You then have NT as the operating system, SQL as the database, and then you've got all these other applications that basically run on that stack.
- ▶ 1:52:25 David Rosenthal We were using XP, of course.
- ▶ 1:52:28 Ben Gilbert In 2007, you were using XP.
- ▶ 1:58:39 Ben Gilbert So, Windows XP.
- ▶ 1:58:42 Ben Gilbert Why was Windows XP such a big deal?
- ▶ 1:59:11 Ben Gilbert So what was Windows XP technically?
- ▶ 1:59:21 Ben Gilbert There was Windows NT for
- ▶ 1:59:25 Ben Gilbert The enterprise, and there was Windows nine X, you know, Windows 95, Windows 98 for consumers.
- ▶ 1:59:51 Ben Gilbert And so the knock against NT was always, well, you need really beefy enterprise grade PCs to run it, and it's not as nice and intuitive, and the knock against the Windows nine X, call it 95, was that, yeah, it looks pretty, but it's not…
- ▶ 1:59:51 Ben Gilbert And so the knock against NT was always, well, you need really beefy enterprise grade PCs to run it, and it's not as nice and intuitive, and the knock against the Windows nine X, call it 95, was that, yeah, it looks pretty, but it's not…
- ▶ 2:00:16 Ben Gilbert And so XP
- ▶ 2:00:18 Ben Gilbert Did the impossible where they figured out how to take the ease of use of the nine X interface and make it run on top of NT.
- ▶ 2:00:30 Ben Gilbert The whole thing is built on the NT kernel and it has the friendly, approachable ease of use that you are used to in windows.
- ▶ 2:00:38 Ben Gilbert 95 and 98.
- ▶ 2:00:41 Ben Gilbert So the lineage of that nine X code base that came all the way from windows three dot O or maybe even one or two, I don't know if
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