Ed Baker

Angel Investor & Growth Advisor · 1 appearance on the record, plus 2 compilation re-airs.

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Ed Baker is an angel investor and growth advisor to startups including Lime, Zwift, and Whoop. He previously served as VP of Product and Growth at Uber and Head of International Growth at Facebook.

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11 assertions · 1 opinion · 13 insights · 2 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 11 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 6 are resolved, 4 are not yet assessed, and 1 names no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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What the tape says about how Ed argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

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Assertion Supported
Ed Baker: Uber secretly ran India test against CEO orders, doubling conversion
“We decided to run a test In Hyderabad, India, where we said, let's let riders request their first ride without putting a credit card number in. In fact, we were told by our CEO not to run that test because he felt so strongly against it, but we had so much con…”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 36:16 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @

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258 words/min while actually speaking · 0 um and uh per 1k words

No argument clarity score for Ed Baker: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews. Their coarse estimate from 30 exchanges on the produced feed is ≈4.5/5, shown at half point precision because the sample is small and produced tape scores higher.

Measured by listening to 7,847 words across 1 episode, but every recording we have of Ed Baker is the aired feed, and an editor cleaned that audio before release. Some of the hesitation was cut before we ever heard it, so read these as floors: the true rates are at least this high. These are measurements of speaking style, not scores. How it's measured →

Everything Ed Baker said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Supported
Ed Baker: Uber secretly ran India test against CEO orders, doubling conversion
“We decided to run a test In Hyderabad, India, where we said, let's let riders request their first ride without putting a credit card number in. In fact, we were told by our CEO not to run that test because he felt so strongly against it, but we had so much con…”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 36:16 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Baker: Defying CEO to test credit-card-free signups doubled Uber's Hyderabad conversions
“We decided to run a test in Hyderabad, India, where we said, let's let riders request their first ride without putting a credit card number in. In fact, we were told by our CEO not to run that test because he felt so strongly against it, but we had so much con…”
Ed Baker Mar 25, 2022 ▶ 10:12 20VC The Memo: Inside the Growth Engines of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Instacart with the Growth Leaders Who Built Them; How Instagram Went from 440M to 1BN, How Twitter Changing Their Signup Flow was a Needlemover and How Removing Card Payment Requ
Disclosure
Baker: Uber growth team pulled weekly Thursday all-nighters for Kalanick
“And so we would have growth team meetings with him every Friday morning. We'd usually pull all nighters every Thursday night, preparing for our meeting with him on Friday morning.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 31:20 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Baker: Very few products maintain a K-factor above 1 today
“I think very few products have K-Factors above one these days. It's just a lot harder to get things to go viral these days.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 41:32 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Ed Baker: Experienced growth hires do not require elaborate onboarding setups
“I don't think you necessarily have to have an amazing onboarding set up for this new head of growth that you're hiring. And again, if it's an experienced person, they'll be able to figure out a lot of it on their own.”
Ed Baker Nov 25, 2022 ▶ 13:41 20VC: When to Make Your First Growth Hire? Senior or Junior? How To Onboard Them? How To Monitor Their Progress? from Growth Leaders @ Facebook, Instagram, Lyft, Instacart, Miro and more
Insight
Major initiatives drive more growth than hundreds of A/B tests combined
“When I look back at my time at Uber, every year we maybe had one or two things like that that accounted for more growth than everything else combined.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 8:55 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Ed Baker: Startups must achieve product-market fit before hiring for growth
“I think you want to find product market fit before you start to work on growth. Sometimes startups will say, oh, we need to hire a growth leader in order to find product market fit. But I actually think they're two different things.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 13:13 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Testing minor UI tweaks like button colors is a waste of time
“One nice thing about a needle mover, it actually takes very little data to see that this is a needle mover. You need more data for the smaller Improvements. Maybe changing the color of this button, and you want to see, does that improve conversion by a fractio…”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 35:09 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Opinion
Ed Baker: Growth Hacking Has Become Overly Quantitative and Metric-Focused
“I think growth has become almost too quantitative and analytical, and when people talk about growth hacking, they're almost like focused too much on the metrics. For me, the most exciting part is the creative side of growth, coming up with super creative ways …”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 46:06 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Ed Baker: Growth hires who do not ask founders for help are a red flag
“I'd say it's almost a red flag if the person you've just hired is not asking you for help as founder or CEO.”
Ed Baker Nov 25, 2022 ▶ 15:31 20VC: When to Make Your First Growth Hire? Senior or Junior? How To Onboard Them? How To Monitor Their Progress? from Growth Leaders @ Facebook, Instagram, Lyft, Instacart, Miro and more
Insight
Ed Baker: Retention and engagement drive growth more than acquisition as companies scale
“Basically as you get Bigger. Those two metrics of retention and engagement actually become a lot more important to maintaining growth than new user acquisition.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 5:49 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Assertion Supported
Reframing invites as announcements enabled Facebook to surpass Mixi in Japan
“Japan went from one of our slowest growing countries to one of our fastest growing countries. Shortly after that, we surpassed our local competitor in Japan.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 7:03 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
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Uber's rider app driver button matched all paid marketing driver signups
“By adding that little button in the rider app that said become a driver, suddenly we had as many new drivers signing up from that button as we did from all of our paid marketing efforts combined.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 8:38 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Assertion Partly supported
Ed Baker: Facebook and Uber growth leaders reported directly to CEO
“And in both of those cases, they had separate growth teams where the growth leader reported directly to the CEO. And these teams were structured cross-functionally.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 15:13 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Baker: Companies do not necessarily need standalone growth teams
“There's no one right way to do it. I don't think you necessarily need a separate growth team and a separate product team, and I've seen companies that sometimes build the growth team within product.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 17:17 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Baker: External growth leads must have prior leading-company growth experience
“I think if you're going to hire someone externally to start up a new growth team within the company, it's really important. I think that that person has had experience on a growth team at one of these leading companies so they know what they're doing. Whereas …”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 19:25 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
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Travis Kalanick tested Ed Baker with an Uber promo card case study
“So when Travis, the CEO of Uber was interviewing me, he actually gave me a challenge problem about Uber promo cards. And he just said, we have these promo cards. We haven't really figured out exactly how we're going to use these yet. Tell me how you would make…”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 21:42 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Baker: Senior executive hires require less pre-defined role scope
“I think the more senior the leader is that you're recruiting, the less defined the role needs to be.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 23:58 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Ed Baker: Executive hires not asking CEOs for help is a red flag
“I'd say it's almost a red flag if the person you've just hired is not asking you for help as founder or CEO.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 29:53 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Insight
Ed Baker: Core Virality Frameworks Have Remained Unchanged Over Decades
“The basic framework of virality is the same today as it was even 20 years ago when I first started working on it, in terms of how you calculate your K-factor and how you draw out the viral loop. The framework is the same, but the channels themselves have chang…”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 44:06 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
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Ed Baker says Friendly reached 25 million users with zero marketing spend
“That grew to about twenty-five million registered users all through viral growth, no market”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 4:25 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
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Ed Baker: Facebook's North Star metric was monthly active users
“Well, so at Facebook, when I was there, the North Star metric was monthly active users.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 9:50 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
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Ed Baker: Uber selected weekly trips as its North Star metric
“Similarly at Uber, our North Star metric, in fact, one of the first things I did when I started the growth team at Uber was said to the team, we've got to come up with our North Star metric. We decided on, instead of something like monthly active riders, We sa…”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 10:16 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @
Disclosure
Baker: Uber CEO Travis Kalanick onboarded growth head without formal process
“So when I think back to my onboarding experience at Uber, for example, there wasn't much to it. I was basically told by our CEO, who was my manager, here are five people for you to start the growth team with. Go.”
Ed Baker Feb 16, 2022 ▶ 27:18 20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Team and Scaling Facebook's, How To Structure The Hiring Process for Growth and What Separates Good From Great in Growth Leaders with Ed Baker, Former VP of Growth @

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Statements about Ed Baker, by other people (2)

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Uber Built Its Growth Team by Hiring Cross-Functional Leaders Simultaneously
“When we built growth at Uber, like we infused an entire team In one fell swoop, right? Like, and Ed was hired, and he hired myself, a head of product, a head of engineering, a head of design head of analytics.”
Adam Grenier Mar 15, 2023 ▶ 17:46 Adam Grenier: The Inside Story to Uber’s Hypergrowth; How We Spent $1B/mo in China | E989 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Ed Baker Imported Facebook's Growth Organizational Structure to Uber
“Uber was really the first place that we called it growth, right? I was hired by Ed Baker. He brought over the kind of Facebook structure that they had built at Facebook.”
Adam Grenier Mar 15, 2023 ▶ 1:46 Adam Grenier: The Inside Story to Uber’s Hypergrowth; How We Spent $1B/mo in China | E989 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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EpisodeDateSpeaking time
20VC: When to Make Your First Growth Hire? Senior or Junior? How To Onboard Them? How To M compilation Nov 25, 2022 3m
20VC The Memo: Inside the Growth Engines of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Instacart wit compilation Mar 25, 2022 4m
20Growth: Five Key Functions of a Growth Team, The Biggest Lessons Starting Uber's Growth Feb 16, 2022 34m
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