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Stripe's $8B OpenRouter Bet | Anthropic's First Profit & The Math Behind Reaching $600B in Revenue?
- ▶ 0:16 Jason Lemkin It'll be like the scale acquisition.
- ▶ 12:08 Jason Lemkin If I was Alex at scale and I got twenty four billion and I had a tough business, maybe, but this one, man, I'll, I'll take Elon over that one.
- ▶ 26:03 Jason Lemkin I think it'll be like the scale acquisition.
Leo Aschenbrenner's Situational Awareness Blows Up | Moonshot AI Raises $3.5B at $35B
- ▶ 1:08:45 Harry Stebbings We have new CEO at Scale AI, um, as an option. 3 times in the scene
Arena CEO: There Will be a $100BN US Open-Source Model & Data is a Trillion Dollar Market
- ▶ 43:54 Anastasios Angelopoulos So is Scale. 4 times in the scene
Jensen's Open-Weights Letter | Google Cloud Grows 82% But The Market Tanks
- ▶ 30:14 Jason Lemkin And as they scale at a level we've never seen before, this isn't just someone that left the flash drive at Scales office, or, or, or, or, or, or dropped the laptop in the subway, or even left, even left a GitHub open.
Should the US Ban Chinese Open-Source Models | OpenRouter's Chance To Sell | Stripe Buying PayPal
- ▶ 38:39 Harry Stebbings That I can guarantee you when you look at McCall hitting two billion in ARL.
Enterprises Fear Frontier Models | Sam Altman Offers Trump 5% of OpenAI | DeepSeek Builds Own Chips · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 39:47 unnamed speaker Did he overpay for scale and Alex went, maybe, I mean, probably, right? 2 times in the scene
Mercor CEO: Why Application Layer Companies Have No Moat & The Cost of Hiring AI Researchers · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 8:11 Brendan Foody Um, like obviously I think that, uh, Meta's a unique customer because of the scale acquisition. 2 times in the scene
SpaceX's Financials Leaked: Is it Worth $2TN | Meta Debuts Muse Spark: Are They Back in the AI Race? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 5:41 unnamed speaker And hey, that's, that's enough that I'm not gonna do it against Scales website, but if I could, if I could simplify that and distribute it against every single thing with any PI on it, you know, bad actors are just gonna hit everybody.
- ▶ 41:53 Harry Stebbings Uh, on, on that topic, uh, Alex Wang, uh, founder of scale, obviously now at Facebook following the acquisition of scale. 2 times in the scene
OpenAI Buys TBPN & Their Management Team Reboot | Mercor Hack & Why Now is the Time for Cyber · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:15:57 unnamed speaker The more freedom you have to route that to what's left at scale or whatever the guys at handshake want to do or whatever they want to do.
Anthropic vs The Pentagon: Who Wins? | The Data Center Arms Race | The Ultimate Stock Picks · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 21:07 Jason Lemkin It's, it's, and if your AI has full context, full history, has every deal that's ever been done at scale, every deal in the last year, every deal any VC has done, every article, every interview, is it hard to imagine that that AI 2 times in the scene
"Cursor is Dead" is Total BS: Here is Why | Miles Clements · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 42:27 Miles Clements My partner, Dan Levine incubating scale AI, building a relationship with Alex Wang in 2016 and making that investment. 4 times in the scene
Predictions for 2026: Top Buy & Biggest Short | Why Salesforce Could Win & NVIDIA’s Challenges · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 6:40 unnamed speaker No, scale, Alex.
Turing CEO Jonathan Siddharth: Who Wins in Data Labelling & Why 99% of Knowledge Work Will Disappear · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 37:27 Jonathan Siddharth I mean, we know what happened with the, you know, you know, when the scale investment happened again, like the, it, it was, um, 6 times in the scene
Anthropic Raises $30B from Microsoft & NVIDIA & NVIDIA’s Core Business Faces TPU Threat · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 14:25 unnamed speaker And we saw a scale AI created huge value. 2 times in the scene
Benchmark's GP, Everett Randle on Why Mega Funds Will Not Produce Good Returns · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:04:36 Harry Stebbings I think Tiger will do much better than anyone anticipated when you look at their positions in scale, open AI, and the protection that they're going to get from a load of lick prefs that they do actually have, meaning a lot of them will get…
OpenAI Restructuring: Who Wins and Who Loses & Mercor Raises $350M at a $10BN Valuation · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 28:34 unnamed speaker Scale AI, which was acquired by, partially acquired by Meta, is in the same board market. 2 times in the scene
Thinking Machines Co-Founder Joins Meta for $3.5BN, Industry Venture's $665M Acquisition · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 18:34 unnamed speaker Create some oxygen for others, but like, you know, some of these, some of these deals like scale AI were basically, you know, I saw that and I, like, it reminded me of the old style, you know, the asset purchase versus a stock purchase,…
OpenAI's Multi-Billion Deal with AMD & Polymarket, Vercel and Supabase Raise Mega Rounds · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 34:06 Rory O'Driscoll If scale AI is worth 14 and then you're like that, you're worth 15, so you can pay 15. 2 times in the scene
Cerebras CEO, Andrew Feldman on Why Raise $1BN and Delay the IPO & Why NVIDIA’s Worried About Growth · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:11:09 Andrew Feldman Well, scale sort of pioneered it.
Opendoor CEO, Kaz Nejatian: OpenAI and Oracle, How Can Either Afford to Do This · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 43:00 unnamed speaker I mean, to some extent that happened at scale AI.
- ▶ 50:37 Harry Stebbings And Rory, thanks to your description of an empty husk with scale AI.
- ▶ 1:09:51 Harry Stebbings Is number one really unacquirable when scale gets bought for 14.9 billion dollars?
Mercor CEO & Co-Founder, Brendan Foody: How They Grew from $1M to $500M in 17 Months · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 0:10 Brendan Foody We were already at a nine-figure revenue run rate, and the company quadrupled since the scale acquisition. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 8:03 Brendan Foody And I'll give the backstory of sort of how we really got involved in the market in the first place, which is that scale AI came to us, uh, and they used our platform to hire thousands of people. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:41 Harry Stebbings Can I ask you, when scale got bored, did your phone just go off the hook? 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 20:03 Brendan Foody It was, I mean, we had already been growing extremely quickly, and the fact that we were already such a deep partner to all of the frontier labs was one of the key things that positioned us so well, uh, when the scale news happened to, uh,… 6 times in the scene
OpenAI’s $10BN Secondary Sale, Ramp Hits $1BN ARR & Brex Hits $700M · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 0:15 Jason Lemkin The scale was for sale for twenty eight billion.
- ▶ 14:28 Rory O'Driscoll I would argue in both scale AI's perspective and, you know, Winsurf's perspective, the objective facts were you, the, the offers being made, let's call them the attempted acquisitions. 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 25:59 Jason Lemkin And this sounds, seems like a better deal than buying the, buying scale. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 44:28 Rory O'Driscoll Scale some one of these label guys that says we have bought for you and just for you, 500,000 bucks, scanned them just for you.
Anthropic Raises $13BN & OpenAI Buys Statsig for $1.1BN All Stock · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 17:08 Harry Stebbings You know what I love is the transience of Zuck, where it's like, you know, Zuck's a hero, and then Zuck, what a fool for buying Scale. 13 times in the scene
BVP Partner, Byron Deeter: The Future of Venture - Why Chanel vs Walmart is BS · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:12:48 Harry Stebbings When I look at scale, when I look at OpenAI, and I look at quite a few that actually they're in with me, they're at the top of the pref stack, and they're in like, 50, sixty million ARR companies at three, four hundred million prices, with…
Databricks at $100BN, CoreWeave’s $11B Debt Bet & Nubank’s $2.5B Profit Shocker - Ep.19 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:30:55 Jason Lemkin Scales bought for whatever we call it, 15 or thirty billion, depending on how you look at it, right?
Lovable CEO, Anton Osika: The State of Foundation Models, Grok vs OpenAI, and Replit vs Bolt · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:02:14 Harry Stebbings It's like the scale AI competitor, but it's actually phenomenally successful.
- ▶ 1:08:05 Harry Stebbings Like I said, Surge for me is one, which is like scale AI, but fundamentally a much better business.
Sam Altman's Masterplan or a Gift to Anthropic? Palantir & Shopify Crush Earnings · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:16:21 Rory O'Driscoll I mean, you have, interestingly enough, in some deals, Meta gets reported as an investment in scale AI because they quote, put the money in, you know, so in theory it's a venture investment, which is absurd, but you have big runs for…
Index Ventures Partner, Martin Mignot: Figma, Scale, Wiz: Inside Index’s Decacorn Factory · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:18:52 Harry Stebbings For me, when you look at the eight to nine, sorry, you've got Revolut, Figma, Wiz, Scale,
Miles Dieffenbach: Inside Carnegie Mellon’s $4BN Endowment & The Math Behind DPI, TVPI, Illiquidity · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 42:45 Miles Dieffenbach I mean, largest shareholder in Figma, largest shareholder in Dream Games, largest shareholder in Wiz, um, you know, second largest shareholder in Scale.ai, Revolut.
- ▶ 1:05:39 Harry Stebbings Scale, Wiz, Dream Games, Figma, Revolut, Secondaries, um, Circle, uh, CoreWeave, uh, Hinge Health, which IPO'd, uh, Chime,
- ▶ 1:11:11 Harry Stebbings You see Meta throwing out 14.9 billion dollars for scale.
Why Apple Needs a Management Overhaul & Why Google is Catching Up with Hyperscalers · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 23:01 Harry Stebbings Well, we, we, we can move on, but I actually would go that Tiger will do better than people think, given their position, given their positions in open AI scale.
Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 34:25 Harry Stebbings Another one that I guess is probably quite an important one is scale of selling and the movement of customers away. 5 times in the scene
Windsurf x Google x Cognition: Full Breakdown: Who Made Money, Who Did Not · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 16:19 Rory O'Driscoll And the scale one was slightly different. 3 times in the scene
Figma’s IPO: The Full Breakdown & Why Melio’s $2.5BN Acquisition is “Discouraging” · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 19:02 Harry Stebbings The other thing that's just insane with this guys is it's going to be three and a half billion back to index between this and scale. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 54:50 Jason Lemkin You know, in some minor ways, it became a scale for legal, right?
- ▶ 1:01:05 Harry Stebbings Surge AI, which is a scale competitor, is now raising first time money at a billion dollars at a fifteen billion dollar valuation. 6 times in the scene
Navan Files to Go Public and Canva Pulls the Brakes: Why and What Happens? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:12 Harry Stebbings How did we think about this following the scale acquisition, and how did you guys analyze it? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 7:10 unnamed speaker And no one, and for the record, no one in any, with the exception of Scale AI who was selling to them, no one who was in any of the other rooms where the magic didn't happen is ever going to get that kind of money, right? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 14:17 unnamed speaker At least, um, Alexander from Scale gave his, his VCs back fifteen billion.
Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 0:00 unnamed speaker There's no way that scale can recover from losing its founders.
- ▶ 0:48 Harry Stebbings Uh, we're also thrilled to be joined by Garrett from Handshake, so I wanted to start with the news of scale and the acquisition there, and so I'm gonna start with obviously scale, 14.83 billion to meta. 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 6:38 unnamed speaker Because one could argue that scale, the asset that Meta may think it's bored is that scale AI has a lot of knowledge just by virtue of the questions that are being asked and the kind of expertise that people are seeking from them has a lot… 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 16:21 Harry Stebbings Do we see now LPs return to the game at speed with Chime, with Circle, with Scale, coming back? 10 times in the scene
- ▶ 23:08 unnamed speaker In terms of CEOs moving around, as we have with Alex at scale there, Delian tweeted about Jason at Discord being removed, um, potentially by benchmark due to delayed IPO of Discord.
- ▶ 40:41 unnamed speaker This is the opposite of scale in some ways. 3 times in the scene
Larry Aschebrook, Founder & MP @GSquared: How We Lost Money on Uber and Made Millions on Lyft · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:27:39 Larry Aschebrook Um, and then on the business models themselves, let's play a, a scale AI and software to help them scale on the hyperscaler side and, and focus the balance of our capital on our other mega trends where the AI has been embedded into all…
OpenAI, SBF & Perplexity: What VCs Know That You Don’t · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 13:26 Harry Stebbings Uh, but positions with open AI and scale actually is proving to make some of their fun performance not look so bad. 3 times in the scene
20VC Exclusive: Mercury Founder Launches First $26M Fund with Immad Akhund · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 17:47 Immad Akhund So, you know, I, I saw scale AI, uh, and I was like, okay, you know, like good idea, but these people are so young. 2 times in the scene
20Product: How Scale AI and Harvey Build Product | Why PMs Are Wrong: They are not the CEOs of the Product | How to do Pre and Post Mortems Effectively and How to Nail PRDs | The Future of Product Management in a World of AI with Aatish Nayak
- ▶ 0:58 Harry Stebbings This is also his third hyper-growth AI unicorn, having previously held product leadership roles at Scale AI from 40 to 800 people, and Shield AI from 20 to a hundred people.
- ▶ 6:17 Harry Stebbings I have to ask, Scale is a generational defining company in many respects. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 10:07 Aatish Nayak People are using the labeling products and, and, you know, different scale products, and prototype and build right there.
- ▶ 12:26 Harry Stebbings The core components of what it takes to build an unbelievable company-like scale. 6 times in the scene
- ▶ 29:40 Aatish Nayak So one general thing that, you know, again, this is actually coming from a lot of learnings at scale.
- ▶ 42:02 Aatish Nayak A lot of public legal benchmarks, and then even things like, you know, scales, uh, humanities last exam, they're all multiple choice.
20VC: The Daily Deal: Coreweave IPO | Scale Hits $25BN on $2BN EOY Revenue | Sequoia's 25x Return on Wiz | Tech Stocks Tank with Tariffs | Cursor: Defensible or Dangerous Example of Lost Moats in Tech
- ▶ 9:27 Jason Lemkin Or, or even scale, right? 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 18:20 Harry Stebbings What do they do to make themselves more attractive or packaged more correctly in a world of your macaws and your scales where just insane growth is so inherent in investors' minds?
Jake Saper, GP @ Emergence Capital: "We Sold Salesforce Early and Lost Out on Billions" · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 38:15 Jake Saper His co-founder came from Scale AI.
Adarsh Hiremath @ Mercor: The Fastest Growing Startup in Silicon Valley | E1261 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 9:24 Harry Stebbings And that it used to go to say a scale or a stripe of old, and now it goes to you.
Zachary Bookman: Why Valuations and Fundraising are BS | E1235 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:00:24 Harry Stebbings You know, would I have been hanging out with Alex Wang at scale, who's kind of similar age to me, and investing in him, and.
Zico Kolter: OpenAI's Newest Board Member on The Biggest Questions and Concerns in AI Safety | E1197 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 44:46 Harry Stebbings Alex Wang at scale said a brilliant line on the show.
Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 9:30 Harry Stebbings One thing that while we're on kind of utility value of data, when we look at effectiveness of agents, you know, I've had Alex Wang, you know, scale.ai on the show, and he said the hardest thing about like building effective agents is most…
- ▶ 41:49 Harry Stebbings You know, we had Alex Wang from Scale On
Aidan Gomez: What No One Understands About Foundation Models | E1191 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 12:23 Aidan Gomez We push a lot on that as well as having like a human annotation force and scale as a partner for that.
David Cahn: Why Servers, Steel and Power Are the Pillars Powering the Future of AI | E1186 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 28:51 Harry Stebbings I had Alex Wang on the show not too long ago from scale, and he said, really, there's like three things. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 1:10:56 David Cahn Obviously, he was one of the early investors in Confluence, Scale AI.
Ethan Mollick: Why OpenAl Abandons Products, The Biggest Opportunities They Have Not Taken | E1184 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 10:08 Harry Stebbings You're Alex Wang's at scales who say that data is the core bottleneck.
Michael Eisenberg: How China Could Overtake the US in the AI Race | E1167 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 24:23 Harry Stebbings So we had Alex from Scale AI on the show the other day, and he said the thing that we're not talking about enough is that, you know, really, AI is the most demonstrable power that any country or nation can hold and leverage in a, in a case…
Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 25:02 Harry Stebbings How do you think about, I'm just intrigued with Scale AI today and working with some of the largest enterprises, a services component, the learning and adoption curve is challenging for large enterprises.
- ▶ 45:53 Harry Stebbings Scale AI predicts military devastation with this episode, because I'm not there to just optimize for clicks. 7 times in the scene
- ▶ 53:15 Harry Stebbings How many people do you have in scale today? 4 times in the scene
- ▶ 57:21 Harry Stebbings It feels like from the outside, scale's hot again.
- ▶ 1:02:00 Alex Wang My perspective on AI has changed in the successive eras, and I mention this because, um, you know, I started the company in 2016. 3 times in the scene
Mario Schlosser: "How to Deal with a 94% Decline in Market Cap" | E1136 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 35:36 Harry Stebbings Like, you know, Alex Wang at scale is my age.
Gili Raanan: One of the Best Seed Investor of All Time: 1 Decacon, 7 Unicorns, 4 Acquisitions| E1128 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 18:32 Harry Stebbings You should slam me as an LP if I'm not incredibly honed on, on where I sit, market analysis, where the future venture market is going, just in terms of thoughts, you know, I, by no means comparing myself to any of these names, but the…
Joe Lonsdale: The Future of TikTok; Is it a Danger to US National Security? | E1125 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 2:55 Harry Stebbings Um, I could compare myself to Alex Wang at scale, and you know, the dude has created a multi-billion dollar company where I've created a fucking podcast and a fund, like, which I love, but like, let's just call the spade a spade.
Guillermo Rauch: Why Great Companies are Defined by How Many Things They Say No To | E1069 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 1:07:51 Guillermo Rauch So just to give you some examples, I invested in this company called Scale AI. 2 times in the scene
Miles Grimshaw: The 5 Pillars of Venture Capital & Why Co-Pilot is an Incumbent Strategy | E1061 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 48:19 Miles Grimshaw Uh, Dylan at Figma, Zach at Plaid, uh, and, um, and Alex at Scale, and I have enormous respect for all three of them, um, got to know all three of them really early, and I just, I struggled with it.
Emad Mostaque: These 5 Companies Will Win the AI War; Why We Need National Data Sets | E1015 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- ▶ 51:52 Emad Mostaque Like, what are they, like, scale is now going fully into defense. 4 times in the scene
20VC: The Twilio Memo: Bessemer's Byron Deeter on How a $125K Initial Check Became Bessemer's Largest Position, What The Influx of Late-Stage Capital Means For Venture Today & Why The Incumbent Advantage Is Now An Incumbent Disadvantage
- ▶ 3:09 Harry Stebbings They've grown with over a thousand startups like Scale.ai, Lattice, and OpenAI, and no one can help you scale like they can.
- ▶ 42:24 Harry Stebbings They've grown with over a thousand startups like Scale.ai, Lattice, and OpenAI, and no one can help you scale like they can.
20VC: The Roblox Memo: First Round's Chris Fralic on The 17 Year Journey to Build a $41BN Market Cap Company, Why It Is Way Harder To Increase Ownership Across Rounds Today & What Happens Post SPACMania
- ▶ 2:54 Harry Stebbings They've grown with over a thousand startups like Scale.ai, Lattice, and OpenAI, and no one can help you scale like they can.
- ▶ 36:14 Harry Stebbings They've grown with over a thousand startups like Scale.ai, Lattice, and OpenAI, and no one can help you scale like they can.
20VC: Accel's Dan Levine on The Current State of Seed & Series A, The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds, Solo Capitalists and Multi-Stage Funds Entering Seed & Market, People and Product; What To Prioritise?
- ▶ 0:31 Harry Stebbings Following that time at Dropbox, he then rejoined Excel, and has led investments in the likes of Scale.ai, Mux, Vercel, and Sentry, to name a few. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 9:47 Daniel Levine So even when I'm not working at a company, like, how would I think about a Slack, or a Scale, or a Mux, or a ReadMe, or in the context of what would be going on in a place like Dropbox?
- ▶ 31:32 Daniel Levine Scale, the first deal was at a fifteen million dollar post money, and we bought 25% of the business.
- ▶ 39:29 Daniel Levine I work with Mike Volpe from Index, led the series B in scale and joined the board, and I've really enjoyed working with him.
20VC: Matrix's Ilya Sukhar on How The Seed Ecosystem Could Be Optimised, Why The Bar For The Break-Out Series A Has Risen & The Art of Effective Referencing
- ▶ 1:02 Harry Stebbings He has one of the best tracks I think I've seen in the business, including the likes of former guests last week in the form of Scale, Checker, Algolia, Airtable, GitLab, the list goes on, and, ah, incredible portfolio there.
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