Scale AI

also referred to as: scale.ai

36 statements across 14 episodes · 17 bullish · 8 bearish · 12 people on the record · first statement Sep 6, 2019 by Alex Wang · said 235 times in 62 episodes since 2019 · across every show →

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Sep 6, 2019
Insight
Wang: Building personal relationships with board members enables direct feedback
“The thing that's gone the furthest for me is just really building close personal relationships with the members of my board. And that's probably been like The number one thing that I think has helped me because I think it means that with this relationship with…”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 23:22 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019 bullish
Prediction Held up
Alex Wang: Scale AI Will Build Full ML Infrastructure Suite Over 5 Years
“And so I think as we look at the next five years, we want to build out all of the pieces of infrastructure, all of the tools, all of the platforms that would allow more and more organizations to be successful, effective, and productive with machine learning so…”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 27:40 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Alex Wang: Synthetic data is nowhere close to impacting machine learning progress
“It hasn't really worked in practice in most situations, particularly when it comes to visual data or even textual data. It really hasn't worked, and a lot of the reasons why it's sort of limited in terms of its overall impact is that at the end of the day, whe…”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 14:00 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Scale AI Series C process with Founders Fund took under a week
“I think it was probably less than a week of due process.”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 21:35 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019
Insight
Alex Wang: Building a better product is almost never enough to win
“And so it's really naive to think that like, oh, we can just build a better product and then we'll win. That's basically, I think it's almost never true. I think you always need to build a better product. Yes. But you also need to realize that you need to be b…”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 19:59 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019
Insight
Wang: Early startup hires should take big salary cuts for equity
“Now, I actually think that's negative. I think you do really want people who are okay to Taking a massive salary cut, and then really excited about getting more equity. And even though a lot of founders might view their equity as very precious, particularly ea…”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 18:25 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
Scale AI Achieves $1 Billion Valuation After $100M Series C
“With their recently announced a hundred million dollar series C, their valuation surpassed the one billion dollar mark, making their 22 year old founder one of the youngest to do so.”
Harry Stebbings Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 0:10 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Sep 6, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Alex Wang: Scale AI counts OpenAI, Waymo, Uber, and Lyft as clients
“We at scale, we work with Very innovative companies are actually using AI and machine learning and deep learning in particular. So we work with folks like OpenAI and Waymo and Uber and Lyft and all these folks.”
Alex Wang Sep 6, 2019 ▶ 9:22 20VC: Scale Founder Alex Wang on How To Hire Incredible Talent Before You Are A Hot Company, Why Beating Competition Is Not As Clear Cut As Investors Believe & Why AI Is Under-Hyped Today In Terms of Total Impact
Nov 12, 2020 positive
Disclosure
Levine: Accel bought 20% of Sentry at $6M, 25% of Scale
“The first investment I led in Century was at a six million dollar post money, and we purchased about 20% of the business. That was five years ago. Scale, the first deal was at a fifteen million dollar post money, and we bought 25% of the business.”
Daniel Levine Nov 12, 2020 ▶ 31:27 20VC: Accel's Dan Levine on The Current State of Seed & Series A, The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds, Solo Capitalists and Multi-Stage Funds Entering Seed & Market, People and Product; What To Prioritise?
Sep 18, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Grimshaw regrets missing early investments in Figma, Plaid, and Scale AI
“Dylan at Figma, Zach at Plaid and Alex at Scale, and I have enormous respect for all three of them got to know all three of them really early, and I just, I struggled with it.”
Miles Grimshaw Sep 18, 2023 ▶ 48:19 Miles Grimshaw: The 5 Pillars of Venture Capital & Why Co-Pilot is an Incumbent Strategy | E1061 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 12, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Alex Wang rejects team hiring recommendations up to 30% of the time
“I would say maybe on average, 25 to 30%, like a lot.”
Alex Wang Jun 12, 2024 ▶ 54:14 Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 12, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Alex Wang personally approves every single hire at Scale AI
“At this point in the company, still, I approve every hire, so I will look at The, I will either indirectly interview or look at the interview feedback and look at the understand every single person who we hire to ensure that we're keeping an exceptionally high…”
Alex Wang Jun 12, 2024 ▶ 53:33 Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 12, 2024 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wang: Only the most sophisticated companies will mine internal data within five years
“I don't think everyone will, but certainly the most sophisticated companies will.”
Alex Wang Jun 12, 2024 ▶ 15:18 Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 12, 2024
Insight
Alex Wang: Hypergrowth hiring makes it impossible to maintain a high talent bar
“When you hire that quickly, it is impossible to do what we've just been talking about, which is maintaining this high bar and maintaining this sort of feeling of excellence within the team.”
Alex Wang Jun 12, 2024 ▶ 56:19 Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 12, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wang: Most serious enterprises will adopt on-premise AI models
“And this is actually why I think there's a very there's a very big sort of opportunity for whether it's open source models or the llama models or the mistral models or whatnot, basically these models that can go on prem and that enterprises can take. And then …”
Alex Wang Jun 12, 2024 ▶ 24:15 Alex Wang: Why Data Not Compute is the Bottleneck to Foundation Model Performance | E1164 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 11, 2025
Disclosure
Nayak: Scale AI Flew Engineers Globally to Observe Labeling Tool Usage
“And so we would actually even fly engineers out to training centers all around the world to literally observe how. People are using the labeling products and, you know, different scale products, and prototype and build right there.”
Aatish Nayak Apr 11, 2025 ▶ 10:00 20Product: How Scale AI and Harvey Build Product | Why PMs Are Wrong: They are not the CEOs of the Product | How to do Pre and Post Mortems Effectively and How to Nail PRDs | The Future of Product Management in a World of AI with Aatish Nayak
Apr 11, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Stebbings: Scale AI Will Reach $2 Billion in Revenue by Late 2025
“Just raised it at twenty-five billion dollars. It ends this year at two billion dollars.”
Harry Stebbings Apr 11, 2025 ▶ 6:21 20Product: How Scale AI and Harvey Build Product | Why PMs Are Wrong: They are not the CEOs of the Product | How to do Pre and Post Mortems Effectively and How to Nail PRDs | The Future of Product Management in a World of AI with Aatish Nayak
Apr 11, 2025
Assertion Supported
Nayak: Scale AI Partnered With OpenAI on Early GPT-2 RLHF
“Scale partnered with open AI very, very early on before chat GPT came out. This was like very early on RLHF when they were trying to tune models to summarize better based off of Reddit passages. And this is on GPT two.”
Aatish Nayak Apr 11, 2025 ▶ 8:22 20Product: How Scale AI and Harvey Build Product | Why PMs Are Wrong: They are not the CEOs of the Product | How to do Pre and Post Mortems Effectively and How to Nail PRDs | The Future of Product Management in a World of AI with Aatish Nayak
Apr 11, 2025
Disclosure
Nayak: Scale AI labeled e-commerce data for Meta, Instacart, and DoorDash
“Like I started the e-commerce team at scale where we were labeling e-commerce data, like from Meta, from Instacart, from DoorDash.”
Aatish Nayak Apr 11, 2025 ▶ 15:21 20Product: How Scale AI and Harvey Build Product | Why PMs Are Wrong: They are not the CEOs of the Product | How to do Pre and Post Mortems Effectively and How to Nail PRDs | The Future of Product Management in a World of AI with Aatish Nayak
May 12, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Akhund: I passed on Scale AI because the founders were too young
“I saw scale AI and I was like, okay, you know, like good idea, but these people are so young. I think they were like 19 and 20 at the time or something. I was like, yeah, this is like, I was like, I think I could run this company better if I was doing it and I…”
Immad Akhund May 12, 2025 ▶ 17:47 20VC Exclusive: Mercury Founder Launches First $26M Fund with Immad Akhund · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 19, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: Scale AI revenue will rapidly decline following Meta deal
“If only OpenAI is committed to maintaining that, As a partial presence, I assume the revenue will decline rapidly, right?”
Jason Lemkin Jun 19, 2025 ▶ 1:56 Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 19, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: Accel made $2.5 billion and Paige Craig 1,000x on Scale
“Excel made 2.5 billion dollars. Well done, Daniel Levine. Amazing seed bet early. Paige Craig led a pre-seed, a thousand extra turn.”
Harry Stebbings Jun 19, 2025 ▶ 22:45 Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 19, 2025 bearish
Opinion
O'Driscoll: Scale AI cannot sell to LLM providers competing with Meta
“Practically speaking, it's hard to imagine an independent, viable business selling to the LLMs who are the competitors to your 49% owner, where your founder and charismatic CEO is currently working.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 19, 2025 ▶ 20:28 Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 19, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: Meta took 49% non-voting Scale AI stake for $14 billion
“Facebook slash Meta announced a fascinating transaction whereby they, that definitely is a bit of a head scratcher, whereby they invested fourteen billion into scale AI, took 49% non-voting control, allowed the other investors to literally take that money back…”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 19, 2025 ▶ 4:06 Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 19, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: Scale AI reached $800M to $900M revenue before Meta deal
“It's an amazing business. It grew to eight, nine hundred million dollars.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 19, 2025 ▶ 3:08 Chime IPO: Are IPOs Hotter Than Ever? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
O'Driscoll: Accel likely generated a $2 billion gain on Scale AI
“If Alexander Wang's highest and best use is as a senior employee at Meta, then isn't it wonderful that the free market system was able to pay everyone else, fifteen billion dollars, all power to excel who probably booked a two billion dollar gain here.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 26, 2025 ▶ 14:57 Navan Files to Go Public and Canva Pulls the Brakes: Why and What Happens? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 26, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: Scale AI returned $15B to its venture capital investors
“At least Alexander from Scale gave his VCs back fifteen billion.”
Jason Lemkin Jun 26, 2025 ▶ 14:17 Navan Files to Go Public and Canva Pulls the Brakes: Why and What Happens? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 21, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Edwin Chen: AI teams are abandoning body shops for high-quality data
“I mean, so I would say I'm pretty sure that a lot of these other companies, they are Like at the end of the day, people want high quality data and they don't want to be working with body shops. And so. I think we've seen, like, a massive wave interest because,…”
Edwin Chen Jul 21, 2025 ▶ 36:20 Surge CEO & Co-Founder, Edwin Chen: Scaling to $1BN+ in Revenue with NO Funding · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 31, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Stebbings: Tiger Global will outperform expectations due to OpenAI, Scale AI
“Tiger will do better than people think, given their position, given their positions in open AI scale.”
Harry Stebbings Jul 31, 2025 ▶ 23:01 Why Apple Needs a Management Overhaul & Why Google is Catching Up with Hyperscalers · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 4, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Index Ventures Is the Largest Shareholder in Figma, Dream Games, and Wiz
“Largest shareholder in Figma, largest shareholder in Dream Games, largest shareholder in Wiz you know, second largest shareholder in Scale.ai, Revolut.”
Miles Dieffenbach Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 42:45 Miles Dieffenbach: Inside Carnegie Mellon’s $4BN Endowment & The Math Behind DPI, TVPI, Illiquidity · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 11, 2025 negative
Opinion
O'Driscoll: AI reverse acqui-hires are regulatory shams leaving dead target companies
“We actually, in both of those cases, that's a pure pretense to get the government off of us, right? Everyone knows both of these companies are toast because in the case of Scale AI, in theory, Meta owns 50% of it, and in theory, their business is selling to ev…”
Rory O'Driscoll Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 18:00 OpenAI’s $10BN Secondary Sale, Ramp Hits $1BN ARR & Brex Hits $700M · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 15, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Mercor hit a nine-figure run rate and quadrupled post-Scale deal
“We were already at a nine-figure revenue run rate, and the company quadrupled since the scale acquisition.”
Brendan Foody Sep 15, 2025 ▶ 0:10 Mercor CEO & Co-Founder, Brendan Foody: How They Grew from $1M to $500M in 17 Months · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 15, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Scale AI lost its focus on product and quality
“But in some ways, scale lost the focus on product on scaling quality. And that was one of the largest challenges of the business.”
Brendan Foody Sep 15, 2025 ▶ 20:54 Mercor CEO & Co-Founder, Brendan Foody: How They Grew from $1M to $500M in 17 Months · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 15, 2025 positive
Assertion Open
Scale AI used Mercor's platform to hire thousands of workers
“Scale AI came to us and they used our platform to hire thousands of people.”
Brendan Foody Sep 15, 2025 ▶ 8:03 Mercor CEO & Co-Founder, Brendan Foody: How They Grew from $1M to $500M in 17 Months · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 15, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Mercor pays $95 per hour compared to $30 at Scale and Surge
“Our average marketplace pay rate is 95 dollars an hour to put that in frame of reference, scale and search generally pay about 30 dollars an hour.”
Brendan Foody Sep 15, 2025 ▶ 0:27 Mercor CEO & Co-Founder, Brendan Foody: How They Grew from $1M to $500M in 17 Months · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 9, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Clements: Accel avoids major celebrations even after $14.9B exits
“There's a an appropriate congratulations and acknowledgement to Dan. There is a huge, loud, full-throated thank you to Alex, and then everybody gets the fuck back to work, you know, and like, it's a humbling industry, and you are only as good as the next thing…”
Miles Clements Mar 9, 2026 ▶ 43:31 "Cursor is Dead" is Total BS: Here is Why | Miles Clements · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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