SAS

also referred to as: sas business

8 statements across 8 episodes · 3 bullish · 4 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Nov 7, 2016 by Justin Caldbeck · across every show →

Everything said about SAS, oldest first

Nov 7, 2016 positive
Insight
Caldbeck: Dedicated sector focus yields vastly superior VC pattern recognition
“If you're spending a hundred percent of your time looking at certain types of consumer companies, you can't help but pattern match in a better way than if you're spending 20% of your time on SAS and 15% of your time being a second partner on someone's, you kno…”
Justin Caldbeck Nov 7, 2016 ▶ 6:07 20VC: Binary's Justin Caldbeck on Specialisation Being Key To Success In VC, The Biggest Problem In VC Today and Why The Future Is A Moneyless Barter Economy
May 27, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
Ralston: Paul Graham's Viaweb was the first web SaaS business
“They had created really the first SAS business On the web at the time, which was an online shopping cart.”
Geoff Ralston May 27, 2019 ▶ 5:42 20VC: Y Combinator's New President, Geoff Ralston on The Single Most Important Perspective An Investor Can Provide A Founder, The Biggest Lessons From Working Alongside Paul Graham & Why You Will Lose As An Investor If You "Profile Invest"
Apr 27, 2020 positive
Insight
Howie Liu: Utility SaaS tools have no upper bound and can coexist
“And so I think like, especially since in SAS and these productivity or utility oriented areas, like there's no upper bound to how many new services can come out and create additive value. Like with consumer social, for instance, there was a finite amount of ti…”
Howie Liu Apr 27, 2020 ▶ 16:55 20VC: Airtable's Howie Liu on Potential Consolidation In The Collaboration Tools Market, The Transition From Peacetime To Wartime CEO & How To Make The Move To Remote Work Successful; The Process Beyond The Tools
Jan 31, 2024
Insight
Kellogg: Pitched against competitor hunters, SaaS customer success farmers always lose
“The single biggest sin in SAS is putting your farmer against someone else's hunter, right? Cause they will lose.”
Dave Kellogg Jan 31, 2024 ▶ 23:41 Dave Kellogg: How to Forecast in 2024 & Why CaC Payback is Flawed and CAC Ratio is Better | E1110 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 17, 2025 bearish
Opinion
O'Driscoll: Almost everything that could be done in SaaS has been done
“Anything that could have been done 20 years ago in SAS probably has been done. So I'm not rooting around in SAS land looking for a good deal, right?”
Rory O'Driscoll Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 16:18 a16z's $20BN Fund & Founders Fund's $4.6BN & Why Josh Kushner Has Mastered the Game · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 17, 2025 negative
Opinion
Lemkin calls 'roll your own' SaaS trend dumbest in his career
“The idea that the roll your own initiative, I think is the dumbest thing I've seen in SAS in my career.”
Jason Lemkin Jul 17, 2025 ▶ 35:38 Windsurf x Google x Cognition: Full Breakdown: Who Made Money, Who Did Not · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 11, 2025 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Lawson: AI will decimate SaaS seat bases and human workflow roles
“The thing I would say though about any company in SAS today, and Atlassian is a Prime example of this is they are primed for, ah, disruption right now because AI is going to decimate their seat base for their products. It'll decimate the roles people are playi…”
Jeff Lawson Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 59:19 OpenAI’s $10BN Secondary Sale, Ramp Hits $1BN ARR & Brex Hits $700M · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 11, 2026 bearish
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: SaaS stocks trade at historic discount to S&P 500
“SAS now trades at a discount to the S&P 500 for the first time in history.”
Harry Stebbings Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 1:09:04 SpaceX Launches Largest Ever IPO | OpenAI Files to Go Public | Uber Cuts 23% of HR · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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