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How Hims & Hers Reached a $4.3BN Market Cap on $2.3BN of Revenue | Andrew Dudum · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Apr 4, 2026 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 13:24 Andrew Dudum And it was, you know, front page of the New York times and it was, uh, uh, fun and silly and provocative.

Anthropic’s $10B Raise | a16z’s $15B Fund: Is the Middle Dead in VC? | How OpenAI Could Go to Zero? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jan 15, 2026 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 17:45 unnamed speaker So of course they're feeling nervous because you know, you got to play the game, but look, I saw some, I mean, actually I thought in the New York times this morning, I could be wrong.

Predictions for 2026: Top Buy & Biggest Short | Why Salesforce Could Win & NVIDIA’s Challenges · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Dec 22, 2025 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:11:09 unnamed speaker I think this will accelerate it when there's hard numbers at the top of the New York times and the wall street journal, assuming we still read anything at the end of next year.

a16z's David George on the Most Controversial Bet at a16z & Do Margins and Revenue Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Dec 15, 2025 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 54:53 David George And, you know, there was just an op-ed written in, um, I think it was New York Times, uh, that was like, it was done by a medical professional, and he said, okay, we now have enough data from Waymo that shows they are seven to 10 X safer…

20VC: Tim Ferriss: Why I Walked Away From Angel Investing After Uber | How I Accidentally Lost $150 Million | Money Fixed My Problems—Then Made Me Miserable Oct 31, 2025 · 7 mentions

  • ▶ 26:28 Tim Ferriss So there was a period of adjustment for sure after the first book hits and then stayed on the New York times list for four and a half years or whatever it was where I was very vulnerable because I had not experienced that.
  • ▶ 28:11 Tim Ferriss All five books have been number one, New York Times and or Wall Street Journal.
  • ▶ 33:05 Tim Ferriss It was announced in the New York Times, and it meant that Amazon was going to be acquiring authors, paying them, just like publishers would, and this freaked everybody out in the publishing world. 4 times in the scene
  • ▶ 40:24 Tim Ferriss So the book hits, meaning it hits the New York Times list, then it creeps up, boom, it's number one, then it just sticks there, and then it becomes this phenomenon where it's getting, like, parodied in TV shows and mentioned in pop culture.

Opendoor CEO, Kaz Nejatian: OpenAI and Oracle, How Can Either Afford to Do This · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Sep 18, 2025 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 20:23 unnamed speaker And there was a super article in New York times recently on basically why being public is a pain in the butt.

Elon’s Empire: SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink After the Storm & Anduril’s $2.6BN Power Move · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jun 12, 2025 · 1 mention

Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO @Snowflake: Deepseek is Not a Threat to OpenAI & OpenAI Beats Anthropic|E1258 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Feb 10, 2025 · 1 mention

Nabeel Hyatt, GP @ Spark Capital: To Win in AI, Investors Need to Change Their Approach | E1255 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Feb 3, 2025 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 44:55 Nabeel Hyatt And so in the mobile revolution, this was the New York Times makes NewYorkTimes.com on mobile, and that's the product, right?

Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn & Paypal Founder: Trump Administration, Elon Musk and DOGE | E1239 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Dec 16, 2024 · 1 mention

Zico Kolter: OpenAI's Newest Board Member on The Biggest Questions and Concerns in AI Safety | E1197 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Sep 4, 2024 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 31:53 Harry Stebbings So you will trust the New York Times tweet where it shows something, but you know, 3 times in the scene

Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Aug 28, 2024 · 1 mention

Ethan Mollick: Why OpenAl Abandons Products, The Biggest Opportunities They Have Not Taken | E1184 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jul 31, 2024 · 5 mentions

Pedro Franceschi: What Brex Needs to do to be a Public Company | E1178 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jul 17, 2024 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 32:32 Harry Stebbings And then that's a New York Times headline, Brex, the company that pays for 10 unbelievably talented children who wouldn't visit.

Michael Eisenberg: How China Could Overtake the US in the AI Race | E1167 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jun 19, 2024 · 2 mentions

Reid Hoffman: The Future of TikTok and The Inflection AI Deal | E1163 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jun 10, 2024 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 3:45 Harry Stebbings So like the New York Times becomes more valuable because it is a validated source of truth versus content creator called Sarah on Twitter who is not a validated source of truth.
  • ▶ 21:01 unnamed speaker Um, people frequently mistake what quality of data means because they think, oh, you have to train on the New York Times.

Keith Rabois & Mike Shebat: Creating an Olympian Mindset to Work Ethic| E1087 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Nov 27, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:02:14 Mike Shebat If only for a day, I think it would be interesting to be the CEO of the New York Times.

Jeff Seibert: Why OpenAI Will Become an Infrastructure Play | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Nov 22, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 57:10 Jeff Seibert And you can look back, there's newspaper articles in the New York Times from the thirties being like, we are going to be replaced by robots within the next decade.

Nick Tomaino: The Future of NFTs, What Will Happen with FTX & Who Should be Held to Account | E1076 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Oct 30, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:13:14 Nick Tomaino Whether it's, um, you know, the New York Times, or whether it's on X, you know, and, and everyone that creates media has their own biases.

Miles Grimshaw: The 5 Pillars of Venture Capital & Why Co-Pilot is an Incumbent Strategy | E1061 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Sep 18, 2023 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 1:18:00 Miles Grimshaw So to the, to the media one, um, actually in the New York Times is a, is an interesting position. 2 times in the scene

Gina Gotthilf: Lessons Scaling Duolingo from 3-200M Users; How to Master PR and Comms | E1028 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jun 21, 2023 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 31:35 unnamed speaker Two, I would not recommend that you now make a list of all of the New York Times journalists and try to pitch all of them. 2 times in the scene

Emad Mostaque: These 5 Companies Will Win the AI War; Why We Need National Data Sets | E1015 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings May 17, 2023 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 30:10 Emad Mostaque You know, this is where, rather than looking at the New York Times page, you have this formatted thing with no New York Times kind of stuff there. 2 times in the scene
  • ▶ 31:53 Emad Mostaque It's not because they have angles, you know, and so what is the bias of the New York Times versus this versus that versus others?

Tomasz Tunguz: How I Raised $230M; ChatGPT vs. Google; How LLMs Work; Trump vs DeSantis | E1004 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Apr 21, 2023 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 50:58 Tomasz Tunguz And that could come from the New York times and, and the publishers and Google have been fighting back and forth in Europe and other, other geographies. 3 times in the scene

Bill Ackman: SVB Collapse; Biden vs Trump; How I Lost $400M on Netflix; Bill's 10-Year Long | E991 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Mar 20, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 59:16 Bill Ackman So my, you know, the New York Times, uh, did a piece on, like, favorite ideas to help solve problems.

Adam Grenier: The Inside Story to Uber’s Hypergrowth; How We Spent $1B/mo in China | E989 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Mar 15, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 8:07 Adam Grenier Launching a class, a master class similar to, like, trying to get on the New York Times bestseller list, where you use the leverage of that talent to hit that spark right out of the gate to get the biggest audience in, like, one fell swoop.

Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger: The Founders of Instagram Reveal their New Project "Artifact" | E981 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Feb 22, 2023 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 21:15 Harry Stebbings Well, that was going to be my question, which is like, but I do want to move to Artifact, but that was going to be my final question before, which is like, you know, given the, the weight of both of your brands and the weight of Instagram,…

Basecamp CEO Jason Fried: We Banned Talking Politics and 1/3 of our Team Quit | 20VC #963 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jan 6, 2023 · 1 mention

Barry McCarthy: From Netflix CFO to Peloton CEO; How Netflix Beat Blockbuster | 20VC #962 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Dec 20, 2022 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 43:08 Barry McCarthy And, um, the only thing I'm reading is, is the New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Wall Street Journal every morning.

20VC: Bumble's Whitney Wolfe Herd on How The Best Leaders Manage Intense Pressure, How To Think Through Risk vs Reward Frameworks & What it Truly Means to Listen so Your Teams Will Talk Aug 26, 2022 · 1 mention

Tony Fadell: Why You Can't Be a Solo Founder; Mercenary vs. Missionary Operators | 20VC #910 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings Jul 25, 2022 · 3 mentions

  • ▶ 0:09 Harry Stebbings Tony, we've done this a couple of times, and, uh, we always start with the intro, and so we're gonna totally skip that today, and we're gonna dive straight into, um, the New York Times did 36 questions of love, and so these are the most…
  • ▶ 11:37 Harry Stebbings I mentioned this was another New York times love question.
  • ▶ 55:40 Tony Fadell Um, you know, build is now a New York Times bestseller, and, uh, I can start to feel the, you know, the sales so that it's going to help build the climate fund to, to address, uh, to, you know, you know, help these businesses addressing…

20VC: A Masterclass in Leadership and Scaling Companies: The Decisions only the CEO Can Make, The Secret To Talent Acquisition and Retention and How To Find The Unscalable Things that are Fundamental To Scale with Christa Quarles, CEO @ Corel Corporation Jul 29, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 2:58 Krista Quarles So.com one dot O and all of my friends were getting written up in the New York times out of Harvard and they were starting these startups.

20VC: Qualtrics Founder, Ryan Smith on The 2 Hour Decision Whether To Sell Qualtrics for $8Bn in Cash, Why Tying Your Identity To Your Company Will Never Make You Happy and His Relationship To Risk, Wealth and Responsibility as a Result May 11, 2021 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:35 Ryan Smith He talks about how he wanted to be the editor for the Wall Street Journal or the New York Times, whichever one it was, and here he was, like, a famous Harvard professor, and he's like, I'll get there someday, and he's like, in his sixties,…

20VC: Reid Hoffman on Investing in Airbnb and Passing on Stripe, The Different Styles of Truly Great Leaders, How To Think Through Ownership and Price in Venture & How To Ensure Venture Partnerships Always Have Trust and a Learning Mindset Dec 7, 2020 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:40 Harry Stebbings If that wasn't enough, though, Reid's also the co-author of Blitzscaling and two New York Times bestselling books, The Startup Review and The Alliance.

20VC: What Is Founder Narrative Fit and How to Detect and Invest In It, How To Avoid Consensus Thinking When Investing, Price Sensititivity; When To Pay Up vs Stay Disciplined & From New York Times To General Catalyst; Why Venture and Journalism are Not S Oct 1, 2020 · 4 mentions

  • ▶ 32:19 Katherine Boyle This summer, a number of very, very smart and thoughtful people have left the New York Times or New York Magazine, like Andrew Sullivan and Barry Weiss, and they've said, we're going to Substack because we can say what we believe, and we…
  • ▶ 34:40 Harry Stebbings Does that mean, like, I had Chris, founder of Substack, on the show, and he said that he fundamentally thought we'd see massive behemoths like your New York Times, your Wall Street Journals continue and prevail and be strong, and then you… 3 times in the scene

20VC: Loom Founder Joe Thomas on Whether To Take Multi-Stage Money at Seed, How Early Stage Founders Should Select Their VC, How Sequoia Won The Loom Deal & The 3 Rules To Operate Remote Teams Successfully Aug 7, 2020 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 21:10 Joe Thomas There were partners that came in and out of the video call, but what we did for one part of it was we actually went through that New York Times, like, 36 questions to fall in love, and we asked these really deep and meaningful questions of…

20VC: The Future of Subscription Media, Why Startups Need To Stop Blaming Facebook and Google & How Founders Should Think Through Customer Acquisition Channel Dependencies with Alex Mather, Founder & CEO @ The Athletic Jul 10, 2020 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 14:22 Alex Mather Early on in the company's history, I did a wide-ranging interview with the New York Times, and we were young.
  • ▶ 22:52 Harry Stebbings I do want to move on to kind of a final element, though, before we do the quick fire, and it's more of a macro picture on kind of the subscription media landscape more broadly, because I spoke to Chris at Substack on the show before, and…

20VC: Substack Founder Chris Best on The Future of Public Journalism, Why The Economics Of Attention Have Been Flipped & Why Micropayments For Content Will Not Work Jun 12, 2020 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 11:32 Chris Best And that either means being the best in the world by being really good and being the primary thing, you know, you're the New York Times of writing stuff.

20VC: Alexa Von Tobel on Raising NYC's Largest Ever Female Led Fund , Portfolio Construction, Compression of Fundraising Timelines, Reserves Management & Personal Branding in Venture Jan 31, 2020 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:39 Harry Stebbings Alexa is also the author of New York Times bestseller, Financially Fearless, and is a member of the Presidential Ambassadors for Global Entrepreneurship for the White House.

20VC: Firstmark's Rick Heitzmann on The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds, His Biggest Learnings From The Pinterest Board, 2 Things VCs Can Do To Prepare Their Companies For The Downturn and Why Now Is A Good Time to Be Contrarian and Invest In Consumer Nov 11, 2019 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:51 Harry Stebbings Rick's also been recognized by CB Insights and the New York Times as a top 100 VC globally.

20VC: a16z's Ben Horowitz on How To Create An Environment of Trust with Founders, How and Why Creating Shocking Rules Is So Impactful To Culture & What The Samurai, Shaka Senghor and Toussaint Teach Us About Company Culture Building Oct 28, 2019 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:38 Harry Stebbings Ben is also the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Hard Thing About Hard Things, and the upcoming Harper Business book, What you do is who you are, available on October the 29th.

20VC: Guild Education's Rachel Carlson on The Benefits of Scaling Startups Outside of Silicon Valley, Why Mission and Margin Are So Tightly Integrated & Why Mums Are The Most Under-Utilised Asset In The Economy Oct 11, 2019 · 1 mention

20VC: Index's Danny Rimer on His Biggest Lessons On Price, Ownership, Board Dynamics & Building Consumer Businesses from Backing The Likes of King, Skype, Farfetch, Glossier and more... Dec 3, 2018 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:58 Harry Stebbings He's also been on the coveted Forbes Midas list for more than a decade, and in 2017, Danny was appointed an officer of the Order of the British Empire, OBE, for his services to business and charity, and the New York Times included him in…

20VC: Casper Founder Philip Krim on The Right Way To Think About Marketing Channel Diversification, When To Accept Strategic Investors & How To Successfully Build Out Your Exec Team Aug 31, 2018 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:46 Harry Stebbings And due to his immense success, he's been profiled in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and been awarded a tech

20VC: The 2 Core Areas Value Will Accrue In Crypto, Why Crypto Will Drive The Re-Centralisation of Talent Back Into Silicon Valley & Why Regulation Is The Opposite of What We Should Be Concerned By in Crypto with Avichal Managing Partner @ Electric Capita Aug 20, 2018 · 1 mention

20VC: Why Fundraising Is Like Dating and How to Play The Game Successfully & How To Increase The Flexibility of Your Burn When Growth is Ambiguous with Rachel Blumenthal, Founder & CEO @ Rockets of Awesome Jul 13, 2018 · 1 mention

20VC: How To Think About Founder-Category Fit, Why The Biggest Opportunities Are In Category Re-Architecture & What Can Be Done To Increase The Amount of Women In VC with Nadia Boujarwah, Founder & CEO @ Dia & Co Feb 16, 2018 · 2 mentions

  • ▶ 2:38 Nadia Boujarwah You know, these are experiences that have been very formative for me in my personal life and somewhat fortuitously for six years ago at this point, Lydia and I were at Harvard business school together and we stumbled upon an article from…
  • ▶ 11:58 Harry Stebbings I read your profile on what you do on Sundays in, I think it was the New York Times, and you said one of the things was just assessing the performance of the business by looking at a couple of metrics.

20VC: a16z's Alex Rampell on The Struggle Between Innovation vs Distribution, When How To Determine Whether An Application is Optimised Through Centralised or Decentralised Networks & Why Most ICOs Today Are Ridiculous Nov 13, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 33:58 Alex Rampell So read the academic paper and not the secondary source that is a New York times article that is trying to summarize it, that is then taken as gospel.

20VC: The First ICO Blockchain Incubator Ever, Why ICO's Will Change The World of Venture As We Know It & How The M&A Market Will Respond To ICO's with Mike, Jones, Co-Founder @ Science Inc Aug 28, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:28 Harry Stebbings One of America's most successful incubators, with an incredible three science portfolio companies exiting in 2016 alone, with the sales of Dollar Shave Club to Unilever, Hello Society, which was acquired by New York Times, and FameBit,…

20VC: Why We Will Continue To See An Explosion In Deep Tech Financing, Why Much of Silicon Valley's Talent Is Going To Waste & How Fund Cycles Need To Be Adjusted To Work With Deep Tech with Seth Bannon, Founding Partner @ Fifty Years Aug 7, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 6:50 Seth Bannon It was popularized by Milton Friedman, Nobel Prize winning economist, in a 1971 op-ed in the New York Times called, The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits.

20VC: VC of The Year: Forerunner's Kirsten Green on 2 $Bn+ Exits in 1 Year, Why We Are In The Very Early Innings For Commerce & How Brand Has Fundamentally Changed Over The Last Decade Jul 17, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 23:36 Kirsten Green Like I'm kind of religiously read the New York times, the skim and the business of fashion every morning, but on the weekend on a rainy day, that's a long list, Harry.

20VC: Bessemer's Jeremy Levine on Why We Are In A Fallow Period For Consumer, Why It Is Bogus That Operational VCs Can Add More Value & 2 Golden Rules To Always Tell Entrepreneurs Pre-Investment Jun 26, 2017 · 1 mention

20VC: How Investors Can Get Into The Best Deals & Why Founders First Point Of Contact Should Be With The Investment Decision-Maker with Spencer Kimball, Founder & CEO @ Cockroach Labs Apr 14, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 25:31 Spencer Kimball Never fail to read every single article would be, uh, Ben Bernanke's blog at the Brookings Institute, and also Paul Krugman's blog, um, you know, that's sort of associated with his, his editorializing for the New York Times.

20VC: AngelList's Naval Ravikant on The Secrets To Success At Seed, Why Micro VC Is The Return of Traditional Series A & Why We Will See The Unbundling Of Traditional VC Brands Apr 10, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 14:13 Naval Ravikant My journalist analogy is that in the old days, if you want to be a journalist, you had to go work for the New York times, the Washington post and use their brand.

20VC: Why Valuation Is Of Critical Importance At Seed, How To Understand Innovation Cycles & Having 3 CEOs and Burning $10m a Month with Lee Hower, Co-Founder @ NextView Ventures Mar 8, 2017 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 22:28 Lee Hower I actually like, I strive every day to look at both the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, you know, digital editions, but the metaphorical front page, you know, I find that consuming general kind of news as well as business news…

20VC: The Future For 3D Printing? Why European VCs Are More Conservative Than US VCs & How 3D Printing Truly Changes The Manufacturing Process with Peter Weijmarshausen, Co-Founder & CEO @ Shapeways Dec 9, 2016 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 23:03 Peter Weimershausen I guess news, I'd love to read the New York Times, space.com, I'd love to keep up to date on what is happening in astronomy.

20VC: CEO Whisperer Jerry Colonna on How Investors Mimic Aggressive Behaviour To Cover Insecurity and Why Vulnerability is Key To Success In VC Nov 4, 2016 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 0:46 Harry Stebbings Flatiron then became one of the most successful early-stage investment firms in New York, with investments in the likes of Geocities, Gamesville, and the New York Times Digital.

20VC: Giphy's Adam Leibsohn on From Being Homeless To Founding a Multi Hundred Million Dollar Startup & The Challenges of Creating One of The World's Largest Search Engine Sep 9, 2016 · 2 mentions

20VC: Lerer Hippeau's Ben Lerer on 'Investing With Imagination', Strategies To Avoid Fomo & Develop Pattern Recognition As An Investor and Why We Have Seen The Rise of Direct To Consumer Business & Will This Continue With Further M&A Sep 5, 2016 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 28:09 Ben Lerer And, and Sam has just written an amazing book called for the love of money, which I believe is gonna, if it's not already a New York times bestsellers is well on its way to being one.

20VC: How To Win The Strategic Process Of Fundraising and Optimising Co-Founder Relationships and Break Ups with Kathryn Minshew, Founder & CEO @ The Muse Sep 2, 2016 · 2 mentions

20VC: Science Inc's Peter Pham on Why The Battle Between Entrepreneurs & VCs Is Unfair, How To Even The Playing Field & How To Tell When A VC Really Is Interested Aug 29, 2016 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 24:44 Peter Pham So far is every time we've had two exits this year, um, hello society, which was New York times and dollar shape club.

20VC: Creating A Competitive Process Between VCs & Having Bill Gurley As A Board Member with Aaron Hirschhorn, Founder & CEO @ DogVacay May 13, 2016 · 1 mention

20VC: From Netscape To Friendster To Nuzzel: Jonathan Abrams on A Silicon Valley Adventure Apr 15, 2016 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 25:42 Jonathan Abrams Whether they're finding it on search or the, or news sites, homepages, or Facebook, they're not finding the stuff they really need to know, and that's a big problem, because most big publishers, whether it's New York Times, or Wall Street…

20VC: Digg CEO, Gary Liu on The Rebirth Of Digg & The Evolution Of Content Feb 26, 2016 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 12:34 Gary Liu It had originally come out of the New York Times R&D team, uh, and then landed at Betaworks with an incredible, um, lead engineer who is now Dig's CTO, and really the founder of this version of Dig.

20 VC 079: BETAWORKS WEEK: East vs West Coast Investing with Peter Rojas, EIR @ Betaworks, Co-Founder @ Weblogs & Engadget Oct 14, 2015 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 1:07 Harry Stebbings He was also a contributor to Wired, The New York Times, Fortune, Money, and many, many more publications, and one of BetaWorks' investments on the West Coast is the amazing Product Hunt, so you must check out Product Hunt's new podcast…

20 VC 064: Finding Exceptional People with Big Ideas with Nick Beim, Partner @ Venrock Aug 19, 2015 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 7:05 Nick Beim So for example, they had identified the assassination of Bin Laden 28 minutes before Bloomberg in the New York Times.

20 VC 059: How To Approach VCs with Arteen Arabshahi, VC @ Karlin Ventures Aug 3, 2015 · 1 mention

  • ▶ 27:14 Arteen Arabshahi Um, this is a cop-out, because it's not a tech app, and it's not like a, you know, it's not like a, you know, where your traditional answer, but, um, New York Times released this article and an app alongside it a while ago, which was 36…
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