incumbents
also referred to as: incumbent · incumbent's
41 statements across 37 episodes · 19 bullish · 11 bearish · 33 people on the record · first statement Jul 11, 2016 by Albert Wenger · across every show →
Everything said about incumbents, oldest first
Jul 11, 2016 negative
Wenger: Dominant incumbents have stifled innovation in search and social media
“I think, you know, we've seen less innovation than we would probably like in the search space. I think we're seeing less innovation than we might like in the social space. And that's one of the effects of having A incumbent that has very, enjoys very strong ne…”
Nov 9, 2016 positive
Barriers to overcoming big tech data incumbencies are surprisingly low
“I do think that there are big data incumbencies, and I do think that they require, if you will, they're a challenge to overcome I do think that the barriers to overcome them are not so high. As previously mentioned, the incumbents oftentimes get in their own w…”
May 3, 2017
Jul 3, 2017 bullish
Tech Incumbents Are the Most Nimble in History, Says Feng
“They're not afraid to directly compete with companies, copy companies, do whatever it takes because they have grown up in this next wave of innovation, and they are the savviest Strongest, most nimble, fast-moving group of incumbents that I think the world has…”
Jul 31, 2017 neutral
Porteous: Consumer Startups Must Rely on Organic Growth Over Paid Acquisition
“I think the way we'll see new consumer experiences launched is actually going to be much more organic. You know, it's the trends, the sharing of new application experiences among communities that we as investors have to really watch for because we can't compet…”
Nov 13, 2017
Jul 13, 2018 negative
Jun 21, 2019 negative
Apr 8, 2021 bullish
Aug 19, 2021 bullish
Incumbents Will Execute a Massive Wave of Early-Stage Fintech Acquisitions
“I think in the world of fintech more broadly, though, we're about to see the most seismic shift in terms of incumbents acquiring startups in the realization that they have to now. And actually, you know, they have to do it quite early as well. Otherwise they c…”
Apr 21, 2023 negative
May 3, 2023 bearish
May 3, 2023 bullish
Hankes: Bet on Startups Creating Novel User Experiences Over Incumbents
“Yes, if you're going toe to toe right now with an incumbent on their home turf and their shipping, I think it's a hard bet to take the opposite side of, you know, in our business. But if you're creating something that's totally a different user experience that…”
May 12, 2023 negative
Delangue: Incumbents Struggle With AI Due to Long-Term Research Requirements
“Because it's a completely different way to build technology, right? It's a way where you have to have scientists, for example, working for six months on a new architecture, on a new model before releasing it. So it's a different paradigm of how you build softw…”
May 27, 2023 positive
Cohen: Incumbents hold major AI advantages in compute, talent, and distribution
“If you're an incumbent and you already have the infrastructure for AI, the talent for AI, you're already have a leg up in this race and you should be using that. Incumbents have existing market share. They have already an existing customer base and that custom…”
Jun 2, 2023 bearish
Jun 2, 2023 negative
Guo: Incumbent data moats are overblown in the AI race
“Much ado has been made about this idea of a data moat, but honestly, there's a lot of data out there, and entrepreneurs are incredibly creative about collecting it, and increasingly about generating it, and I don't think it's, ah, the incumbents are gonna win …”
Jun 19, 2023 bullish
Sep 15, 2023 bullish
Clément Delangue: Deep AI Startups Can Execute 100x Better Than Incumbents
“I think if you were thinking about AI as AI APIs, I agree. If you're thinking of AI as a more radical paradigm switch to build technology, right? And if you think about an AI startup as a company that is actually training models, creating new architectures, op…”
Sep 18, 2023 neutral
Sep 18, 2023 positive
Grimshaw: AI Startups Win by Building Business Models Orthogonal to Incumbents
“There's so much wrapped up in, in, in the arc fundamental business As in company architectures and all the systems internally and all their operatings around that, that it's really hard to just change, right? That's why it ends up being asymmetric competition.…”
Oct 6, 2023 positive
Rauch: Software startups defeat incumbents by offering radically simpler products
“The entry players can win because they do a lot less and because it's so disruptive, then the incumbent has to say, holy crap, we have to delete everything. I feel so invested. I crafted every icon. I crafted every menu. I crafted every piece of documentation …”
Oct 20, 2023 bullish
Incumbents Capture Short-Term AI Value, Startups Win Over 5-10 Years
“In the short term, incumbents will accrue the most value, leveraging existing distribution, To provide co-pilot products. Over the longer term, startups providing tools for new product paradigms will be best placed to win over the next five to 10 years.”
Oct 30, 2023 negative
Nov 15, 2023 positive
May 6, 2024 bullish
May 8, 2024 bearish
May 22, 2024 bullish
May 22, 2024 neutral
Levie: AI startups will win where incumbents face Innovator's Dilemma business model traps
“Similarly in AI, I think there'll be some categories where incumbents have the natural advantage, but then there will be either blind spots that those incumbents don't kind of go after, or there will be things so different from their existing business model in…”
Mar 10, 2025 bullish
Saper: Focused startups are outpacing incumbents in capturing AI value
“The thing I've changed my mind on is I'm less fearful that incumbents will be able to accrue most of the value. The reality is, like, it still early days in this game, and things could change, but thus far, the startups are outpacing, the focus startups are ou…”
Mar 26, 2025 neutral
Jun 2, 2025
Mohan: Obvious startup ideas yield no alpha against incumbents
“Like if you pick an idea that is like obvious to everyone, there's probably no alpha, right? A big company is going to go out and already beat you to the market, right? Because they have more distribution resources and capital than you.”
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Ross: Hardware incumbents win because AI models are optimized for existing GPUs
“So if you are the incumbent, you have an advantage because people are designing their models for your hardware. It doesn't even matter if there's a better architecture out there. It's not going to run well, so it's not a better architecture.”
Nov 14, 2025 bullish
Rivera: AI favors incumbents over startups due to distribution and data
“Because I believe that distribution matters a great deal. We're all building on largely the same models. The areas where you actually can have like true network effects is access to unavailable data or consumer network effects. Both of these typically sit insi…”
Dec 1, 2025 bearish
Dec 4, 2025 bullish
Jan 12, 2026
Feb 5, 2026
Feb 9, 2026
Acharya: Incumbents improve legacy categories while startups own new AI categories
“When you have this product cycle and you have a capable incumbent, what happens is they usually make their product better for their existing categories. So Microsoft will make a better word processor than they've ever made. Google will make a better search eng…”
Mar 2, 2026 positive
Jun 18, 2026
Randle: Dominant software incumbents have only market share to lose to AI
“If you're already the market leader and you only have share to lose if you're already the incumbent, that's a really tough place to be because there's not really share to gain, there's only share to lose, and AI is a great way to for startups to take share fro…”