Gemini

also referred to as: gemini models

includes Gemini 3, Gemini 2.5, Gemini Flash, Gemini CLI, Gemini Ultra, Gemini Pro

33 statements across 29 episodes · 16 bullish · 8 bearish · 28 people on the record · first statement Nov 24, 2023 by Jeff Seibert · said 184 times in 80 episodes since 2023 · across every show →

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brought up most by Harry Stebbings (50), Rory O'Driscoll (12), Maor Shlomo (9), Jason Lemkin (9), Max Junestrand (6), Zach Lloyd (4), Tomasz Tunguz (4), Patrick Forquer (4)

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Nov 24, 2023 bearish
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Seibert: Google delayed Gemini to Q1 due to poor performance
“They've just punted Gemini into Q one, which tells me it's not doing very well.”
Jeff Seibert Nov 24, 2023 ▶ 27:33 The Ultimate AI Roundtable: What Happens Now in AI, Why Google are Vulnerable | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 29, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Mensch: DeepMind's initial Gemini development was too slow before recovering
“Gemini was a bit too slow, and I think they recovered sufficiently well since.”
Arthur Mensch Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 3:50 Arthur Mensch: Open vs Closed - Who Wins and Mistral's Position | E1146 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Levie: AI context windows grew 500x in 18 months
“The token context window was more or less, I think, 4000 tokens. So you kind of give it like a blog post to analyze just in the past, you know, week at Google IO Sundar announced a two million token window model or version of Gemini. So think about that. That'…”
Aaron Levie May 22, 2024 ▶ 8:00 Aaron Levie: How the Business Model of SaaS Changes Forever & Startups vs Incumbents:Who Wins?|E1155 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 22, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: Users Will Wire Into Specific AI Models Rather Than Abstracted Selection
“I don't think you're going to have complete commoditization of sort of the personality of the models for the sort of style and the response to the point where then, you know, if you're a user, you know, any given response could come from Gemini, Versus GPT-IV …”
Aaron Levie May 22, 2024 ▶ 5:29 Aaron Levie: How the Business Model of SaaS Changes Forever & Startups vs Incumbents:Who Wins?|E1155 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 5, 2024 neutral
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Srinivas: GPT-4 tier models are not yet commoditized
“I think GPT four quality models are not yet commoditized. There's only probably one or two alternatives for the people today, like Claude Opus or some people, Gemini, let's say. If it's just like two or three alternatives, it's not, I wouldn't call it a commod…”
Aravind Srinivas Jun 5, 2024 ▶ 21:19 Aravind Srinivas:Will Foundation Models Commoditise & Diminishing Returns in Model Performance|E1161 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 24, 2024 positive
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Luan: Google's TPU team had under 500 people on a shoestring budget
“I think the TPU team when I was at Google was, like, sub-five hundred people and their budget was a shoestring budget, and yet somehow every generation they taped out quite good chips that were then used to train Gemini and Palm and are used by third parties n…”
David Luan Jun 24, 2024 ▶ 27:36 David Luan: Why Nvidia Will Enter the Model Space & Models Will Enter the Chip Space | E1169 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 4, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Kolter: Open-sourcing models at GPT-4 capability poses low catastrophic risk
“If you look at the current best models that there are right now, so things like GPT-IV, Claude, 3.5 Gemini, things like this, I would not currently be all that nervous about having an open source model that was as capable as these in terms of the catastrophic …”
Zico Kolter Sep 4, 2024 ▶ 46:53 Zico Kolter: OpenAI's Newest Board Member on The Biggest Questions and Concerns in AI Safety | E1197 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 15, 2025
Disclosure
Riparbelli: Synthesia is shifting some workloads from OpenAI to Anthropic and Gemini
“We're most using OpenAI... We've shifted some workloads to Anthropic. We're also using Gemini actually.”
Victor Riparbelli Jan 15, 2025 ▶ 33:13 Victor Riparbelli, CEO @Synthesia: OpenAI vs Anthropic vs X.ai - Who Wins and Why | E1246 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 10, 2025 positive
Opinion
Ramaswamy: OpenAI and Anthropic Lead AI; Google Gemini Is Fast Follow
“It's OpenAI and Anthropic that have created the best models on the planet for the last three years. It's not Microsoft. It's not Amazon. It's not Google. It looks like, you know, Gemini is good, but let's face it, it's at best a fast follow.”
Sridhar Ramaswamy Feb 10, 2025 ▶ 25:29 Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO @Snowflake: Deepseek is Not a Threat to OpenAI & OpenAI Beats Anthropic|E1258 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 3, 2025 positive
Opinion
Krieger: Google Gemini benefits significantly from training on YouTube video data
“It's actually clear to me that Gemini benefits from that. Like whenever they have like a good, like video understanding demo, for example, I'm like, well, I, Somebody has like probably the largest repository of video in the world and can likely train on a lot …”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 30:27 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 5, 2025
Disclosure
Osika: Anthropic's Claude is Lovable's main workhorse for code generation
“We use all of OpenAI's models, Google, Gemini, and the main workhorse is Anthropic's cloud model for writing the code.”
Anton Osika Mar 5, 2025 ▶ 36:23 Anton Osika, Co-Founder and CEO @ Lovable: Hitting 85% Day 30 Retention - Better than ChatGPT · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 5, 2025
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Alex Schultz: AI chatbot adoption fundamentally changes user search behavior
“When people are using those, their behavior in search changes dramatically.”
Alex Schultz Sep 5, 2025 ▶ 28:18 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader
Sep 8, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
ElevenLabs speech-to-text beats OpenAI and Gemini on benchmarks
“Then speech to text is beating open AI, Gemini on benchmarks.”
Mati Staniszewski Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 14:06 ElevenLabs CEO/Co-Founder, Mati Staniszewski:The Untold Story of Europe’s Fastest Growing AI Startup · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 negative
Opinion
Ross: Gemini's integration into Gmail and Google products is practically unusable
“It's like, it's in Gmail, but it's practically unusable. It's in pretty much every product, and it seems thrown in, kind of, like, half thought through”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:06:08 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 17, 2025 positive
Opinion
Andrew Ng: ChatGPT leads horizontal AI, but Gemini has a distribution advantage
“ChatGPT seems to be the dominant player in the new, new gen horizontal information discovery. Although I think Gemini with this channel advantage through control of Android and Chrome, you know, is a serious player as well.”
Andrew Ng Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 5:07 AI Fund’s GP, Andrew Ng: LLMs as the Next Geopolitical Weapon & Do Margins Still Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 24, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Shlomo: Google is most likely to win the LLM race
“Google. By far. They have the compute. They're moving very fast. If Gemini at some point wins the race, like literally wins the race then they have the entire stack. Including like Google Cloud and whatever, whatever they need and they have the data and whatev…”
Maor Shlomo Nov 24, 2025 ▶ 24:50 Base44’s Founder, Maor Shlomo on How Vibe Coding Will Kill SaaS · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 12, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Google Gemini's cybersecurity capabilities surpass all previous AI models
“Another example, Gemini, the new Gemini, right? His capabilities around specific years on security are much better than any model we've seen before.”
Raz Herzberg Dec 12, 2025 ▶ 1:02:50 20Growth: How Wiz Built a $30BN Brand in Enterprise | What Worked vs What Was a Mega Failure: Lessons Learned | Why Marketers Make the Worst CMOs & What To Look for in Growth with Raaz Herzberg
Jan 15, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: ChatGPT usage dropped 22% after Google released new Gemini models
“Since the new Gemini models came out, you've had a 22% drop in ChatGPT usage.”
Harry Stebbings Jan 15, 2026 ▶ 24:28 Anthropic’s $10B Raise | a16z’s $15B Fund: Is the Middle Dead in VC? | How OpenAI Could Go to Zero? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 22, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: LLMs will become the primary way consumers buy products
“I think we are way under discussing the power of discovery in LLMs. I think this is the way we will buy everything in the future as we are embedded in LLMs. Well, I don't know why I would use anything else other than the best of ChatGBT or Claude or Gemini to …”
Jason Lemkin Jan 22, 2026 ▶ 49:51 Elon Musk vs Sam Altman | The Implosion of Thinking Machines | Can VC Survive Public Pricing? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 26, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Junestrand: Legora will immediately switch AI models if superior options emerge
“And so if a, if Gemini is better, we will switch immediately. Or if OpenAI is better, we will switch immediately. Or if a new model comes out that's better, we will switch immediately. You know, proving that the evals is better.”
Max Junestrand Jan 26, 2026 ▶ 14:31 Legora CEO, Max Junestrand: $7M ARR in a Day | Harvey vs Legora: Is a Legal AI Winner Takes All? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 12, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Cannon-Brookes: Anthropic is one of Atlassian's largest AI models
“We use Anthropic a lot. It's one of our biggest models. We use, you know, multiple models which I think is what most good SaaS vendors are doing within their customers' choices, right? Like we use a lot of Gemini, a lot of Anthropic. We have a whole bunch of L…”
Mike Cannon-Brookes Feb 12, 2026 ▶ 2:42 Anthropic's Super Bowl Ad: Who Won & Lost? | Sierra Hits $150M ARR: Is Customer Support Too Crowded? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 28, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Jerry Murdock: Google and Gemini are better long-term assets than OpenAI
“They can, and they are long-term better assets. They've got, if I have an autonomous agent business and I've got Gmail, you're going to have a phenomenal asset that open AI doesn't have.”
Jerry Murdock Feb 28, 2026 ▶ 55:36 The SaaS Apocalypse: Who Lives & Who Dies | Insight Partners Co-Founder, Jerry Murdock · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 2, 2026 neutral
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Zinman: Enterprise SaaS faces five distinct AI doomsday scenarios
“Yeah, so first of all, I think there's like five Doomeday scenarios I'm familiar with, so that's one of them. But, you know, I'll just take you back a little bit in time, but first of all, it was everything about people will Vibe code their own apps. That was …”
Eran Zinman Mar 2, 2026 ▶ 3:38 Monday.com CEO on Is SaaS Dead: Will Everything Be Vibe Coded | Eran Zinman · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 2, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Zinman: ChatGPT and Claude won't win enterprise AI orchestration
“I don't think that ChatGPT or Gemini on Tropic are going to do it, because going back to my the second theory that we discussed, you know, of course, you know, people are buying a Tropic Claude, they're buying ChatGPT, but it's not a tool where you work with a…”
Eran Zinman Mar 2, 2026 ▶ 32:20 Monday.com CEO on Is SaaS Dead: Will Everything Be Vibe Coded | Eran Zinman · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 14, 2026 negative
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Midha: Claude and Gemini Failed Badly at Physical Science Benchmarks
“About a year ago, as an example, I realized there was a lot of talk about models being good at physical physics and chemistry, AI for science. And I was a visiting scientist at the applied Physics department at Stanford. And we started benchmarking these model…”
Anjney Midha Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 5:36 The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Rejected It | The Four Bottlenecks in AI | Anj Midha · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 14, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Midha: Compute shortages will prevent top AI labs from hitting revenue targets
“I think if there's any reason why OpenAI, Anthropic, Gemini, and so on don't hit their revenue targets over the next few years, it's because they won't have access to enough compute.”
Anjney Midha Apr 14, 2026 ▶ 48:23 The Early Days of Anthropic & How 21 of 22 VCs Rejected It | The Four Bottlenecks in AI | Anj Midha · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 25, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Masad: Google's Gemini is one of the best AI models for design
“Gemini is one of the best models at design.”
Amjad Masad Apr 25, 2026 ▶ 14:09 Replit CEO: Why the SaaS Apocalypse is Justified & Why Coding Models are Plateauing | Amjad Masad · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 25, 2026 positive
Opinion
Masad: Google's Gemini AI models offer the best price performance
“Google's Gemini's models have are the best at price performance, for example.”
Amjad Masad Apr 25, 2026 ▶ 6:14 Replit CEO: Why the SaaS Apocalypse is Justified & Why Coding Models are Plateauing | Amjad Masad · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 7, 2026 negative
Opinion
O'Driscoll: OpenAI and Anthropic capture almost all commercial LLM revenue
“And when you look at what's actually going on, the big two guys are getting all the money. Gemini, for some reason, doesn't appear to be able to do a great job of developing code or love and just getting that kind of traction because coding is where it's all h…”
Rory O'Driscoll May 7, 2026 ▶ 20:13 Anthropic's Raise & What It Means for Potential IPO? Mag7: Google & Amazon Up, Meta & Microsoft Down · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 14, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: WSJ data shows Claude enterprise share jumped to 48%
“The wall street journal today published the market shares in the enterprise for open AI, Claude, Gemini and Grok. Grok is a rounding error going to the prior conversation, right? It's not making any progress. But everything is so multimodal that it said Gemini…”
Jason Lemkin May 14, 2026 ▶ 15:14 Anthropic Buys Compute From Elon & Commits $200BN to Google | Cerebras IPO | Ramp Raises at $40BN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 22, 2026 bearish
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Arora: Over half of AI compute goes to loss-making consumer use
“I think more than half of the compute is going to feed the consumer, which is a fundamentally loss-making entity right now. Like, I don't think any of the frontier models make any money in trying to get you and me to use ChatGPD or, you know, Claude or Gemini …”
Nikesh Arora Jun 22, 2026 ▶ 20:11 Nikesh Arora on the Frontier Model Problem: Breadth vs Depth | The Future of Token Costs · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 11, 2026 bullish
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Jain: Glean combines ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini into one product
“Today the way to think about Glean is that first, it's a super set of JetGPD, Cloud, Gemini, All of those combined into one product experience.”
Arvind Jain Jul 11, 2026 ▶ 2:55 ⁠Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2026
Disclosure
Atallah: OpenRouter Data Undercounts Frontier Models Due to Multi-Model Bias
“I think we have a, we definitely have a bias to People who believe our thesis, which is that the future is multi-model and companies who want multiple models. And there are still companies out there. I basically rarely, very rarely run into them now, but there…”
Alex Atallah Aug 9, 2026 ▶ 24:04 OpenRouter CEO: Why Chinese Open Models Are Beating the US | Why Enterprises Fear OpenAI & Anthropic
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