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Wickberg: UpSales can triple revenue from existing customer base alone
“So when I talk to investors, I usually say that we think that we can triple our revenue without bringing in a single new customer because the potential in the existing customer base is still massive.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 8:44 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Insight
Wickberg: High-churn graduate sales hiring burns out top performers long-term
“It, it's not a long-term initiative because the people who are able to hit the numbers, they grow tired of this kind of banging the head against the wall strategy.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 11:46 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Insight
Wickberg: Enterprise sales reps can carry 3x larger quotas upmarket
“We realized that the right type of salesperson can carry like a three times bigger quota.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 10:48 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Disclosure
Wickberg: UpSales pays $120k to $150k OTE for $1M quota reps
“Their OTE would be around Between a 120 or a 150,000 dollars.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 12:18 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Opinion
Wickberg: Adding 5 to 10 good salespeople could boost growth to 50%
“Just finding five or 10 more good salespeople can bring us from 30% to 50% in growth rate.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 13:14 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Disclosure
Wickberg limits public investor meetings to two days per quarter
“So I spent two days every quarter in investor meetings always in, in relation to when we released the quarterly reports.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 14:26 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Opinion
Wickberg: Public listing aids recruiting through financial transparency
“Especially when recruiting people, it has been an advantage that, you know, people can read our numbers and read the CEO comments and yeah, you get some increased exposure basically.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 14:45 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Insight
Custom Consulting Funded UpSales' Early Survival But Slowed Down Scalability
“And I think you know, the early days, we never raised any capital. So you know, our first 10 years were like, Barely breaking even, you know, struggling to pay the bills every month. So we used to do a lot of customized consulting stuff for our clients. And I …”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 5:38 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Disclosure
Going Public Was the Easiest Way to Preserve Majority Shareholder Control
“Going public and, you know, I'm still the majority shareholder turned out to be like the easiest way to continue running the business the way I want to do it.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 10:57 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Insight
Why UpSales Deliberately Reduces Initial Deal Sizes for New Customers
“We almost try to kind of decrease the deal size when the customer joins us, because it makes everything easier and it decreases the risk for the customer as well. So, so yeah, we just try to add as many customers as we can and then grow them over time.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 14:06 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Supported
Why Fast-Growing Tech Company UpSales Pays a Dividend to Its Shareholders
“We're one of those weird, fast growing tech companies who also pays a dividend.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 15:12 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Supported
UpSales Trades at 7.5x to 8x EV/ARR With Zero Debt
“It used to be 200 in, in January before everything blew up, but I mean, I think we're net cash. We don't have any debt. So I think enterprise value ARR multiple is around 7.5 or eight, which is lower than a lot of our peers, I would say.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 15:31 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Supported
Wickberg: UpSales current MRR is around $1.2 million
“Yeah, it's around 1.2 million dollars is the current MRR.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 7:30 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wickberg: Two-thirds of UpSales growth comes from existing accounts
“So, so I think maybe two thirds come from existing accounts and one third from new accounts.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 8:03 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Assertion Supported
UpSales sustains approximately $250,000 in monthly net profit
“Yeah, I mean, I would say pretty much the same. We had a really good quarter in, in Q four.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 9:30 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Assertion Supported
UpSales generates around $200,000 in annual revenue per employee
“I mean, I think now we are at around maybe 200,000 dollars per employee per year in revenue, something like that.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 9:57 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Disclosure
Wickberg: UpSales sets $500k to $1M quotas for experienced sales reps
“Now we are more and more looking for, you know, people with five, at least five years of experience selling software and giving them a quota between 500,000 dollars up to a million dollars per year.”
Daniel Wickberg Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 11:59 He's $14m in ARR, Here's why he IPO'd and plans to grow 30% this year
Opinion
UpSales Built SaaS-Specific KPI Tracking Because Other CRMs Made It Hard
“We do revenue recognition. We do all kinds of ARR and MRR analytics, and we spend quite a lot of time to, you know, enable our customers to manage SAS specific KPIs and targets, which is kind of a hassle in most other CRMs.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 1:51 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
UpSales Jumped From 600 to 1,800 Customers Overnight After Partner Migration
“And a lot of these very tiny customers migrated to up sales a while back to some, we went from like 600 customers to 1800 customers almost overnight.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 2:39 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Supported
UpSales Is Growing ARR by 30% to 35% on $9.8M Base
“So one year ago we were at 9.8. So we're growing the error at around, you know, between 30 and 35%.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 4:21 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Supported
UpSales Raised $3M in Its IPO But Never Needed to Spend It
“Yeah, so we did a secondary, a pre-IPO, which was around four to five million dollars. And then in the IPO, we raised around three million dollars but we never actually used that money because we had a debt.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 6:20 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Disclosure
Wickberg Sold 10% of UpSales in a Pre-IPO Secondary Transaction
“So I sold 10% in, in the pre-IPO. And I had a partner our former CEO who was CEO for almost five years. He had seven or eight percent. So, so the total was like, 18% that was sold in the pre-IPO.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 7:14 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
UpSales Currently Maintains Net Dollar Retention Around 115% to 120%
“I think we are today at around one 15, one 20, somewhere around that.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 12:08 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Customer Expansion Drives Up to 70% of UpSales' Net New ARR
“I mean, it used to be like fifty-fifty of the new ARR, net new ARR came from new customers and expansion. Now because of all the kind of the smaller customers we inherited a while back, now it's around 60, 70% comes from expansions.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 12:17 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Assertion Supported
UpSales Sustains 35% Annual Revenue Growth With 25%–30% FCF Margins
“I mean, we're very proud of, you know, growing revenues 35% per year with, like 25, 30% free cash flow margin.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 14:46 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
Disclosure
UpSales Pivoted to Target Recurring Revenue Businesses After Starting as CRM
“We started out as a typical CRM almost 20 years ago. And then we did a pivot a few years ago to start focusing more on, on recurring revenue businesses like ourselves.”
Daniel Wickberg Jul 28, 2022 ▶ 1:11 He just hit $12m in ARR. Took 7 years to hit $1m. Don't get discouraged!
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