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Hyper-growth startups rarely build beyond their first 18 months of product scope
“My hypothesis is that, You know, if you need to create a large hyper-growth company, whatever you've built in the first, like, 18 months or something is sort of the extent to which you're going to build in the life cycle of your company.”
Zenefits continually failed when trying to expand into new markets
“We've seen that at Zenefits where we unsuccessfully tried to enter into new markets and, you know failed continually.”
Swanick: GrowSumo Used Fake Logos Like Dropbox to Gain Early Traction
“So they saw that there was nothing on our page, so we threw up fake logos, like, Zenefits was huge at the time, Dropbox, you know, those kinds of companies.”
Fulcher: Over 70% of Zenefits customers converted to paid SaaS
“The thing that was clearly a huge point of validation for me that I was excited about is more than 70% of our customers moved with us.”
Fulcher: Zenefits' SaaS business is growing 100% year over year
“The SaaS part of our business, separate from the insurance business, is right now growing a hundred percent year over year, and we expected to do the same this year.”
Fulcher: Zenefits' three-year plan reaches profitability without raising outside capital
“I've got a three-year plan that doesn't require us to raise any additional capital, and that frankly gets us not only to break even, but to gets us to profitability well before that three-year period, and so we're excited about being more or less in control of…”
Rippling uses an inside sales playbook very similar to Zenefits
“It's very similar playbook. Yeah, it's not very different.”
Fulcher: Zenefits' next imminent milestone is $100M ARR
“The next imminent Milestone that we're focused on is a hundred million bucks.”
Fulcher: Zenefits' discarded insurance brokerage was approaching $100M in revenue
“That's a, you know, a business that was coming up on a hundred million dollars in revenue.”
Fulcher: Zenefits operates at roughly 65% gross margin
“We're sort of at the 65% gross margin place right now today.”
Fulcher: Zenefits is not for sale and is not in acquisition talks
“No, we're not, and I, you know, our company's not for sale.”
Fulcher: Zenefits achieves net negative churn despite 15-20% gross revenue churn
“To the degree that we do churn some of our revenue, and it's for us in the 15 to 20% range and by the way, for SMB, when you're talking with especially super small companies, that's, we think that that's actually pretty much best in class, but one of the thing…”
Fulcher: Zenefits is 12 to 24 months from 80%-plus gross margin
“So I do believe that we have some targets that get us into the 80% plus gross margin range. My view is I believe that we're sort of somewhere between 12 to 18 to potentially 24 months away from that.”
Zenefits grew from zero to $50 million ARR in under two years
“Zenefits grew from zero to fifty million dollars in like
Less than two years in ARR”
Fulcher: Zenefits has about 500 employees and 150 contractors
“We have about 500 employees, and we probably have another 150 or so contractors around the world that are working with us.”
Fulcher: Zenefits annual contract values generally range between $5,000 and $15,000
“On average, we probably mostly have the bulk of our contract values are somewhere between five and 15,000 dollars per year.”
Fulcher: Zenefits has roughly 10,000 active customers
“We have basically around 10,000 customers. These are customers that are in some cohort Consuming some or all of our product line.”
Fulcher: Zenefits leverages voice recognition technology for HR capabilities
“We're actually using voice recognition products for actually utilizing and leveraging HR capability.”
Fulcher: Zenefits navigated its pivot with thousands of customers and ample cash
“It's not often when you have thousands of customers and plenty of cash with which to be able to kind of affect this pivot and to go in this new direction.”
Fulcher: Zenefits retains more than 90% of annual contract logos
“Today we're retaining more than 90% of our customers who have not annual contract with us.”