Prasanna Sankar

Founder and CEO, Vorflux · 1 appearance on the record.

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Prasanna Sankar is the co-founder and former Chief Technology Officer of workforce management software company Rippling, which he launched with Parker Conrad after working at Zenefits. He later founded decentralized social platform 0xPPL and autonomous AI engineering startup Vorflux.

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The record, in short

What the tape says about how Prasanna argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Zenefits grew from zero to $50 million ARR in under two years
“Zenefits grew from zero to fifty million dollars in like Less than two years in ARR”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 8:18 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"

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Everything Prasanna Sankar said on Top Founders that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Hyper-growth startups rarely build beyond their first 18 months of product scope
“My hypothesis is that, You know, if you need to create a large hyper-growth company, whatever you've built in the first, like, 18 months or something is sort of the extent to which you're going to build in the life cycle of your company.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 11:17 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Rippling's ambition is to reach a $100 billion valuation or bust
“It's a hundred billion or bust.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 6:40 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Opinion
Rippling's SaaS app store model is a winner-take-all network effect business
“The ultimate play is like an app store where any SaaS developer can sort of plug in plug in and publishes app and you know, rippling provision seats and licenses on top of this on, you know, and provides distribution for these apps, right? So it's, it is clear…”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 8:48 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Rippling spent $10 million to build its minimum viable product
“Ten million dollars.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 2:59 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zenefits continually failed when trying to expand into new markets
“We've seen that at Zenefits where we unsuccessfully tried to enter into new markets and, you know failed continually.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 11:51 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rippling was close to reaching $36 million in ARR in May 2020
“Thirty six million dollars in ARR is not really far away.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 16:47 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling had roughly 300% net revenue retention during its Kleiner Perkins round
“When we raised our last financing round from Kleiner, it was around 300%, which was something, you know, abnormal.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 19:55 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling was forced to build health insurance due to intense competition
“Especially we thought we could sort of like get away without building the health insurance part. But you know, the competition was so intense that we had to sort of build it. You know, every other player in the market was offering it, so we had to build it, so…”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 5:16 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Parker Conrad laid out Rippling's four-to-six-year product roadmap on day one
“Parker sort of sat on day one and gave a four-year, six-year roadmap. And, you know, we've largely been executing that.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 5:34 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling uses an inside sales playbook very similar to Zenefits
“It's very similar playbook. Yeah, it's not very different.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 18:58 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Rippling designs every funding round with a path to profitability
“Every round that we raise, we sort of, like, have the goal that, you know, that round gets us to profitability.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 22:05 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Rippling's ideal customer is fast-growing companies with five to 100 employees
“Our sweet spot customer is five to a hundred employees in their company, especially the ones that are growing fast which have a lot of changes that are constantly happening in the company that needs to be synced in all these business systems they're using.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 4:09 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Rippling's average revenue per customer is $15,000 to $20,000 per year
“We are around, I think, 20, 15 to 20 K. Per year? Per year, yeah.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 4:35 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Parker Conrad invested $500,000 of his personal capital into Rippling
“Day one, Parker put in, you know, half a million of his own money.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 5:51 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Partly supported
Rippling raised $10 million within its first nine months
“Beyond that, maybe in nine months, we sort of raised around ten million dollars.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 5:56 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Parker Conrad and Prasanna Sankar split Rippling's founding equity 60/40
“Parker owns more equity than I do. We split it sixty-forty.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 7:36 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Contradicted
Zenefits grew from zero to $50 million ARR in under two years
“Zenefits grew from zero to fifty million dollars in like Less than two years in ARR”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 8:18 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling's total customer acquisition cost payback period is roughly nine months
“It's our sales rep comp that we sort of recoup on the first month. So our total payback might be like, you know, nine months or something like that.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 10:07 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling had over 2,000 paying business customers by May 2020
“We have around you know, 2000 or more than that customers.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 12:11 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling signed its first 100 customers primarily through cold email
“Email. Mostly email.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 17:55 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Rippling's expansion revenue comes primarily from organic seat growth
“Most of it has been seed upsells, which is automatic, right? Like we don't even put, you know, we have not done historically a great job on upsells so far. You know, right now we're sort of investing more on that, but most of it is just like organic seed ads.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 20:46 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Disclosure
Prasanna Sankar emailed Parker Conrad to partner immediately after Zenefits firing
“So I left right after Parker left. So, you know, when Parker was fired from Zenefits, I wrote him an email saying, Hey dude, like, you know, I'm, I know you're going to start a company and I want to join you.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 1:07 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rippling targeted founders and the C-suite before expanding to HR titles
“We were targeting at that point in the beginning, it was like founders you know, CEO, CTO. It is mostly that. And then as we sort of continue to grow and scale and expand you know, we went into the HR job title, the idea admins and so on.”
Prasanna Sankar May 13, 2020 ▶ 18:06 1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off"

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
1754 Parker Conrad Gave Rippling CTO 40%, Kept 60%, 2,000 Customers "$36m ARR Not Far Off" May 13, 2020 10m
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