Borden says developers cannot vibe code deep vertical domain software
Ben Borden · He Turned Pickleball Software into a $3M/yr SaaS · Feb 18, 2026 · at 19:33
Podplay co-founder Ben Borden discusses the limitations of AI-assisted 'vibe coding' when building complex vertical SaaS solutions.
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“You can put together a prototype, like and you can vibe code your way to kind of a, you know, a simple scheduling app but you can't vibe code your way to something that has kind of deep value to a domain.”
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