search engine optimization

also referred to as: seo

17 statements across 15 episodes · 5 bullish · 7 bearish · 7 people on the record · first statement Nov 10, 2020 by Craig Hewitt · across every show →

Everything said about search engine optimization, oldest first

Nov 10, 2020 positive
Insight
Hewitt: Consolidating into one domain beats maintaining separate brands for SEO
“I think for a lot of reasons, managing just one brand generally is a lot easier. From an SEO perspective, it definitely is better to have all of your kind of link juice pointing to one place. I think there will be people that say, yeah, but if you were two bra…”
Craig Hewitt Nov 10, 2020 ▶ 24:44 Episode 522 | Hewitt - Where Are They Now?
Nov 24, 2020
Disclosure
Geocodio relies entirely on SEO and refuses to do outbound sales
“Our sole marketing and sales channel is SEO. We don't do any outbound sales.”
Michelle Hansen Nov 24, 2020 ▶ 20:59 Episode 524 | Bootstrapping a Commodity SaaS
Jan 12, 2021
Disclosure
Walling ran up to 12 automated website businesses generating monthly revenue
“At any given time, it was between eight and 12 different businesses running, but a lot of them were these small websites that were effectively on autopilot until something happened to them. So a lot of them were based either on Google ads, display ads, or SEO,…”
Rob Walling Jan 12, 2021 ▶ 16:38 Episode 531 | How a Non-Technical Founder Grew Past $20k MRR
Apr 11, 2023 positive
What-if
Walling: Investing Content Hours into SEO Would Have 10x'd Net Worth
“When I look at the thousands and thousands of hours that I've spent podcasting and blogging and tweeting and whatever, if I had invested all that into SEO in a hugely competitive space, I would be worth 10 times what I am now.”
Rob Walling Apr 11, 2023 ▶ 24:16 Episode 656 | Taste vs. Shipping + Being First vs. Being the Best...
Sep 19, 2023 negative
Opinion
Walling: AI content lacking human domain expertise cannot compete for SEO rankings
“I think the AI generated stuff, it just isn't there yet, and so if you don't have That last 20% to get it, you know, again, it's eighty-twenty, right, where AI can maybe get you 80% of the way there, but if you don't have the last 20% yourself, I think it's a …”
Rob Walling Sep 19, 2023 ▶ 15:59 Episode 679 | Mock Features, A Failed Launch, Becoming a Freelanc...
Oct 31, 2023 negative
Insight
Walling: Low B2C pricing prevents software founders from using paid marketing channels
“When you go B to C, you get the worst of all the worlds, and you don't get enough money to be able to do any marketing other than free marketing. It has to be viral, it has to be content slash SEO, or it has to rank in an app store, which I include as SEO. B t…”
Rob Walling Oct 31, 2023 ▶ 7:20 Episode 685 | 7 Things You Should Never Do (A Rob Solo Adventure)
Feb 13, 2024
Insight
Founders should invest one to two years building SEO before product launch
“In most cases, you're going to put a year or two in just to get enough SEO rankings that when you launch your electronic signature or .NET invoice app, it wouldn't have taken two years to do that. But when you launch that app, you have looked ahead and you've …”
Rob Walling Feb 13, 2024 ▶ 9:10 Episode 700 | Playing the Long Game
Aug 6, 2024 negative
Insight
Gomez: Generic outsourced SEO content lacks defensibility against AI search
“If you can just hire writers, like an agency, like a generic writer, an SEO writer, a writer to create and just list out a bunch of topics and then have them without knowing anything about your space or without knowing anything about your business, just kind o…”
Ruben Gamez Aug 6, 2024 ▶ 36:59 Episode 725 | SEO in the Age of AI, Freemium, When Brand Becomes...
Aug 27, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
SEO drives over 60% of Gymdesk's qualified leads
“We still drive most of our leads through SEO. I think it's over 60, 70% of our leads come through that channel, And they're all extremely qualified leads.”
Iran Galperin Aug 27, 2024 ▶ 19:42 Episode 728 | Bootstrapping Gymdesk to a More Than $32.5M Exit
Oct 8, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Walling: Early bootstrappers learned SEO and split testing from info marketers
“There were no books about startups doing this. It was all the info marketer, internet marketing stuff. And so I went and learned copywriting from them and applied it to startups... So they were doing split testing. They were doing AdWords. They were doing SEO.…”
Rob Walling Oct 8, 2024 ▶ 13:23 Episode 734 | The 20 Year Bootstrapper (With Ian Landsman)
Jan 7, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Portman: Userlist trades backlinks for SaaS email examples to drive SEO
“We have a community advocate, Katharina, who goes around collecting examples in the communities, also distributing pieces there, so it's like, it's a content flywheel of sorts, because we're collecting examples in exchange for backlinks from people, then using…”
Jane Portman Jan 7, 2025 ▶ 28:14 Episode 747 | Evolving SaaS Customer Success Over 7 Years (with J...
Jan 28, 2025 negative
Opinion
Google aggressively penalizes domains that use obvious legacy SEO tactics
“A lot of it will actually hurt your rankings now, because Google basically went to the opposite end of the spectrum and said, look, if this thing even smells like an SEO touched it, we're going to just nuke it to oblivion. And they certainly, 100% do that at a…”
Lars Lofgren Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 16:52 Episode 752 | The State of SEO in 2025
Jan 28, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Rob Walling says 60% of his SaaS investments succeed with SEO
“I'm invested in over 200 B to B SaaS companies, and a huge percentage of them, and it's 6070, 80%, somewhere in there, are doing SEO, and are getting some content marketing and SEO, and are getting results from it.”
Rob Walling Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 17:22 Episode 752 | The State of SEO in 2025
Jan 28, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lars Lofgren claims Google uses multi-channel brand presence for search rankings
“When Google is looking at things to rank and deciding who ranks for what, they do place a lot more emphasis in, okay, is this site, is this brand, is this entity, are they on social? Are they doing stuff in other channels? Is the traffic coming to this website…”
Lars Lofgren Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 13:44 Episode 752 | The State of SEO in 2025
Apr 1, 2025 negative
Insight
Walling: Multi-million ARR SaaS businesses face danger relying on single channels
“The only time I think you get in trouble with this is when you're, you have a multi-million dollar company, two, three, four million dollars of ARR, and you're still relying on a single channel, that's when it makes me nervous. Because even if it's SEO, which …”
Rob Walling Apr 1, 2025 ▶ 16:15 Episode 768 | Reacting to Controversial Startup Advice
Dec 30, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Over-Reliance on SEO Will Punish SaaS Founders in 2026
“My second prediction is that over-reliance on SEO will be problematic for mostly bootstrapped SaaS founders, actually for any SaaS founder.”
Rob Walling Dec 30, 2025 ▶ 15:07 Episode 813 | SaaS Predictions for 2026 (+ Reflections on 2025)
Jul 7, 2026 negative
Insight
Walling: Low-LTV consumer software can only be marketed through free channels
“The only way that you can market a consumer-facing business that I know of, the only ways, I should say, are virality, word of mouth, SEO, it's all the, it's the free stuff, because you can't afford to spend or invest any money on marketing, and that's why, on…”
Rob Walling Jul 7, 2026 ▶ 12:33 Episode 840 | 5 PM Revisited, Starting Over After Failure, Never...
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