Andrew McLeod, founder of Certn, describes the initial user research sessions that led to the company's pivot from rent default insurance to automated background checks.
“The general consensus was like, this candidate experience is fantastic. This report looks great, but I'm not paying that much per month. Like, you've already told me this person's good. You know, I can see that they're good. And I'm not just going to take your word for it and pay, you know, four percent or whatever, you know, whatever the number was, you know, like I can see this report right here. Like I want this report, like how much to just get this report. And that was unanimously the feedback.”
quote is from the automated transcript, cleaned for reading:
filler sounds and stutters are removed, nothing is rephrased. names can be misheard
(the analysis reads context, assessments check outside sources). how →
More from Andrew McLeod
Insight
McLeod: Testing a prototype with five customers yields 80% of insights
“And usually with the customers, I say no more than five. So like five will give you kind of the 80, 20%.”
Andrew McLeodJun 1, 2023▶ 3:03Andrew McLeod, Founder of Certn ($100M+ Raised) | How to Find Product Market Fit · PMF Show
PredictionNot checkable as stated
McLeod: In the future, job candidates will own their background credentials
“Like the future is candidates own all this information. And today we're giving it, we give it to all candidates so they can share it because in, in my world and my future, it shouldn't have to be a retroactive thing.”
Andrew McLeodJun 1, 2023▶ 29:23Andrew McLeod, Founder of Certn ($100M+ Raised) | How to Find Product Market Fit · PMF Show
Disclosure
McLeod: Certn condenses new product validation into a five-day process
“So every time we do a new, every time we think about doing a new product, we have basically, we've condensed it down to a five day process.”
Andrew McLeodJun 1, 2023▶ 1:43Andrew McLeod, Founder of Certn ($100M+ Raised) | How to Find Product Market Fit · PMF Show
AssertionNot checkable as stated
McLeod: Certn signed Victoria's three biggest landlords using InVision mocks
“So our first customers with Certain were actually, there were, like, the three biggest landlords in Victoria all basically signed up right away with a, you know, with, like, literally an Envision Moth”
Andrew McLeodJun 1, 2023▶ 14:34Andrew McLeod, Founder of Certn ($100M+ Raised) | How to Find Product Market Fit · PMF Show
AssertionNot checkable as stated
McLeod: Certn grew from 24 to roughly 500 employees since COVID-19 started
“In, when the pandemic started, there were 24 Sirtonians, and now there's like 500.”
Andrew McLeodJun 1, 2023▶ 25:36Andrew McLeod, Founder of Certn ($100M+ Raised) | How to Find Product Market Fit · PMF Show
AssertionNot checkable as stated
McLeod: A customer had a 40% candidate dropout rate before using Certn
“I mean, one of our customers hires 13,000 people per year, and prior to certain, 40% of people would drop out during the screening process because it would take too long.”
Andrew McLeodJun 1, 2023▶ 25:47Andrew McLeod, Founder of Certn ($100M+ Raised) | How to Find Product Market Fit · PMF Show
Made with StarZero
Turn any episode into a week of clips.
This entire site, over 250 episodes transcribed, diarized, checked and made playable,
runs on the StarZero media pipeline. Drop in your own episode and the podcast clipper finds the
moments worth sharing, cuts them, captions them, and reframes them for every feed.
We use essential cookies to make the site work. With your permission we
also use analytics cookies (Google Analytics and Mixpanel) to understand
usage and improve StarZero. See our Cookie Policy.