Pierce Ujjainwalla contrasts legacy marketing automation platforms like Marketo, Salesforce, and Adobe with modern collaborative software like Figma.
Opinion
Ujjainwalla: Knak integrates with Adobe Marketing Cloud better than Adobe does
“We connect better into the Adobe marketing cloud than Adobe does natively.
There are lots of integrations that don't exist through products that Adobe all owns that we do.”
Opinion
Marketo suffered critical engineering brain drain after acquisitions by Vista and Adobe
“Marketo got acquired a couple of, they went public, they got acquired by Vista, then they got acquired by Adobe, and I think at each of those acquisitions, they lost a lot of talent to the people who, you know, the early engineers and product people who kind o…”
Disclosure
Ujjainwalla Kept Consulting Business Full-Time Until Knak Reached $1M ARR
“And to be honest, I hadn't left my consulting business when we were doing a million in error because of exactly that. Like the consulting business was still way more successful than NAC was.”
Insight
Ujjainwalla: Figma Beat InVision by Unifying the End-to-End Workflow
“When I think back, like, what happened to them, right? I think they just stayed as that collaboration platform. They weren't able, if you look at Figma, it was the, from creation to exporting and had amazing collaboration in between. So I think that this, like…”
Prediction Held up
Ujjainwalla: Incumbent marketing platforms will re-enter asset creation via GenAI
“Now, there is a whole new focus on content generation now with generative AI, and so I think a lot of them are going back
Back to what we're doing.
Cause it's sexy again.
Like, hey, there's generative AI images and text, and that fits really nicely into these …”
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Ujjainwalla: Knak built its enterprise product via customer-funded IP retention deal
“We built like a custom package for them where they funded a lot of the custom development of our enterprise This product. From the beginning, we would own all of that IP, and it was just such a great partnership because their vision aligned to ours.”