SaaS

also referred to as: software as a service

19 statements across 18 episodes · 5 bullish · 7 bearish · 18 people on the record · first statement Mar 8, 2024 by Jay Myers · across every show →

Everything said about SaaS, oldest first

Mar 8, 2024 neutral
Insight
Myers: Almost every SaaS company hits a subscription death curve
“Almost every SAS company has a growth curve that looks like this in the beginning, it goes up, up, and then it flattens and I call it the subscription death curve.”
Jay Myers Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 25:23 How to Launch an SMB Product | Jay Myers, Founder of Bold · PMF Show
Mar 8, 2024 negative
Insight
Myers: Pure social media ad acquisition is unsustainable for SaaS
“Very few people see success running just ads on social media. You have to have more like, that's like the tip that gets them in. And then you need to increase the value of those customers. Once they come in, if you have to do it, Sure. It's fine. But like long…”
Jay Myers Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 24:52 How to Launch an SMB Product | Jay Myers, Founder of Bold · PMF Show
Mar 11, 2024 negative
Insight
Stevenson: The default outcome for new software feature launches is zero retention
“At our company, we say like, actually most things you launch, that's the pattern you see weeks, the wiggles of death. It's like, oh, the user's like, oh, it's a new feature. I'll play with it. And you see like a couple of little spikes of people using it and t…”
Scott Stevenson Mar 11, 2024 ▶ 12:36 For 5 years he struggled to get traction. Then with AI he grew 12x— in 1 year | Scott Stevenson, ... · PMF Show
Jun 17, 2024 bearish
Assertion Contradicted
Walker: SaaS customer acquisition costs have spiked by up to 4x
“Cost to acquire a customer is more than doubled in a SaaS business, sometimes three or four X.”
Chris Walker Jun 17, 2024 ▶ 23:45 He grew to $22M ARR in 4 years—but regrets spending so much on growth. | Chris Walker, Founder of... · PMF Show
Jul 22, 2024 neutral
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Mishra: Any SaaS solution takes two to three years to stabilize
“Try to speculate and predict where, what would be the problem which will hit the market really hard in next two to three years, so that, because that's a time which any software as a service solution Takes to stabilize.”
Shubham Mishra Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 4:47 In 2019, he went all-in on AI, grew to $3M ARR in 2 years—then to $85M ARR in 5. | Shubham Mishra... · PMF Show
Aug 22, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Walker: AI SaaS pre-seed valuation caps average $12M–$13M versus $9M–$10M
“So if you look at like, just take SAS versus AI SAS. So like non, non AI versus AI, but in the single SAS enterprise category, you know, on that same valuation cap basis for a pre-seed round, the AI might be, you know, a million on 12, one million on 13. As th…”
Peter Walker Aug 22, 2024 ▶ 11:56 Q2 Early-Stage Venture Report w/ Carta’s Head of Insights: Valuations, Round Sizes, Graduation Ra... · PMF Show
Oct 28, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Healthcare SaaS subscriptions were not seen as viable in 2000
“You try to explain to people, we're going to take electronic, we're going to take health records. We're going to put them on the internet. We're going to charge people forever. I mean, it wasn't obvious to anybody that that was a model that was going to stick …”
Mike Wessinger Oct 28, 2024 ▶ 8:50 In 2004, they "almost bankrupted themselves". In 2024, they hit $500M ARR & a $5B valuation. | Mi... · PMF Show
Nov 21, 2024 negative
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Anderson: E-commerce is one of the hardest spaces to sell into
“Most of the brands that we would win, it would take, you know, three months to get to a signed contract, sometimes as long as six months and did not know this before, but e-commerce is one of the, I think most challenging spaces to sell into. Because there's s…”
David Anderson Nov 21, 2024 ▶ 20:07 He raised $16M, hit $1M ARR—& failed. Here are the top 3 lessons he learned. | David Anderson, Fo... · PMF Show
Feb 20, 2025
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Wang: Analytics startups handle unnatural data scale relative to early revenue
“Analytics more so than, you know, your traditional SaaS company or traditional consumer company has quite a bit of You know, infrastructure slash software challenges to it. Like even at the time when I joined up with them, even though there were very few custo…”
Jeff Wang Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 15:03 Amplitude is now a $1.5B public company. Here's how they beat competitors with a 10x cheaper prod... · PMF Show
Mar 6, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Chopra: VCs refused to touch SMB SaaS startups in 2011
“After the angel round, we had a very hard time raising any VC then to top up because no one wanted to touch SME back then. So SME was kind of a dirty word, right? The SME businesses really did not make money. SaaS for SMBs was just not there yet, especially th…”
Saurav Chopra Mar 6, 2025 ▶ 5:11 He started Groupon for SMBs, grew to $36M ARR—then exited for $170M. | Saurav Chopra, Founder of ... · PMF Show
Mar 24, 2025 negative
Insight
Thin-Wrapper Fintechs Sacrifice Long-Term Unit Economics for Fast Launches
“Typically what you'll see in FinTech, and this actually surprises a lot of people, is that Fintech is actually more of an art or science of integration and orchestration across other people's technology than it is a real science and art of building your own te…”
Jeff Adamson Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 56:10 He sold SkipTheDishes for $200M—then grew Neo Financial to a $1B valuation. | Jeff Adamson, Co-Fo... · PMF Show
Apr 24, 2025 positive
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Tian advises first-time founders to build a SaaS or GPT wrapper
“The other one, which I recommend for first-time founders, it's just like, build a SaaS, you know, build a GPT wrapper you know, have a great landing page, you know, try to do everything you can to drive traffic.”
Wesley Tian Apr 24, 2025 ▶ 50:28 1st-time founder grows AI headshot app from $0 to $10M ARR in 2 years—with no funding. | Wesley T... · PMF Show
Aug 18, 2025 positive
Opinion
Lingelbach: AI coding tools eliminated the barrier to building good MVPs
“There's just no barrier anymore to making a good MVP. Like software as a service has never been easier. There's so many AI coding tools. There's so much like engineering talent that's hungry.”
Michael Lingelbach Aug 18, 2025 ▶ 1:05:08 His Video AI app hit $10M+ ARR in Months—with 0 outbound sales. | Michael Lingelbach, Founder of ... · PMF Show
Oct 13, 2025
Disclosure
Bugcrowd monetizes through a SaaS fee rather than taking bounty cuts
“So the liquidity from supply to demand basically operates as a float across the top of everything. We're charging customers for is using the platform to make the program itself happen in the first place. So it's basically a SAS like your revenue model.”
Casey Ellis Oct 13, 2025 ▶ 28:38 He tested his pitch on Uber drivers—then built a cybersecurity platform to $180M raised. | Casey ... · PMF Show
Nov 3, 2025 neutral
Insight
Most SaaS applications are just work management tools under different names
“Look, most SaaS tools Our work management tools. We just happen to call them by different names. The work for sales is called opportunity. Work for marketing is called campaigns. Work for support is called tickets. Work for ops is called incidents and work for…”
Dheeraj Pandey Nov 3, 2025 ▶ 19:41 He built a $20B public company, left—then raised a $100M Series A. | Dheeraj Pandey, Founder of N... · PMF Show
Mar 19, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Haroun: Markets are overreacting to AI threats against SaaS companies
“So I think in SaaS people are frankly, maybe even overreacting because they don't realize like how hard it is to get the kind of distribution.”
Omar Haroun Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 14:55 How he grew his AI startup from $2M to $20M ARR in 12 months. | Omar Haroun, Co-Founder of Eudia · PMF Show
Mar 26, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Goel: Legacy SaaS companies relying solely on 'system of record' status will be wiped out
“And any company which is still providing shelves, checklists, just kind of like these digital drawers, and then calling themselves system of record, Only based on that, that we are irreplaceable because system of record, I think they'll get wiped out.”
Yogi Goel Mar 26, 2026 ▶ 36:33 He raised $41M in one year to replace enterprise accountants with AI. | Yogi Goel, Founder of Maxima · PMF Show
Apr 6, 2026 bearish
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Kahlow: Autonomous AI agents threaten incumbent SaaS engagement systems
“Similar to, like, the shift from SaaS to AI, you know, that is one of the key fundamental things that's going to challenge any incumbent SaaS company today. Systems of record moved to systems of engagement, like Sixth Sense, and now are moving to systems of ag…”
Amanda Kahlow Apr 6, 2026 ▶ 20:24 She got rejected by 22 VCs—then built 6sense to $100M+ in revenue. Now she's back for AI. | Amand... · PMF Show
Aug 10, 2026 bullish
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Zima: SaaS buyers purchase development slope and long-term trust, not current features
“People want to both buy you for what the product's doing today, but they're buying you for the slope too. Like they can see your progress and they want to buy that progress also because like the beautiful thing about SAS is we want them to be a customer for th…”
Colin Zima Aug 10, 2026 ▶ 23:34 He lost his first 5 deals—built the next Looker, raised $250M | Omni
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