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Lessin: Musk and SpaceX Dedicated 100% of First Colossus Project to Anthropic
“We have seen perhaps the strangest AI compute deal to date, which is Anthropic Colossus. So SpaceX, Elon Musk. Have given over their first Colossus project. 100%. Not like 40%.”
Morin: AI could reduce software-driven inequality over the next 20 years
“I think this is, there's like a likelihood that the inequality that has been driven by software entrepreneurship up until this point is that kind of a local maxima and that because today anyone in the world can create software at a pace that was impossible six…”
Morin: Tech layoffs stem from pandemic overhiring, AI is just an excuse
“Everybody is doing this because they overhired in the pandemic. AI is a convenient excuse.”
Dave Morin: AI Labs Used Christian Theological Doomerism to Market AI
“They've only used the doomer kind of, we've talked about it at length on this pod. Like it's like a Christian theological doomer. Like we are creating a God. You should fear it. They've used this one version of a message. It's actually ancient spiritual techno…”
Sam Lessin claims Anthropic has officially surpassed OpenAI as biggest AI company
“Anthropic passed open AI.”
Sam Lessin calls frontier AI a commodity business trading at software multiples
“The infrastructure is worth not zero. It is infrastructure like you're on something in it. Right. But like it is it's a commodity business. Right. And it's a great one. I really enjoy it, but it's definitely like commodity business with tech multiples.”
Dave Morin hears frontier AI labs are lobbying to federally ban open-source
“Well, what I'm actually hearing is that they're trying to make open source illegal at the federal level.”
Dave Morin argues China is rapidly outpacing the US in open-source AI
“Chinese innovation and open source models is really rapid and really impressive. Like these guys are doing extremely good work extremely quickly. And by the way, there's no great open source American model that is Truly open source.”
Dave Morin compares Anthropic's AI safety narrative to Catholic Church fear tactics
“The Catholic Church's narrative that was so successful for multiple, whatever, many hundreds of years was a Doomer narrative, and that the anthropic Doomer narrative basically uses the exact same fear trick in order to create a similar narrative, and that mayb…”
OpenAI's shift to a for-profit was a bait and switch
“This conversion of being like, oh, we're just doing a research project. Don't worry, we're scraping the entire internet, but it's just for good. It's just for a research project. And then flipping that into, oh, no, actually it isn't. I just think it was like …”
AI companies are buying failed startups' Slack instances for training data
“You've got big foundation model companies are out there buying the slack instances of failed startups to get more data.”
Lessin: Leaked OpenAI memo targeted Anthropic's ARR math and compute investment
“There was a memo that was leaked from OpenAI, an OpenAI memo that was leaked. I think it was in OpenAI's interest for this memo to be out there. I also think it was written in a way where they wanted it to be out there, where they came after Anthropic. Both fo…”
Morin: Frontier AI labs run opposition research teams planting hit stories
“There's truly oppositional research teams inside each company that I've now heard about for probably five to 10 times, like for different stories and companies that have been planted by the other. And it's like the nastiest PR setting I've seen in all of tech.…”
Rauch: Nearly 70% of Vercel documentation traffic comes from coding agents
“Nearly 70% of traffic To Vercel docs is now coming from coding agents. 70% and only 30% of page views are coming from humans.”
Sam Lessin: Autonomous Agents Importing Unknown Code Will Trigger Trust Collapse
“The second cataclysm of AI is gonna be, you're just gonna, like, have all these agents running around doing crazy shit, and including things they have no idea what they're doing, and they'll check the APIs, be like, yeah, that thing works, and it sort of will,…”
Morin: Full-stack AI code generation breaks traditional internet cybersecurity
“A lot of the way that we built software, which was like, we're going to build all these little shims in between, and there's going to be all this open source software and I'm going to use yours and you're going to use mine and it's going to make my life easier…”
Sam Lessin: OpenAI's $850B Valuation Is Ridiculous Amid Commodity Competition
“I mean, like they're just, I just, this is like a ridiculous, this is just ridiculous. I mean, it's like, whatever, it doesn't like, if you want to buy 20 cents of infrastructure per dollar in a thing with like increasing competition where it turns out the sto…”
Sam Lessin: AI models are indefensible commodities won by cheap energy
“It's like whoever has cheap energy eventually wins as a commodity business with no defensibility.”
Lessin: Tech PMs and Engineers Disrupted Themselves; Building Shifts to Domain Experts
“I actually think that Silicon Valley, and at least, you know, let's call it your average PM slash engineer in Silicon Valley, hilariously did just completely disrupt themselves. You no longer have a stranglehold on anything in building, and the building is goi…”
Sam Lessin: Tech faces 100x employment downshift from bot management
“It's just like basically like for every hundred software engineering jobs, there's going to be one master of bots job created, right? It'll be, you know, a hundred x downshift.”
Lessin: Rogue AI agent triggered major security alert at Meta
“A rogue AI agent triggered a major security alert at Meta by taking action without approval that led to exposure of sensitive information and user data to Meta employees who could not authorize it.”
Lessin: OpenClaw Has Zero Switching Costs and Disappearing Would Disrupt Nothing
“If OpenClaw went away tomorrow, it would disrupt nothing. Right. It would just be like, fine. You just use nano cloud. Like there's no cost of switching at all.”
Lessin: Claude will pass OpenAI in ARR within two months
“Something would have to change in a dramatic fashion for Claude to not cross OpenAI in the next two months. Like, something weird would have to happen.”
Sam Lessin: General intelligence AI is low-margin and a terrible business
“There's just general intelligence, it's low margin, it's, I mean, it's great, I'm, like, literally building stuff as we talk, I'm, like, into it, but I think it's a terrible business.”
Sam Lessin: YC-style customer discovery is obsolete for building AI businesses
“That customer discovery, YC style, like blah, blah, blah, is just so wrong for the moment in terms of how to build a business. Because just because like bill in sales has some CRM shim problem, it doesn't matter. Like you can't build it and give it to him and …”
Morin: Apple and Google have the only working AI business models
“They're like the only ones in AI, other than, I guess, Google, that's executing a business model in AI that actually works.”
Brit Morin: Half of Bay Area engineers face unemployment within three years
“Well, you and I said half of the software engineers that are employed right now It in the Bay area will not be employed three years from now.”
Sam Lessin: Software Engineers Fear Protesting AI Because It Signals Incompetence
“To admit that you are worried about software taking your job as a software builder is to effectively say that you are a bad software engineer, right?”
Lessin: AI will be low-margin commodity determined entirely by energy costs
“This is basically all gonna back to energy at some level. There's not gonna be that very much margin in it. And like, low cost intelligence production is going to be the key.”
Jess Lessin: Saudi PIF is dry of capital, but the UAE is not
“Specifically, PIF is dry. PIF. But the UAE is not dry.”
Sam Lessin: AI models will commoditize and price at energy cost
“The, you know, the original narrative was someone would get to AGI and then that would be the end of the game is not how this is playing out. Everyone's gonna get to the same shit. It's all commodity. It's all getting a price to the cost of energy. And it's al…”
Sam Lessin: Software and technical difficulty are no longer defensible business moats
“Being hard is not a moat anymore. Software is not a moat anymore.”
Sam Lessin: AI-driven loss of meaning will push people toward extreme cults
“AI is only going to accelerate that because people's sense of meaning goes away. So the market draws us towards cults and community, right? In these extremes and weird shit in order to like create a sense of purpose and meaning.”
Sam Lessin: AI wealth concentration will lead to economic revolutions
“The latter is gone and the value doesn't get shared, which is how you're going to end up with revolutions”
Sam Lessin: Software workers will be eviscerated and potentially replaced by nothing
“I actually think of anything like a lot of people who like had a skill that was valuable, and allowed them to a lot of comfort and like to feel like they had a role economically or whatever are just going to get eviscerated. And it's very possible it gets repl…”
Lessin: Bay Area software engineer headcount will drop to 300,000
“Well, so I will go down, in three years, I'll go down to 300,000, and then I think it probably drops.”
Dave Morin: Anthropic claims software engineering jobs will vanish in 12 months
“Anthropic says no one will be doing software engineering 12 months from now.”
Lessin: Selling Raw AI Tokens Cannot Produce Profitable Businesses
“You also can't make any money as a company who sells tokens or intelligence.”
Sam Lessin: Decentralized edge AI frameworks like OpenClaw harm OpenAI
“This is not good for open AI... The heavy brute force of LLMs is not a winner take all, it's not going to be an erase the AGI... The interesting game becomes on the edge and things like open claw are the decentralized version of it. So it becomes kind of irrel…”
Jessica Lessin: xAI is shaky with model and infrastructure problems
“Things seem pretty shaky over there. They've got infrastructure problems, they've got model problems, and now they're losing people.”
Dave Morin: Three-person agentic engineering teams produce 1,000x more software
“Some of these operations like are three people that are producing not just 10 X, we're talking a thousand X the mouse amount of software.”
Dave Morin: Advanced agentic teams abandon Git for automated 'merge bosses'
“Now I will say one, but saying the other thing on the diff thing I'm hearing is that nobody's using Git anymore. They have these like merge bosses that, you know, basically”
Sam Lessin: AI will reduce software developers to 10 global 'wizards'
“There's like 10 wizards in the world. And then everything else is done by machines. And then consumers are now just like writing software for themselves that happened to be communally updating it, but they're not developers anymore. They're just like participa…”
Sam Lessin: AI will eliminate median knowledge jobs, leaving only elite roles
“I personally think that all this stuff just gets washed away, right? If you take out all the way, and they don't come back because there is no P-fifty job anymore. Like there's a P-ninety-nine job. If you truly the best in the world at something, you'll be fin…”
Sam Lessin: Open-source AI hacks will drive users to Apple and Google
“What's going to happen at some point is someone's going to come out with one that's great. Right. And it's open and whatever, and it's free. And then you're going to be, and it's going to be totally controlled by like some hacker network that's going to do ter…”