Mike Brown, CEO and co-founder of Teamshares, explains the company's operating model when buying small businesses under $2M in EBITDA.
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Brown: Median Private Equity Funds Now Underperform the S&P 500
“The returns are really bad now. And so for that's, again, the capital's argument, the returns are terrible now, generally. The median fund. There's obviously ours, right? So it's almost, it seems like it's become venture-like where you've got a top decile that…”
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Brown: PE HVAC roll-ups bought at 12x EBITDA are entering liquidation
“Literally people are buying HVAC companies for 12 times EBITDA. These are businesses that are like project based businesses, right? And now you're saying chapter seven liquidations of private equity backed HVAC things.”
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Brown: There will never be enough buyers for retiring small-business owners
“And the Eureka moment was that look, this is a supply demand equation. They're just never going to be enough buyers for these businesses.”
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Brown: 'For Sale By Owner' is a false proposition for small businesses
“The issue is, is that that kind of like for sale by owner Fizbo in the home market, it's a false value prop. There's a reason why people pay those fees. So that, that was sort of on the seller side. There's a reason why people say those fees, you kind of only,…”
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Brown: Teamshares tax return is longer than Berkshire Hathaway's
“Our tax returns longer than Berkshire Hathaway. Like, this is the third, there are like almost a hundred subsidiaries in this company, right?”
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Brown: Teamshares plans to grow corporate EBITDA to $100M by 2027
“We put out a forecast, right, to go from nineteen million of corporate EBITDA. So there's, like, segment EBITDA, right, so it's just sort of roughly, you know, sixty million, but then after our parent overhead of 90 people that, you know, propelled the machine…”