SpaceX

42 statements across 20 episodes · 15 bullish · 8 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Jul 19, 2024 by Jessica Lessin · across every show →

Everything said about SpaceX, oldest first

Jul 19, 2024 negative
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: Musk times planned business moves to match sensational political headlines
“Musk, in my mind, you know, makes strategic business decisions all day long and then waits for a headline to announce them to make it seem like the assassination attempt got his endorsement or that a new law in California around LGBTQ kids caused him to move a…”
Jessica Lessin Jul 19, 2024 ▶ 18:08 #56: Trump and the PayPal Mafia · More or Less Podcast
Oct 18, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: SpaceX Took Longer Securing Regulatory Approval Than Building Starship
“My favorite. Interview tidbit with Elon last week that I saw was that it took them more time to get the approval to do the launch of the rocket that they launched last week than it took them to actually build the rocket. So they built a, whatever, a 20, 25 sto…”
Dave Morin Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 39:40 #69: Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype · More or Less Podcast
Oct 18, 2024 positive
Insight
Lessin: Musk won aerospace talent because legacy competitors' cultures were so bad
“Elon did a very good job selecting places to build where the cultures were so bad at the competitors that he could kind of be a dick and also push people really hard. And the working environment didn't have to be that great because if you want to work on rocke…”
Sam Lessin Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 32:50 #69: Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype · More or Less Podcast
Oct 18, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Dave Morin: SpaceX caught a 23-story tall rocket booster
“That thing's a 20, it's a 23 story building that they caught.”
Dave Morin Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 18:19 #69: Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype · More or Less Podcast
Oct 18, 2024 negative
Insight
Lessin: Investors back Musk's weaker ventures solely to access SpaceX
“It's this weird dynamic that's developed because he's the kind of key person in all these companies where people fund these things or his dalliances, even Twitter, right? For access to the actually good stuff. And so you end up in this weird zone where like, I…”
Sam Lessin Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 34:55 #69: Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype · More or Less Podcast
Mar 14, 2025 bearish
Prediction Partly held up
Sam Lessin: Getting humans to Mars during Trump's administration is impossible
“Everyone, you know, you're up there applauding like this, like window, we're going to get to Mars in Trump's administration. And it's absolute horseshit. Like we, like there aren't even window launch windows open for that to happen.”
Sam Lessin Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 20:46 #90: Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration · More or Less Podcast
Mar 14, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Sam Lessin discloses he has millions personally invested in SpaceX
“I'm a SpaceX shareholder. I love SpaceX. I have millions of dollars personally in SpaceX because I love, I think it's an amazing fucking company.”
Sam Lessin Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 21:01 #90: Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration · More or Less Podcast
Mar 28, 2025 positive
Opinion
Brit Morin: Silicon Valley sentiment toward Elon Musk is roughly 60-40 favorable
“I would say not 75%, but maybe sixty-forty favorable to Elon out here, and I think it's because of, there's just so many fanboys and a few fangirls of SpaceX and the rockets, and they caught them on toothpicks, and humanoid robots, and autonomous vehicles, and…”
Brit Morin Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 28:35 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Mar 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Elon Musk controls SpaceX secondaries based on his daily mood
“There's just no venture capitalist who wants to be on bad terms with him, either because they want in on the next deal, or they just want preferential terms in the SpaceX secondaries, which he controls literally based on how many people emailed him in what ord…”
Jessica Lessin Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 32:31 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
May 30, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Musk gave Apple a 72-hour deadline on Starlink proposal
“Also, some amazing detail about their conversations with Elon Musk and SpaceX over using Starlink, where Apparently must gave them a 72 hour deadline to accept or reject his proposal.”
Jessica Lessin May 30, 2025 ▶ 48:06 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
Aug 8, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2027
Jessica Lessin: OpenAI has a 90% chance of going public by 2027
“I will say I'm 40% 2026, but like 90% 2027. So I think there is a re reasonable chance next year, and like, I just think they're not gonna go a Stripe, a SpaceX, and all that kind of stuff. Like, they're just not. The body language is totally different.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 16:11 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Aug 29, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2027
Dave Morin: SpaceX Starship will be viable for investment within 24 months
“Yesterday was a pretty strong signal that, you know, you can start investing in this new platform, and you're probably gonna see it in the next 24 months.”
Dave Morin Aug 29, 2025 ▶ 26:03 #114 Seed Rounds at $2B? The Dangers of AI Hype in VC With Tony Conrad · More or Less Podcast
Sep 26, 2025 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Jessica Lessin: SpaceX Starship currently lacks a human launch abort system
“There's currently no way, if a launch needed to be aborted, that the crew could escape. And this is, I didn't know this, but this is like the key thing that SpaceX has to figure out to put people on the Starship.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 26, 2025 ▶ 13:31 #118 Elon vs Altman: The $10B Capital War Reshaping Tech · More or Less Podcast
Dec 19, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin predicts SpaceX, OpenAI, and Anthropic IPOs by 2027
“I think I've said this here by, you know, end of next year. Beginning of the next, real chance of SpaceX IPO, OpenAI IPO, Anthropic IPO.”
Jessica Lessin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 23:09 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Morin: Investing in SpaceX at $1.5T requires believing it reaches $5T to $10T
“I mean, investing as a new investor at the current valuation, you have to believe this is a five to 10 trillion dollar company, I think.”
Brit Morin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 20:24 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Insight
Sam Lessin: Capital gains taxes create an artificial floor under mega-cap stocks
“I'd rather just be long it and hold it, because you'd have to believe, not only is SpaceX overvalued, you have to have the opinion that it's so bad, right, that it's gonna underperform the rest of the market by 50% from where it is, for it to be worth taking t…”
Sam Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 16:25 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: SpaceX IPO will be seen as a bellwether for Anthropic and OpenAI
“The other thing I hear that wasn't obvious to me is how much this will be seen, this IPO will be seen as a bellwether for Anthropic and OpenAI”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 24:54 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Public market investors are trimming Mag 7 for upcoming mega IPOs
“And I gotta say by and large, and it's anecdotal, but there are enough of them. They are very, very excited about these companies and they're selling down their mag seven positions a little bit to, or preparing to like go all in on these companies.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 14:48 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Morin: Starlink is Musk's way to put AI data centers in space
“And I think this is like Elon's way of getting data centers in space and everything that we need to power the AI future that we have.”
Brit Morin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 23:42 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Starlink is almost three times larger than SpaceX launch business
“Three times as big almost as space launch.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 23:35 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Lessin: Musk and SpaceX have pivoted focus to the Moon
“He has. Yes, they pivoted to the moon.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 24:32 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 17, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: SpaceX share supply will stay low post-IPO while index buying drives demand
“There's going to be less supply and you think of shares, right? And then the demand for shares will have much less to do with like a specific thesis They will be like, yeah, you kind of have to buy it because it's huge, right? Like if you're indexing a bunch o…”
Sam Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 20:41 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 24, 2026
Assertion Supported
Elon Musk to get massive comp plan in SpaceX IPO
“The information reported this week, not only unsurprisingly, is he getting super voting shares in the SpaceX IPO, but he now Elon has a really aggressive comp plan as well that will give him tens of millions of shares if I think the market cap goes to 6.6 tril…”
Jessica Lessin Apr 24, 2026 ▶ 29:27 What Tim Cook’s “Executive Chairman” Move Really Means | Musk vs OpenAI, xAI and Cursor Rumors
May 1, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Dave Morin predicts insane returns for Google from SpaceX and Anthropic investments
“Even just the returns that they're going to see from their SpaceX and Anthropic investment is insane.”
Dave Morin May 1, 2026 ▶ 39:47 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Musk and SpaceX Dedicated 100% of First Colossus Project to Anthropic
“We have seen perhaps the strangest AI compute deal to date, which is Anthropic Colossus. So SpaceX, Elon Musk. Have given over their first Colossus project. 100%. Not like 40%.”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 5:05 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Lessin: SpaceX has filed its S-1, targeting June 12 IPO
“Well, and also we have SpaceX IPO S one is out confirming numbers previously reported by the information. June 12th, guys, is the rough date for liftoff.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 1:46 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Jessica Lessin prefers owning Anthropic over SpaceX at a $1T valuation
“I do think I'd rather own Anthropic at a trillion than SpaceX at a trillion.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 37:59 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
May 22, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: $1T is Anthropic's top valuation, SpaceX's absolute bottom
“Well, to be clear, a trillion is the top of the current Anthropik price and the by far bottom of the current SpaceX price.”
Sam Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 38:05 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
Jun 5, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Morin: Elon Musk and Key Investors Face 366-Day SpaceX Lockup
“Elon and key investors are 366 day. So full year lockups.”
Dave Morin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 9:50 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 5, 2026 neutral
Assertion Open · timeframe Jun 2027
Morin: SpaceX IPO features multi-tranche lockup ending at 180 days
“So they're doing seven percent tranches at seven, 9105, 121 135 days post IPO. Full release at 180 days for most holders.”
Dave Morin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 9:26 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 5, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Morin: SpaceX Allocated 5% to Directed Shares With No Lockup
“SpaceX reserved up to five percent of the IPO shares for a directed share program, which is people selected by the executive officers. And so they're offered at the IPO price and they have no post IPO lockup restrictions.”
Dave Morin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 9:55 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 5, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Retail Structurally Must Buy SpaceX Shares Post-IPO
“And the interesting thing is, it's really unclear who's buying it after you unless the rules of the S and P 500 change. And the answer is structurally retail has to buy it after you.”
Sam Lessin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 7:33 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 5, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Lessin: SpaceX's $1.75T IPO Valuation Makes No Financial Sense
“It is financially, if you look at it like with a Wall Street hat on, nonsense. Right? At a 1.75 trillion dollar valuation.”
Sam Lessin Jun 5, 2026 ▶ 6:15 Silicon Valley IPO Summer 2026: SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI Explained
Jun 12, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
SpaceX IPO Is 4x Oversubscribed With $300 Billion in Demand
“It's Forex oversubscribed. There's like almost three hundred billion in demand. Including a lot of the Middle East.”
Brit Morin Jun 12, 2026 ▶ 14:45 Apple’s New Siri, SpaceX’s $300B IPO & the AI Company Killing Its Own Brand · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Tesla and SpaceX trade at the world's highest revenue multiples
“Both Tesla and SpaceX are the two highest, I believe, like, dollars per dollar of revenue, or whatever you want to do, like, things in the world.”
Sam Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 6:18 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Mid-tier software startups will become incredibly hard to recruit for
“And so, like, for me, that's the interesting thing, is like, the middle just drops out. I think it becomes incredibly hard to recruit for.”
Sam Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 18:23 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
OpenAI and Anthropic privately whisper near-term IPO timeframes
“They're gonna Set the benchmark, you know, they're going to set the roadmap, the playbook for anthropic and open AI, which are waiting in the wings and privately whispering timeframes that are quite sooner rather than later.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 20:15 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
SpaceX reached a $2.5 trillion valuation as of June 2026
“We're at two and a half trillion dollars as of this taping.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 2:20 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Gwynne Shotwell donated hundreds of millions to Trump accounts
“And she did, and she donated hundreds of millions of dollars in SpaceX to Trump accounts.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 13:13 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Aug 7, 2026 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Elon Musk priced SpaceX to bail out xAI and Twitter investors
“He bailed out his XAI people. He bailed out his Twitter people. He bailed everyone out, right? So Elon gets to be the guy who makes everyone money, and if you're a SpaceX shareholder, you're like, whatever, you kind of got robbed on a few things, but number bi…”
Sam Lessin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 46:49 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Aug 7, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Dave Morin: Elon Musk claimed a $1T revenue target moved up a year
“The one-liner was that they have now moved, what, they've moved up one year their one trillion dollar revenue number. That was the kind of funny Elon quote from the earnings call, that things are going so well That they're going to hit one trillion one year ea…”
Dave Morin Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 47:29 Jeff Dean Leaves Google, Airtable Sells, and the Bag-Securing Era · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 bearish
Opinion
SpaceX is priced like a meme stock driven by media headlines
“Like SpaceX is a meme. It's a great meme. It's an awesome meme. Like, SpaceX, like Moderna, has every ability to pop out headlines that people are going to go nuts for. But, you know, it isn't that dissimilar from a GME, not in that they don't do amazing thing…”
Sam Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 36:03 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
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