Meta

also referred to as: facebook

includes Facebook Platform, Facebook Reels

182 statements across 84 episodes · 46 bullish · 75 bearish · 7 people on the record · first statement Jun 12, 2023 by Dave Morin · across every show →

Everything said about Meta, oldest first

Jun 12, 2023
Insight
Dave Morin: 3D headset experiences are almost impossible to market in 2D
“Like my point of view is that it's almost impossible to communicate a three-dimensional or four-dimensional experience on a two-dimensional screen.”
Dave Morin Jun 12, 2023 ▶ 4:14 #1: Apple's head scratchy VR rollout; VR vs. AI in the interface wars; crypto's 'nothing burger'? · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Dave Morin: Twitter was originally built to update Facebook statuses
“Jack Dorsey and Ev Williams And BizStone were launch partners of the Facebook platform, and they built Twitter to update Facebook statuses.”
Dave Morin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 19:24 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Britt Morin was one of 2,500 early adopters on Threads before launch
“I did post on the Threads yesterday as one of 2500 early adopters.”
Brit Morin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 1:22 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Threads will monetize terribly because text monetizes poorly
“Now it does mean it'll monetize much worse, right? Like text monetizes terribly. So it's not like, I don't think it's hard for me to imagine it being financially like deeply meaningful, but I think it'll be a great application.”
Sam Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 12:36 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 negative
Opinion
Lessin: Nobody Likes Twitter, So Copying It Has No Backlash
“The nice part about ripping off Twitter, if that's what this is, which it is is no one likes Twitter. So no one's like, oh, you ripped off Twitter.”
Sam Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 21:37 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 bullish
Assertion Supported
Dave Morin: Meta needs 18% of Instagram to match Twitter's size
“All they need to do is convert, I guess, about 18% of Instagram to threads, and they'll have an app the size of Twitter.”
Dave Morin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 17:44 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 bullish
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta's 3% pop on Threads launch added $20 billion
“Yeah, I mean, I think that whatever, the three percent pop in Facebook stock this morning was worth half of, was a twenty billion dollar pop on, I believe, mostly this news.”
Sam Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 16:22 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Threads will succeed as a platform but won't kill Twitter
“I actually am pretty optimistic. I think this will work. Now, whether it kills Twitter or just becomes yet another place you post things, I think is TBD. Like, I don't, it's hard to see it killing Twitter”
Sam Lessin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 10:28 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Jul 7, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: Mainstream audience will be on Threads within three years
“I think that the mainstream audience is going to be on threads and it's going to be powerful. And so I think to Sam's point, that distribution, Advantage can't be ignored and it will be very powerful three years from now, no question.”
Dave Morin Jul 7, 2023 ▶ 31:39 #5: Twitter Won't Die! Long Live Threads! · More or Less Podcast
Aug 25, 2023 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Facebook built 15 unreleased takes on presence features
“Facebook did 15 takes that we didn't roll out.”
Sam Lessin Aug 25, 2023 ▶ 40:46 #11: Why hybrid work doesn’t work, long live the phone call · More or Less Podcast
Aug 25, 2023 neutral
Insight
Dave Morin: Every social communication platform eventually becomes a chat product
“I mean, every social communicator, every, whether it's Yahoo, AOL, Facebook, everything becomes chat in the end.”
Dave Morin Aug 25, 2023 ▶ 31:48 #11: Why hybrid work doesn’t work, long live the phone call · More or Less Podcast
Sep 22, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Facebook was originally incorporated as a Florida LLC
“Facebook was originally a Florida LLC, right?”
Sam Lessin Sep 22, 2023 ▶ 12:38 #15: Instacart’s Fake IPO and Why Hiring in Tech Is So Broken · More or Less Podcast
Sep 29, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Dave Morin Says He Is No Longer Invited to Facebook's F8
“I started that conference and I don't even get invited to it anymore.”
Dave Morin Sep 29, 2023 ▶ 5:41 #16: Why Your AI Startup is Probably Already Dead · More or Less Podcast
Sep 29, 2023 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2026
Sam Lessin: Character AI will be displaced by platform incumbents
“Character AI, sayonara. Like, it's not like, you know, it's, these are cool ideas, but the reality is you have the data, you have the distribution. AI is an easy tack on for platforms. This is not disruptive. It's just extending what they can already do.”
Sam Lessin Sep 29, 2023 ▶ 8:33 #16: Why Your AI Startup is Probably Already Dead · More or Less Podcast
Oct 20, 2023 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta Controls Misinformation Much Better Than Twitter Currently Does
“They clearly don't have it under control, or at least Twitter, whatever Twitter calls itself, doesn't. Meta seems to be in a much better position.”
Dave Morin Oct 20, 2023 ▶ 39:09 #19: Answering for Misinformation: The New York Times Needs to be Held To Account · More or Less Podcast
Oct 27, 2023 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Wall Street is funding big tech over startups
“I'm in a hedge fund across from Google, you can see in the background, and the story is, unsurprisingly, they're shipping it to Microsoft and Meta and all the big companies. They are not shipping it to little companies anytime soon.”
Sam Lessin Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 3:14 #20: The New Founder Mindset: The End of the Product-Focused CEO · More or Less Podcast
Oct 27, 2023 positive
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta is primarily a business platform, not a product company
“Meta is a great business platform. Like, you take a lot of different products, you plug it into the machine, it is a great business platform that happens to also have some great products.”
Sam Lessin Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 29:42 #20: The New Founder Mindset: The End of the Product-Focused CEO · More or Less Podcast
Nov 3, 2023
Disclosure
Dave Morin tried and failed to centralize digital identity at Facebook
“Five years before that, I literally tried to do this with Facebook. Right? Like, we tried to centralize it, and that didn't work, right?”
Dave Morin Nov 3, 2023 ▶ 35:57 #21: AI Regulation, War and the Future of the American Tech Stack · More or Less Podcast
Nov 10, 2023 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: The Facebook developer platform died and failed
“Yeah, but Facebook platform died, babe. It didn't work.”
Sam Lessin Nov 10, 2023 ▶ 28:16 #22: Your GPT Will Make More Money Than Your Substack? Please Tell Us More… · More or Less Podcast
Nov 17, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Big Tech agreed to alert government when training AI models
“Meanwhile, Secretary Raimondo is telling me that all the big tech companies, OpenAI, Meta, Google, and so forth, are cooperating, are, and down to the level of agreeing to tell the government when they're running their next model.”
Jessica Lessin Nov 17, 2023 ▶ 6:45 #23: Why (and How) SMBs and Creators Will Win With AI, the New Financing Contracts, and More · More or Less Podcast
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Opinion
Morin defends Adam D'Angelo as highly rational and principled
“Adam is one of the highest integrity people that I've ever worked with. He's a very principled person and he you know, he's a very deliberate, very rational very serious actor. He's a very serious person, and so it does bother me a little bit that there's a lo…”
Dave Morin Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 23:02 #24: Sam Altman - Religious Cult Leader or CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Dec 1, 2023 positive
What-if
Lessin: If Facebook had acquired the DMV, online identity would be better
“And candidly, I think had Facebook bought the DMV a long time ago, you know, the world would be a better place. We'd have better, better online identity. And, ah, and maybe we'd be a little bit safer from some of the crazy interference we see, ah, these days i…”
Sam Lessin Dec 1, 2023 ▶ 1:33 #25: TikTok, Porn and The Immediate Risks of AI · More or Less Podcast
Dec 8, 2023 positive
Insight
Sam Lessin: Crypto is a business development hack against platform lock-in
“Part of the real answer for crypto for those types of use cases is I think pretty simple, which is everyone wants to be the CRM of record for that, but no one wants that person to be the CRM of record for that, right? So it's basically just like a standoff whe…”
Sam Lessin Dec 8, 2023 ▶ 39:12 #26: Google Gemini, Meet Crypto-Cyber-Crystals · More or Less Podcast
Dec 15, 2023 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Fragmented internet subcultures perpetually disrupt top-down corporate alignment
“As the internet has kind of become like, I think we can safely say in 20, 24, the internet has become culture worldwide. Like you have this, Splintering of cultures, right? Where every person in an organization pays attention to a different sub graph of some c…”
Dave Morin Dec 15, 2023 ▶ 40:24 #27: Make Number Go Up, and The Problem with Nonprofits · More or Less Podcast
Jan 19, 2024
Assertion Contradicted
Dave Morin: Facebook Platform Attracted Nearly One Million Developers in First Year
“Once we put the distribution incentive in place, suddenly, you know, we had close to, I think a million developers in one year.”
Dave Morin Jan 19, 2024 ▶ 27:45 #30: The Great App Store Debate, Layoffs, and Playoffs... Oh My! · More or Less Podcast
Jan 19, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Incumbents like Meta and Adobe will win AI through grinding warfare
“And Meta and Adobe. And like, it's all the same people, right? And they're just going to do grinding warfare.”
Sam Lessin Jan 19, 2024 ▶ 34:49 #30: The Great App Store Debate, Layoffs, and Playoffs... Oh My! · More or Less Podcast
Mar 22, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI startup talent will recombine into Big Tech within years
“If you believe, as I do, that all the value is going to accrue to the top five players anyway, what you'd expect is that, like, on some non-zero timeline, but in the next few years, all the talent that got excited about these startup opportunities and went fly…”
Sam Lessin Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 33:22 #39: How (Not?) to Exit Your AI Company, Analyzing the New Google-Apple Tie Up · More or Less Podcast
Apr 19, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Threads will not be a huge part of Meta's story
“I don't think the, I think the product is quite good, but I think if you look at the arc of Meta, I don't think Threads is going to be a huge part of the story.”
Jessica Lessin Apr 19, 2024 ▶ 14:57 #43: TikTok’s New App, Tesla’s Sunken Stock, Are Tech Workers Leaving Silicon Valley For Good? · More or Less Podcast
Apr 19, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Meta is pushing Threads harder than any asset in a decade
“More aggressively distributing threads than any asset they've ever distributed in maybe over five years, maybe 10 years.”
Dave Morin Apr 19, 2024 ▶ 16:10 #43: TikTok’s New App, Tesla’s Sunken Stock, Are Tech Workers Leaving Silicon Valley For Good? · More or Less Podcast
Apr 19, 2024 bearish
Disclosure
Dave Morin says he deleted the Facebook mobile app last year
“I deleted the blue app like last year sometime.”
Dave Morin Apr 19, 2024 ▶ 25:18 #43: TikTok’s New App, Tesla’s Sunken Stock, Are Tech Workers Leaving Silicon Valley For Good? · More or Less Podcast
Apr 26, 2024 neutral
Insight
Sam Lessin: Incumbents Will Dominate AI Features Via Existing Distribution
“It's nice to be 10% better at those prompts, but that's not what's going to dominate. It's just like whatever they choose to put in there is what's going to dominate, right? Like no one's going to like change, no one's going to not use LinkedIn because some up…”
Sam Lessin Apr 26, 2024 ▶ 40:24 #44: The $1B AI Girlfriend Market, the Tech Hedge Fund Fallout and Why VCs Can’t Quit AI · More or Less Podcast
Apr 26, 2024
Disclosure
Sam Lessin: Facebook Forced Me to Sign Non-Compete Over Venmo
“When I went and worked at Facebook on the way in, one senior executive reviewed all my investments and told me which ones I had to divest from. Interestingly, path was fine at the time, but Venmo was a big problem. And then, yeah, believe it or not, I had to s…”
Sam Lessin Apr 26, 2024 ▶ 6:33 #44: The $1B AI Girlfriend Market, the Tech Hedge Fund Fallout and Why VCs Can’t Quit AI · More or Less Podcast
May 24, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Big tech platforms will capture AI value while startups die
“If you have a big platform that gets better with better targeting or copy, you're great. You know, the meds of the world, the Google, you're going to do fabulous. As long as you get the cost of the stuff down, you're in business. You're going to do great. You'…”
Sam Lessin May 24, 2024 ▶ 2:47 #48: Move Fast (But Don't) Break Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
May 24, 2024
Insight
Lessin: Tech value comes from market timing, not copying sci-fi
“The job of technologists is not to just simply read science fiction and say, well, that's cool. Let's build that. That's easy, right? Like science fiction goes way out in the future, has cool ideas, And the JV version of product management or building is you'r…”
Sam Lessin May 24, 2024 ▶ 9:27 #48: Move Fast (But Don't) Break Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
May 24, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Zuckerberg coined "move fast" so engineers wouldn't fear breaking Facebook
“And it was a lot about, we had actually just had an engineer that took down the entire site, and the engineer was feeling absolutely terrible because the, you know, the change he made in the code caused us to lose some ad revenue that day. And Mark was looking…”
Dave Morin May 24, 2024 ▶ 43:52 #48: Move Fast (But Don't) Break Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
May 24, 2024 negative
Opinion
Lessin: Oculus only survived because Facebook acquired and sheltered it
“The only reason Oculus exists today versus being a completely fucked company that is dead in the water 10 years ago is because Facebook picked it up and sheltered it, right?”
Sam Lessin May 24, 2024 ▶ 14:10 #48: Move Fast (But Don't) Break Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Jun 7, 2024 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Jessica Lessin: Google and Facebook Paid News Publishers, Then Stopped
“Quality news publishers learned that the hard way from Google and Facebook that paid them a bunch of money and stopped paying them. So that's one reason you don't do it is that the priorities of these platforms change and”
Jessica Lessin Jun 7, 2024 ▶ 44:55 #50: Startups to Start: Media Edition · More or Less Podcast
Jun 7, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: Instagram Is a Declining Asset Meta Is Merely Harvesting
“You know, which to me suggests that this asset is, is now a declining asset. Like they're now in a position where they want to just harvest it, monetize it as much as possible while moving on to the next thing, which is probably threads fine.”
Dave Morin Jun 7, 2024 ▶ 18:47 #50: Startups to Start: Media Edition · More or Less Podcast
Jun 21, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Meta Will Realize Long-Term Value from Current AI Models
“Well, to be clear, I think we're going to see the value of it showing up in, like, meta earnings for a long time to come, which is incrementally what already exists, and, like, translation. There's a bunch of stuff that's, like, super valuable.”
Sam Lessin Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 57:18 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Jun 21, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Gil: Foundation model funding is mostly strategic hyperscalers, not VC
“Most of the money funding foundation models is strategic, right? Versus venture capital. Venture capital maybe funds things into the hundreds of millions, and then it gets handed off to Google and Amazon and Facebook and all the other folks to invest billions …”
Elad Gil Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 9:23 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Jun 21, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Steve Jobs Warned in 2008 That Facebook Would Become Like Cigarettes
“Dave and I both worked at Apple back in the day, and I remember the town hall that Steve spoke at in like, oh, seven, oh, eight, where he specifically pointed out that Facebook was going to be seeing the equivalent of cigarettes, and like how prescient was tha…”
Brit Morin Jun 21, 2024 ▶ 39:58 #52: Elad Gil on What to Build in AI (Part II) · More or Less Podcast
Jun 28, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Dave Morin: Facebook was already dead to him when Threads launched
“Facebook was already dead to me when threads launched. So it's like, it just didn't matter. I never use it. I don't log into it. I don't, I never open it.”
Dave Morin Jun 28, 2024 ▶ 37:50 #53: What We Got Wrong—and Right—in a Year of More or Less · More or Less Podcast
Jul 19, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: TikTok's Presence in the US Benefits Meta
“To get rid of TikTok is to point out the fact that its presence in the U.S. Is actually a net positive for Meta.”
Sam Lessin Jul 19, 2024 ▶ 31:13 #56: Trump and the PayPal Mafia · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Biden's Withdrawal Sparked Internal Meta Debate Over Threads
“The Threads No Politics policy hitting some internal debate, so we don't have to go deep into Threads, but we've talked at length about both how it kind of emerged as this breath of fresh air from the fierce debates on X, Especially around politics, and its wh…”
Jessica Lessin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 46:13 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024
Insight
Sam Lessin: Mid-Sized Tech Companies Cannot Band Together to Compete in AI
“The problem is you just have this power law of costs where, you know, you can't band a bunch of ten billion dollar companies together to compete with a trillion dollar company in this. You need a trillion dollar company To throw their hat in the ring, and then…”
Sam Lessin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 36:59 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta's Lack of a Simple Llama API Is a Strategic Mistake
“And like, the thing about LOM or anything is like, there just doesn't exist. Like someone will package that eventually, but like, they don't prioritize that. I actually think it's a strategic mistake. I think they should, purely for developer mindshare, not as…”
Sam Lessin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 22:05 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: FTC Chair Lina Khan Prevents Meta From Acquiring EssilorLuxottica
“Lina Khan ain't letting them buy anything. So that's why they're not buying the whole thing. Amazon couldn't buy a vacuum cleaner, guys.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 41:07 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Brit Morin: Meta and Google Are Both Attempting to Invest in EssilorLuxottica
“Meta trying to invest in Luxottica slash Supreme. And Google also trying, Google now trying to get on it too.”
Brit Morin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 37:24 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta Cannot Be Taken Seriously as an Open-Source Advocate
“I think it's very hard to take meta seriously when they talk about open source, because they are a highly centralized system. That controls the rents that get paid to every single player in their ecosystem. And so when Meta says something like, we really belie…”
Dave Morin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 26:27 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 bullish
Insight
Sam Lessin: Meta's Ad Business Is Uniquely Aligned With Open-Source AI
“Meta's business strategy and open source are highly aligned in a way that is not true for the companies that are hawking closed models.”
Sam Lessin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 17:35 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Jul 26, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Dave Morin: Facebook Briefly Hosted Startup Servers via 'The Grid'
“And it goes back to actually when I was working on the Facebook platform, we had a project back then that we called the grid and we were actually going to, we actually did for a hot minute right after we launched the platform provide server Resources to startu…”
Dave Morin Jul 26, 2024 ▶ 30:01 #57: Zuckerberg’s Open Source AI Manifesto · More or Less Podcast
Aug 2, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta shut down all of its expensive celebrity AI chatbots
“They also just shut down all their like super expensive celebrity bots. I think I read that in the information.”
Sam Lessin Aug 2, 2024 ▶ 28:16 #58: The Death of Friends · More or Less Podcast
Aug 2, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: No company besides Meta is consistently making money on AI
“All I'm saying is like, until people are consistently making money on AI, which no one is other than Meta, It's just a very chaotic period.”
Sam Lessin Aug 2, 2024 ▶ 20:32 #58: The Death of Friends · More or Less Podcast
Aug 2, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta has direct AI utility while Microsoft must sell it
“Because they have an actual use case for AI. Microsoft actually has to sell the fucking AI, right? Because that's the whole thing is not, they can't use it. They got to actually sell it.”
Sam Lessin Aug 2, 2024 ▶ 13:56 #58: The Death of Friends · More or Less Podcast
Aug 9, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Lessin: Extremely bullish on AI only for Google and Meta ads
“I'm, as, if you hadn't heard, I'm extremely long AI only in the case of ads optimization and making a shitload of money for Facebook and Google”
Sam Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 10:04 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
Aug 16, 2024 positive
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta's post-COVID culture and performance have worked effectively
“It seems like Meta is performing really well, right? Like, it seems like they've got, you know, their ass in gear on a lot of stuff, not everything, but like a lot of stuff, you know, post COVID and like, you know, Mark set a tone and the organization set a to…”
Sam Lessin Aug 16, 2024 ▶ 16:42 #60: Body Futurism and Why Gen Z is Ditching Tech · More or Less Podcast
Aug 23, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Morin: Meta smart glasses are the best frontier for ambient hardware
“But, you know, I will say, and I know there's other people with this take, but the meta sunglasses have really kind of proven to me that it's the best next frontier for this way of thinking.”
Dave Morin Aug 23, 2024 ▶ 56:38 #61: The Venture Capital Reset Era · More or Less Podcast
Aug 30, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Only Big Tech or crypto protocols can defend online speech
“Because I do think that in the end of the day, we're going to rely upon Facebook, Apple, and Google to defend free speech on the internet, right? Because they're the only ones powerful enough, or crypto, or it's like a crypto decentralized thing.”
Sam Lessin Aug 30, 2024 ▶ 44:09 #62: Telegram, Free Speech and Its Limits · More or Less Podcast
Sep 6, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Facebook alternated organizational structures every few years
“At Facebook when I was there, You know, we kept switching between a functional design, right, where like PMs report to PMs all the way through up, and like product groups. We say, okay, this product cluster all reports through this person. And the basic conclu…”
Sam Lessin Sep 6, 2024 ▶ 17:13 #63: 'Nasty' Founder Mode · More or Less Podcast
Sep 13, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Facebook's 2017 algorithm change destroyed digital media ad models
“Facebook just like changed the algorithm overnight in 2017 and effectively destroyed the entire media business because the, their advertising models collapsed overnight. Like they could no longer fulfill the insertion orders.”
Dave Morin Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 43:21 #64: Meta vs. Apple: the Future of Open vs. Closed Tech · More or Less Podcast
Sep 20, 2024 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: Default-private teen accounts will hurt Instagram's engagement metrics
“Changing the default is a huge deal. And I can't think of another technology company that is willingly, or perhaps under some pressure here, changed the default. It's something that actually really will, you know, influence the metrics. Perhaps damage the busi…”
Dave Morin Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 7:50 #65: Instagram, YouTube and the Kids · More or Less Podcast
Sep 20, 2024 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Apple is the haughty Harvard of tech and ignores competitors
“I think realistically, Apple is very haughty. It's kind of like the Harvard of tech companies, and if someone else does it, they're gonna do the opposite.”
Sam Lessin Sep 20, 2024 ▶ 10:16 #65: Instagram, YouTube and the Kids · More or Less Podcast
Sep 27, 2024 negative
Opinion
Lessin: Meta cannot acquire any startups due to DOJ antitrust pressure
“By the way, Meta can't acquire anything anymore anyway because of the DOJ from a, you know, antitrust perspective, regulatory perspective.”
Sam Lessin Sep 27, 2024 ▶ 30:48 #66: Meta Connect, the Hardware Renaissance (or Not?) and Special Guest Dan Feder · More or Less Podcast
Sep 27, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Startups cannot compete in AR and VR hardware due to costs
“Not anytime soon, and not for a very long time, because I think it's one of those classic things where, like, the cost of entry to play in these games is too expensive for any startup to go after.”
Sam Lessin Sep 27, 2024 ▶ 30:38 #66: Meta Connect, the Hardware Renaissance (or Not?) and Special Guest Dan Feder · More or Less Podcast
Oct 18, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Facebook built account deactivation because users repeatedly requested manual recovery
“I go back to when we didn't have the deactivate feature on Facebook, and we had to make the deactivate feature because of this problem.”
Dave Morin Oct 18, 2024 ▶ 12:03 #69: Robots, Rockets, and Elon Hype · More or Less Podcast
Oct 25, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: 2024 Makes It Hard Not to Be Bullish on Meta
“It's hard to not say that this is a year that Apple, to be less bullish on Apple, not more bullish on Apple, and shockingly more bullish on Mark and what's going on at Meta in terms of being like, oh my God, did these guys actually start producing hardware”
Sam Lessin Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 42:47 #70: Is Apple’s Vision Out of Focus? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 25, 2024 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2027
Sam Lessin: Meta Will Not Release Its Orion AR Glasses Anytime Soon
“By all accounts, I've heard Orion's amazing, but they're not going to release it any time. Like, there's no, Device coming. It's going to be a long time on the burn, and I think it's a totally different story in terms of what the progression is there.”
Sam Lessin Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 30:03 #70: Is Apple’s Vision Out of Focus? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 25, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Morin: Ray-Ban Meta is the breakout tech product of 2024
“Like, they're definitely the breakout product. I, I'll keep saying this. I think it's the breakout tech product of the year, and it's starting to show a future where what is on your face is actually a really serious platform, and I think that that's the thing …”
Dave Morin Oct 25, 2024 ▶ 33:41 #70: Is Apple’s Vision Out of Focus? · More or Less Podcast
Nov 1, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Morin: Meta's hardware strategy is identical to Comcast's living room cable box
“It's like literally no different than, it's literally no different than Comcast putting the box in your living room. That's all Meta's trying to do, right? Like, they're developing hardware to increase.”
Dave Morin Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 31:34 #71: Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution · More or Less Podcast
Nov 1, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Lessin: Regulators would lose their minds if Meta captured 3 hours daily
“If people were actually using Meta products 2:03 hours a day, regulators would lose their fucking minds.”
Sam Lessin Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 27:29 #71: Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution · More or Less Podcast
Nov 1, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Lessin: Vision Pro is the most expensive device per minute used
“I do maintain that if you want to say, Cost per minute of use that the Vision Pro is probably the most expensive device in the history of the world.”
Sam Lessin Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 9:33 #71: Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution · More or Less Podcast
Nov 1, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Brit Morin: YouTube's $50B revenue makes it bigger than Netflix's $37B
“Did you guys see that YouTube within Google's earnings is actually now is a fifty billion dollar revenue generating company, which if you don't count Meta as a media company makes YouTube kind of the number one and Netflix now is, is thirty seven billion at nu…”
Brit Morin Nov 1, 2024 ▶ 33:39 #71: Big Tech Earnings and the AI Revolution · More or Less Podcast
Nov 15, 2024 neutral
Insight
Dave Morin: LLMs must dramatically increase user interactions to build ad networks
“Like they need people interacting with it a lot more for a lot more reasons in order to build a good ad market. It's basically the identical thing we were working on at Facebook.”
Dave Morin Nov 15, 2024 ▶ 45:39 #73: Elon to Lead DOGE, Bitcoin Surges & the Trump Alliance · More or Less Podcast
Nov 15, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Dave Morin: Zuckerberg's public pop culture stunts are driven by Facebook data
“All you have to do is look at Facebook's data set to know that like these types of pop culture moves are what drives engagement, right? Like MMA drives engagement. It just elected the president, like these types of things. T-Pain is having a huge resurgence in…”
Dave Morin Nov 15, 2024 ▶ 57:32 #73: Elon to Lead DOGE, Bitcoin Surges & the Trump Alliance · More or Less Podcast
Nov 15, 2024 positive
Insight
Sam Lessin: Meta's true power comes from controlling the ad buying experience
“Why is Meta so powerful? It's as much because they own the buying experience for ads as it is because they own the engagement, right? It's very hard to break once you have it.”
Sam Lessin Nov 15, 2024 ▶ 51:55 #73: Elon to Lead DOGE, Bitcoin Surges & the Trump Alliance · More or Less Podcast
Dec 6, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Levie: FTC scrutiny is hyper-targeted at just four or five Big Tech firms
“I think if you look at the actual track record it, you know, this is probably, you know, unfortunately, a negative on, on the FTC environment, but it does seem hyper targeted at four or five companies. You know, Splunk was acquired for thirty billion dollars b…”
Aaron Levie Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 30:11 #76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 6, 2024 positive
Opinion
Levie: Restricting tech M&A halts the full cycle of innovation
“I probably favor more allowance for M&A to happen. I think there's been some kind of, you know, dubious cases around, you know, why can't iRobot get, get bought by Amazon? Why can't Facebook buy Meta, buy, buy the Giphy or whatever, the 50 person VR company? L…”
Aaron Levie Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 24:15 #76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 6, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Levie: Google is the most threatened Big Tech company by AI
“Google is, is in, you know, singularly the trickiest spot, I think of the big tech players. Cause you know, this is not particularly disruptive to Meta. It's basically all upside. It's all kind of like an adjacent side business to AWS and Amazon. It's all net …”
Aaron Levie Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 1:00:04 #76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 13, 2024 bearish
Insight
Lessin: Banning TikTok could ultimately backfire on Meta globally
“If we ban tick tock, which by the way, I've been on record for 18 months saying is a completely obvious thing to do. The one on one version is that's good for same. Dave Morin: Couldn't agree more. Sam Lessin: The one on one version is good for Facebook becaus…”
Sam Lessin Dec 13, 2024 ▶ 39:26 #77: Sora Reveal, Google's AI Agents and Digital Trade Under Trump · More or Less Podcast
Dec 20, 2024 bullish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta has the clearest positive asymmetry on AI
“Clearest asymmetry to the positive on AI. Not even close.”
Sam Lessin Dec 20, 2024 ▶ 42:18 #78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions · More or Less Podcast
Dec 20, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta is not an AI leader and nobody uses its products
“Meta, like, you know, I think it's actually pretty hard to say that Meta is a AI leader. Nobody's using the AI products that Meta is shipping. Like, they are not used they are using AI infrastructure to deliver their advertising business.”
Dave Morin Dec 20, 2024 ▶ 50:16 #78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions · More or Less Podcast
Dec 27, 2024 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levie: Companies will blow billions training models instantly supplanted by Meta's Llama
“There'll be lots of companies that just blow billions of dollars doing, you know, training runs of a model that get, you know, supplanted instantly by Lama.”
Aaron Levie Dec 27, 2024 ▶ 1:13:45 #79: The More or Less Holiday Special Pt. 1 (AI Highlights) · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 positive
Opinion
Lessin: Meta rolling back moderation is a 'costless' political concession
“Do you throw Trump and Elon a bone? Like it's kind of costless to do so. So why not?”
Sam Lessin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 24:12 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Meta community moderation is unlikely to work well
“Like I just find it implausible that this is going to work well. And I know that, you know, even if one percent of content gets falsely moderated by all these systems that were set up, I'm not sure that the community moderation is going to prove to be much bet…”
Brit Morin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 14:51 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 neutral
What-if
Sam Lessin: Meta moderation overhaul would not happen under Harris
“No, because you wouldn't have had the opening to it, but it's not, that, that, a hundred percent not, right?”
Sam Lessin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 13:52 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025
Insight
Lessin: Unmoderated platforms make real identity and trust networks the only solution
“If you don't moderate, you put more and more pressure on having real identity in a way that can be like, oh, that's this person. And like, I trust this person. Networks of trust. Like, that's the only solution.”
Sam Lessin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 26:58 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Centralized social network fact-checking is impossible at scale and dangerous
“The idea that a centralized platform, a centralized social network, Would be in the business of fact checking was always one of the most dangerous and worst ideas imaginable. And I was very unhappy when the company went in that direction over time because it's…”
Sam Lessin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 11:38 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Zuckerberg's moderation shift returns to early Facebook values
“I think Mark's taking the opportunity here to return to his original values to some extent.”
Dave Morin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 15:19 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 positive
Opinion
Lessin: Meta's rollback of content moderation is fundamentally the right decision
“I actually think from a first principles perspective, this is the right thing to do, and it has been for a long time. It was a mistake to go down moderation in the first place. And this is an incredibly opportunistic moment where, oh my God, it's actually poss…”
Sam Lessin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 13:10 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 10, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Lessin: Meta, Amazon, Apple, and Musk are aligning with Trump
“Clearly Meta and Amazon and Apple, to a lesser degree, Google, Definitely Empire Elon are all quite in alignment with Trump, right? And I think, like, have decided to really, like, lean in in every way to this administration from, like, you know, the money the…”
Jessica Lessin Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 19:36 #81: Meta's Community Notes: More Speech and Fewer Mistakes? · More or Less Podcast
Jan 17, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: US TikTok Ban Will Prompt Foreign Countries to Ban Facebook
“I think it's pretty reasonable that some countries turn around and say, well, wait a minute. You guys don't want TikTok. We don't want Facebook. That's an American thing, right?”
Sam Lessin Jan 17, 2025 ▶ 29:44 #82: TikTok, Trade Wars & Tech 2.0 · More or Less Podcast
Jan 17, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: A TikTok ban may not be good for Meta long-term
“I'm still not convinced that it's actually good for Meta long term for this to happen, but short term, you clearly remove a lot of ad dollars.”
Sam Lessin Jan 17, 2025 ▶ 28:48 #82: TikTok, Trade Wars & Tech 2.0 · More or Less Podcast
Jan 31, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Morin: DeepSeek validates Meta's open-source strategy by feeding advances back
“This DeepSeek thing is exactly what we were talking about, that by releasing Llama, you know, DeepSeek surely used it, and many others, sounds like, and the fruits of that win come back to Meta, like, overnight, right? And they can plug it back in and make mor…”
Dave Morin Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 51:49 #84: China's DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World · More or Less Podcast
Jan 31, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta is in a perfectly hedged win-win position in AI
“For me, the meta story is it's like in the perfect position. They have no liability around this stuff because they're not Google. They have no search business. Like they don't like, they have the perfect use case for AI, right? Which is Optimizing ads and atte…”
Sam Lessin Jan 31, 2025 ▶ 50:37 #84: China's DeepSeek Shakes the Tech World · More or Less Podcast
Feb 21, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Sam Lessin: Meta Engineered Smart Glasses to Brick If Recording LED Disabled
“They spent so much time trying to figure out how to engineer it so that it would brick it if you try to disable that LED for exactly that reason. Like it's a wild, the amount of engineering that went into that, like, make sure the LED cannot be disabled for ex…”
Sam Lessin Feb 21, 2025 ▶ 54:50 #87: SKIMS To Revive Nike? AI Drama & The Satoshi Mystery · More or Less Podcast
Feb 21, 2025 bullish
Assertion Partly supported
Brit Morin: Meta Sells Two Million Smart Glasses, Ramping to Ten Million
“News of the week also, and a tangent is that Meta has now sold two million smart glasses and they're ramping up their production to push ten million this year.”
Brit Morin Feb 21, 2025 ▶ 53:31 #87: SKIMS To Revive Nike? AI Drama & The Satoshi Mystery · More or Less Podcast
Feb 28, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Trump unlikely to pursue big tech breakups in near term
“I mean, did you look at the inauguration? These guys are now bending the knee to Trump, right? So, I don't see him playing hardball in the near term.”
Brit Morin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 33:38 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Feb 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Meta Is Considering Launching a Standalone Reels App to Fight TikTok
“Meta is considering launching a standalone reels app, so that would be taking video only out of Instagram to go a little more head to head with TikTok.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 26:08 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Feb 28, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Big Tech Wins AI if Scaling Simply Requires Infinite Spend
“If you believe that it's just a matter of dollars in to get it, then I'd actually be very bullish on like the metas and the biggest companies in the world because they're the ones who can spend infinitely.”
Sam Lessin Feb 28, 2025 ▶ 47:52 #88: Meta’s $200B AI Bet, Instagram Reels & The Future of Content · More or Less Podcast
Mar 14, 2025 negative
Opinion
Morin: TikTok's fate is irrelevant because Meta already cloned its algorithms
“Meta's algorithms have basically become tech talks algorithms. So tech talk has accomplished the mission and it doesn't matter if it exists anymore.”
Dave Morin Mar 14, 2025 ▶ 25:43 #90: Silicon Valley Unscripted: Billionaires, AI, and Interplanetary Exploration · More or Less Podcast
Mar 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin: Meta CMO temporarily relocated to D.C. for antitrust trial testimony
“We published a story recently about that sort of got some documents on the number of hours all the meta executives are expected to testify in the upcoming trial, and the CMO is temporarily moving to DC because of it”
Jessica Lessin Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 41:03 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Apr 4, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Brit Morin: Zuckerberg uses Meta control to pursue personal MMA interests
“I think it's just, like, in some ways cool that Zuck still has enough control of the company to, like, make shit happen like this, which clearly, like, is mostly just in his interests.”
Brit Morin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 50:31 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
Apr 4, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: Willingness to pay guarantees OpenAI a massive long-term business
“The willingness to pay for this thing, provided they keep executing, like Facebook was executing in the same period of growth means that they will build a big, big business over the long term.”
Dave Morin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 44:19 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
Apr 4, 2025 bearish
Insight
Lessin: Ex-Facebook executives join OpenAI chasing growth highs, not business quality
“So there's a pattern matching of all these exacts informed people going over there, which has absolutely nothing to do with like actually the quality of the business. Right. But it's purely about chasing that experience again at all costs, which is why you see…”
Sam Lessin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 29:21 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
Apr 4, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Lessin: Unlike AI, Facebook was massively profitable from its early days
“Facebook was massively profitable. From the early days, it was always almost zero cost from a user perspective. It was a great business from the very early days.”
Sam Lessin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 30:03 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
Apr 25, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Big tech antitrust trials will have no real impact
“I really doubt that any of this will have any real impact. What will ultimately happen is the technology winds will change, and just like United Fruit, it'll eventually kind of unravel.”
Sam Lessin Apr 25, 2025 ▶ 19:57 Google & Meta Trials, AI’s Media Collapse & Elon’s Tesla Comeback · More or Less Podcast
Apr 25, 2025
Assertion Supported
Brit Morin: Google and Meta dominate a $740 billion ad market
“I mean, it's literally like the global digital ad spend, Google and Meta dominate, right? And that's like a seven hundred and forty billion dollar market.”
Brit Morin Apr 25, 2025 ▶ 11:38 Google & Meta Trials, AI’s Media Collapse & Elon’s Tesla Comeback · More or Less Podcast
May 2, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta flipped its Ray-Ban companion app into an AI chatbot
“What they did is they took the vision app, they renamed it, they threw a gatekeeper up and flipped it into the chat app. And then it also has the connected glasses in it as in the background.”
Sam Lessin May 2, 2025 ▶ 11:40 How OpenAI Is Beating Google and Meta at Their Own Game · More or Less Podcast
May 30, 2025 negative
Opinion
Morin: Parental controls on major platforms are rife with dark patterns
“The fact that, like, these parental controls are all rife with dark patterns to me is, like, an actual crime, and that you should be able to actually control these things and protect kids from them, but most of them you cannot.”
Dave Morin May 30, 2025 ▶ 17:35 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
May 30, 2025 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: OS is the obvious place for age enforcement, not apps
“Obviously the OS is the place to do this enforcement. If you care about it, it's one of those things. I've always found it fascinating that Apple and the community was able to like, put the blank, put the finger on Facebook or Google or Snapchat or whatever, w…”
Sam Lessin May 30, 2025 ▶ 16:11 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
May 30, 2025 neutral
Insight
Sam Lessin: The internet pulls everything toward entertainment over identity
“One is between like engagement and the, on the engagement side, just for pure entertainment, you don't care what's real, right? Versus truth and information where the network and who's saying things and sources really matter. And it just turns out the internet…”
Sam Lessin May 30, 2025 ▶ 23:39 #101: The Business of OnlyFans, Future of Identity, and Navigating Privacy in the AI Age · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Alexandr Wang landed a huge early Facebook deal via BD
“And so, he got an enormous Facebook, like, content moderation-y, label-y type deal super early that no one thought he was gonna get just by working the BD.”
Sam Lessin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 37:34 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 negative
Opinion
Morin: Meta structured its 49% Scale AI stake to avoid FTC scrutiny
“So technically an avoidance of the FTC stake.”
Dave Morin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 40:17 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 13, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta is taking a $14.8B, 49% stake in Scale AI
“The information the next day had all the details of the 14.8 billion, the 49% ownership stake, and that Alexander Wang, the CEO of Scale.ai, Is now running a meta super intelligence lab.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 13, 2025 ▶ 32:53 #103: Are Silicon Valley’s Mega-Deals Just Talent Grabs? · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Morin: Brands Must Shift Strategy as AI Commoditizes Digital Ads
“I think like brands are gonna have to shift so dramatically to doing other things because ads are gonna be commoditized.”
Brit Morin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 11:44 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta has virtually shipped no AI products
“Meta's effectively not shipped good fundamental products, and they have not shipped, I mean, they virtually shipped no AI products.”
Dave Morin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 10:55 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Jun 20, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Meta is in talks to partially buy out Nat Friedman's NFDG
“As part of those talks, Meta's in discussions about partially buying out NFDG, the person said. And NFDG is a billion dollar AUM firm.”
Brit Morin Jun 20, 2025 ▶ 14:48 #104: AI Clones, Commoditized Ads, and the Cult of Trust · More or Less Podcast
Jul 4, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Jessica Lessin: Apple is not yet in the frontier AI league
“Apple is not in this league yet. They're doing cool things in AI in different areas, but, like, they're not-”
Jessica Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 39:42 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Jul 4, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: OpenAI issued an internal panic memo over Meta poaching talent
“Then this memo came out of OpenAI saying, like, our house has been raided. We have to reconsider all these things. I also hear they have a week-long vacation this week, pre-planned at OpenAI.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 4, 2025 ▶ 41:15 #106: AI Researchers Earning More Than Cristiano Ronaldo · More or Less Podcast
Jul 18, 2025 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta lacks a consumer AI product to compete with ChatGPT
“I think that's the real question here is that can they build a product that can compete? Cause right now they don't have one. And so they have to figure out how to use yesterday's ad dollars to fund the creation of a new product.”
Dave Morin Jul 18, 2025 ▶ 46:19 #108 Meta vs. OpenAI: Who Wins the Next Attention War? · More or Less Podcast
Jul 18, 2025 bearish
Insight
Sam Lessin: Advertising profits come from demand creation, not search fulfillment
“The money is made on the like, oh shit, you want some like, you convincing someone they want something. Right? Putting something they didn't know they want in front of them, right? And so I think this is, like, the big thing is, like, I'm not saying these thin…”
Sam Lessin Jul 18, 2025 ▶ 44:05 #108 Meta vs. OpenAI: Who Wins the Next Attention War? · More or Less Podcast
Jul 25, 2025 positive
Opinion
Sam Lessin: AI threatens Google's core business, but not Apple's
“His core business isn't threatened. Like, Google has to put chips down because, like, their core business is, like, too threatened. Meta has to put chips down, one, because Mark is just, like, hyper-competitive and cares about this. And because, like, they hav…”
Sam Lessin Jul 25, 2025 ▶ 35:26 #109 OpenAI vs Google: The Real Business Model War Begins · More or Less Podcast
Jul 25, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: Google and Meta will beat OpenAI using their cash engines
“And like, that's why I think ultimately, like, the people like Google and Facebook do win, because like, they have a money making machine that regenerates the money. And so the money is free for them. Whereas like, if you're open AI, and you have to raise it, …”
Sam Lessin Jul 25, 2025 ▶ 17:23 #109 OpenAI vs Google: The Real Business Model War Begins · More or Less Podcast
Aug 1, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin says individual AI researchers are receiving billion-dollar compensation packages
“The thing that's interesting, I think, in this moment is we basically see people for the first time ever on pace to earn a billion dollars, right? And actually be paid it in like the board and shareholders approved paying you a billion dollars as an employee, …”
Sam Lessin Aug 1, 2025 ▶ 22:35 #110 Meta's Billion-Dollar Hires: Bubble or Genius? · More or Less Podcast
Aug 1, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin predicts AI talent compensation will normalize like iOS developers
“I generally think like what Dave said, that it's much more likely this is just like the iOS displacement over again. And like the next generation of comp gets way more reasonable again.”
Sam Lessin Aug 1, 2025 ▶ 39:37 #110 Meta's Billion-Dollar Hires: Bubble or Genius? · More or Less Podcast
Aug 1, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin claims Meta has absolutely no consumer AI product
“Meta has no AI product. There's literally no product. Like none of us on this, none of us here use a Meta AI product. Like they're, the product literally doesn't exist.”
Dave Morin Aug 1, 2025 ▶ 24:49 #110 Meta's Billion-Dollar Hires: Bubble or Genius? · More or Less Podcast
Aug 1, 2025 bullish
Assertion Contradicted
Sam Lessin: Meta added an OpenAI-sized market cap in five post-market minutes
“Meta just added an OpenAI in five minutes to their market cap after the market close, so I don't know how that's going to blow out for anyone.”
Sam Lessin Aug 1, 2025 ▶ 21:17 #110 Meta's Billion-Dollar Hires: Bubble or Genius? · More or Less Podcast
Aug 29, 2025 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta CMO Alex Schultz is the smartest growth marketer ever
“He's easily the smartest growth marketing person, like maybe of all time. Like he is the true source of truth for what growth marketing became in Silicon Valley.”
Dave Morin Aug 29, 2025 ▶ 47:47 #114 Seed Rounds at $2B? The Dangers of AI Hype in VC With Tony Conrad · More or Less Podcast
Sep 6, 2025 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2028
Brit Morin: Meta and Apple Will Use AI Defense in Antitrust Battles
“That makes a lot of sense, but now it feels like everyone's going to use that. Meta's going to use that. Apple's going to use that.”
Brit Morin Sep 6, 2025 ▶ 14:13 #115 Anthropic at $170B: Should Unicorns Be Forced to IPO? · More or Less Podcast
Sep 19, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Sam Lessin: Meta's New AR Glasses Feature Wristband Input and HUD
“It has a heads-up display that works, so you can, like, use apps inside the glasses, you know, you can you can text and, like, write messages using the screen and, like, the wristband in the headset.”
Sam Lessin Sep 19, 2025 ▶ 36:34 #117 TikTok’s New Owner and Hiring a US CEO? · More or Less Podcast
Oct 10, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Sam Lessin: Facebook Sold Logged-Out Homepage Ads Pre-IPO to Boost Revenue
“I remember the era right, right before going public when Facebook was selling a logged out page to try to make money, so I don't want to be too high and mighty about that, but yes.”
Sam Lessin Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 50:31 Oracle's GPU Margins, OpenAI’s Consumer Playbook, and the Ads vs Commerce Endgame · More or Less Podcast
Oct 10, 2025 negative
Insight
Dave Morin: Facebook Knew It Beat MySpace When MySpace Sold Homepage Takeovers
“When we were building Facebook in the 2000, we knew we had beaten MySpace when they started selling the homepage to the Hulk movie, and the Hulk started, the Hulk, like, punched through the MySpace homepage.”
Dave Morin Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 50:16 Oracle's GPU Margins, OpenAI’s Consumer Playbook, and the Ads vs Commerce Endgame · More or Less Podcast
Oct 10, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Morin: Top hyperscalers projected to spend $400B this year
“And the Meg seven, not Apple, but the rest of them met a Google, Amazon, et cetera, are projected to spend about four hundred billion this year.”
Dave Morin Oct 10, 2025 ▶ 23:37 Oracle's GPU Margins, OpenAI’s Consumer Playbook, and the Ads vs Commerce Endgame · More or Less Podcast
Oct 24, 2025 neutral
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Meta Can Absorb AI Capex Failure; OpenAI and NVIDIA Cannot
“Like, I'd argue the cost for meta of belief isn't that high. No one really cares. They can fork over a few years of cash flow, right? Like, investors will look the other way. They'll kind of be like an Oculus. They'll be mad for a minute, but get over it, righ…”
Sam Lessin Oct 24, 2025 ▶ 26:46 TPUs Are Winning? Gemini + Anthropic vs NVIDIA, and OpenAI’s Atlas Explained · More or Less Podcast
Nov 7, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin says Apple spends only 10-20% of operating cash on AI
“They've shown only an appetite to invest something like 10, maybe 20% of their operating cash flow in AI infrastructure. They're not willing to spend 70, 80% like Meta or Amazon or Microsoft.”
Dave Morin Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 18:44 Apple Chooses Gemini, Sequoia's Leadership Shake-up, and Meme Coins · More or Less Podcast
Nov 14, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: Consumers will not want smart displays over their eyes constantly
“I just still don't believe people are gonna want something in front of their eyes. Most of the day.”
Brit Morin Nov 14, 2025 ▶ 19:00 Apple’s iPhone Sock, Waymo's Bay Area Expansion, and AI Wearables · More or Less Podcast
Nov 21, 2025 negative
Opinion
Morin: Shocking Meta did not introduce AI group chats before OpenAI
“And I kind of look at this and I'm like, I think I said this on a previous pod that like this was by far the most obvious thing to do in social with AI. And it's like absolutely shocking to me that Meta did not do this first because it's like really, really ob…”
Dave Morin Nov 21, 2025 ▶ 18:00 Google Just Won AI, TikTok’s “Self-Control Badges”, ChatGPT Enters Group Chats · More or Less Podcast
Nov 28, 2025 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Unlike rivals, Meta AI has zero personal context about individual users
“If you go ask all, all the four main systems, or five, the same question, the context is wildly different. Meta knows literally nothing. Like, they don't have any contextually relevant information about you.”
Dave Morin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 42:55 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
Nov 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jessica Lessin: Meta is in serious talks to buy Google TPUs
“One, Meta is considering, and in very serious talks, over a billions of dollars, spending billions of dollars on TPUs in a future deal”
Jessica Lessin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 25:31 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
Nov 28, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Lessin: Meta is the easiest AI investment because it lacks downside
“I've always said that if you want to invest in the AI narrative, the easiest bet in the world is meta, because it's all upside, no downside. I stand by that. You know, I think that's continue to continue to be the case. And like, that doesn't even matter if th…”
Sam Lessin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 34:48 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
Dec 5, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Brit Morin: Apple design lead Alan Dye is leaving to join Meta
“Alan Dye, Apple's design lead. Is leaving the company and joining Meta.”
Brit Morin Dec 5, 2025 ▶ 21:57 Code Red, Bitcoin Costs, AWS Resurgence, and Waymo Safety (Not About AI... ish) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 5, 2025 neutral
Prediction Held up
Lessin: Instagram will be the only Meta division working in-office full-time
“I think they'll be the only division.”
Jessica Lessin Dec 5, 2025 ▶ 21:41 Code Red, Bitcoin Costs, AWS Resurgence, and Waymo Safety (Not About AI... ish) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 5, 2025 positive
Opinion
Dave Morin: Meta hired Apple's Alan Dye to design its smart glasses
“And so the reporting to Boz, I would bet, you know, working on the metaglasses, I think that's the strategic move here.”
Dave Morin Dec 5, 2025 ▶ 23:16 Code Red, Bitcoin Costs, AWS Resurgence, and Waymo Safety (Not About AI... ish) · More or Less Podcast
Dec 19, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: The AI ad boom will turn on big time and accrue to Meta
“I think the ads, AI ad story is going to turn on big time this upcoming year. Huge time. I'm seeing all these startups in the space doing like insane revenue growth. And like, I just think that ultimately all accrues back to Meta.”
Sam Lessin Dec 19, 2025 ▶ 38:10 Hype vs Reality: Our 2026 Predictions for Tech, Media, and Culture · More or Less Podcast
Feb 20, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
The Information: Meta Resumes Plans to Develop a Smartwatch
“Information reported today that Meta's smartwatch plans are back on, so we can do a wonderful poll about who is going to buy a Meta smartwatch, considering I still don't have any smartwatches.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 1:34 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Feb 20, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Lessin: Meta glasses team wants feminine styles but faces hardware constraints
“Well, I, I've had conversations with the team working on the glasses about, like, more feminine form factors and styles. I think they're working. They want to just have a broader range. The electronics, though, are the size they are.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 16:40 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Feb 20, 2026 negative
Opinion
Britt Morin: Meta will not design an attractive smartwatch for women
“With their Meta glasses. Are they really going to design a cute wash for women? No. Like, so maybe in the future, once they actually design something relevant for me.”
Brit Morin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 16:27 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Mar 20, 2026 negative
Assertion Contradicted
Lessin: Meta has shut down Horizon Worlds
“Horizon Worlds has been shut down too.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 20, 2026 ▶ 31:28 Nvidia’s GTC Was “Taylor Swift for Straight Men” (Apple, OpenAI, and OpenClaw News) · More or Less Podcast
Mar 20, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Rogue AI agent triggered major security alert at Meta
“A rogue AI agent triggered a major security alert at Meta by taking action without approval that led to exposure of sensitive information and user data to Meta employees who could not authorize it.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 20, 2026 ▶ 30:15 Nvidia’s GTC Was “Taylor Swift for Straight Men” (Apple, OpenAI, and OpenClaw News) · More or Less Podcast
Apr 17, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Uber and Meta rank engineers by token usage leaderboards
“Uber and Meta are actually doing on leaderboards right now in their engineering departments.”
Brit Morin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 30:16 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Apr 24, 2026 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Meta is tracking all employee computer activity and keystrokes
“Meta now tracking everything its employees do and all the keystrokes that they do on their computers.”
Brit Morin Apr 24, 2026 ▶ 40:11 What Tim Cook’s “Executive Chairman” Move Really Means | Musk vs OpenAI, xAI and Cursor Rumors
May 1, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Jessica Lessin reports Meta's Manus acquisition was unwound after Chinese government intervention
“And of course they interfered and they did quick soon after in terms of sort of challenging the deal, calling back some of the key team to China. So they were in clear integration limbo, and now the deal is off, and they're sort of unwinding it, but.”
Jessica Lessin May 1, 2026 ▶ 36:43 Elon Musk vs OpenAI Trial, Google Cloud Surge, Meta’s Blocked Acquisition, Anthropic Winning · More or Less Podcast
May 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Morin: Meta Has an OpenClaw Fork for Personal Agents
“We've been aware for some time that they have a fork of OpenClaw and, you know, we expect they'll do something pretty big.”
Dave Morin May 8, 2026 ▶ 49:53 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
May 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta signaled more layoffs by admitting unknown optimal company size
“Meta had recent layoffs and came out and said, we can't confirm that there won't be more, and we don't actually know the optimal size of this company.”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 23:18 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Dave Morin: xAI and Meta Models Do Not Perform at the Highest Level
“I mean, just like, I don't think you can say it about XAI or Meta, because both XAI and Meta, despite the fact that their models are not performing at the highest level, they at least produced them, right?”
Dave Morin May 15, 2026 ▶ 38:37 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
May 15, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta has been logging employee keystrokes to train internal AI
“This is a little bit old, but Meta has been keystroke logging employees to train AI, their AI, not so popular.”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 23:27 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
Jun 19, 2026 negative
Opinion
Mark Zuckerberg's AI vision lacks the crispness of Facebook's original mission
“Look, and I say this as a huge, enormous fan of his and believer in him and, like, the whole thing. I just, it's not as crisp as make the world more open and connected.”
Sam Lessin Jun 19, 2026 ▶ 32:52 SpaceX Hit $2.5 Trillion. Now Watch What Elon Buys Next. · More or Less Podcast
Jun 26, 2026 negative
Insight
Sam Lessin: Prediction markets must use real money to matter
“Well, we've talked about this like six times, and it has to be real money. It's not a thing if it's not real money.”
Sam Lessin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 4:28 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jun 26, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lessin: Highly unlikely a big platform successfully launches prediction markets
“I agree that it's extremely unlikely that a enormous company platform will successfully launch something as avant-garde as a, it's not impossible, but very unlikely.”
Sam Lessin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 17:19 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jun 26, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Latest Meta smart glasses are a watershed moment for female buyers
“Finally, this is the watershed moment of women buying smart glasses. Mark my words. Saying it now. That's all. So yes, I do think it was a big deal.”
Brit Morin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 8:54 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jun 26, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Morin: Meta's new glasses are still manufactured in Luxottica factories
“It's all Luxottica, right? Luxottica owns Ray-Ban. They just made their own label. Right? So it's all the same, same. It's just that they've got their own label now, but they're manufacturing it in the exact same factories.”
Dave Morin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 5:17 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jun 26, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Britt Morin: Prediction markets will succeed with women if built into Instagram
“I actually think it's going to hit on with Meta if they do this and they build it into things like Instagram, because I think these things are already at large scale.”
Brit Morin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 19:55 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Morin: Facebook considered entering the cloud business in 2007
“We actually considered being in the cloud business back when we launched Facebook platform in oh seven.”
Dave Morin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 34:54 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Jul 10, 2026 negative
Opinion
Lessin: Anthropic is winning the AI race, not OpenAI
“He's not a real company like Google or Open or Meta or someone who actually five percent is meaningful, and he's not even winning the pure AI race. It's an anthropic is.”
Sam Lessin Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 8:35 AI Frontier Lab Is Essentially Doomed | Open AI Offered U.S. Equity, Xbox Is In Trouble, Post-AGI · More or Less Podcast
Jul 31, 2026 positive
Opinion
Lessin: Zuckerberg Uniquely Positioned to Sell AI's Optimistic Vision
“Mark is one of the rare leaders that actually is in a position as a founder at a trillion dollar scale, who already has all the people on his platform who can try to tell the light side of the story”
Sam Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 13:40 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Jul 31, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Lessin: Meta's AI Infrastructure Is an Aircraft Carrier, Not a Miata
“No, I mean, they spend so much, they have so much infrastructure, it's like the, it's the opposite of a Miata. You can't spend a hundred billion dollars on a Miata. It's like a battle. It's like an aircraft carrier.”
Sam Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 8:37 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Jul 31, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta's Earnings Disappointment Caused by Legal and Severance Costs
“Meta reported earnings that were disappointing, but mostly because they spent a lot of money in lawsuits and laying people off severance, so.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 27:18 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
Aug 14, 2026
Disclosure
Lessin repeatedly pitched that Facebook should acquire the DMV
“Peter, we used to have meetings for what we should buy, and my pitch was always that the Facebook should buy the DMV.”
Sam Lessin Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 20:56 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Aug 14, 2026 bearish
Insight
Wolfe: AI infrastructure debt has a dangerous duration mismatch
“And then you have like duration mismatch between like the hard assets and the financing. So like the chip, depending if you look at meta or Amazon debate, whether it's a three year or five year depreciation, but it's, you know, called three, the debt, Amortize…”
Josh Wolfe Aug 14, 2026 ▶ 31:36 Special Edition MOL with Josh Wolfe, Rachel Holt, Scott Belsky, Scott Stanford, and Peter Deng. · More or Less Podcast
Aug 21, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Meta will never be good at producing hardware
“It's kind of like Meta trying to get into hardware. Like they're just never going to be good at hardware.”
Dave Morin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 27:19 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
Apple easily deflects child safety and age verification blame onto Meta
“On the kids stuff, they get to blame. I mean, the stuff like the, like, age verification stuff will be It's so easy for them to do, but somehow it's Facebook's problem. Like, they're pretty good at pushing off blame to others.”
Sam Lessin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 35:25 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
Morin: Meta's algorithms intentionally addict users to engagement feedback loops
“Meta systems are optimized for engagement. They addict you to the feedback loop in the algorithm.”
Dave Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 9:18 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
Sam Lessin: Tech settlements only benefit lawyers and political AGs
“The only one who does well in the theater are the lawyers Who make a bunch of money on it, and like you get some AGs who get to say, I signed on to a thing, and like we won, and so everyone needs to be able to say they won.”
Sam Lessin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 29:14 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin calls Meta's $17 billion multi-state settlement a nothing burger
“It seems like a nothing burger to me. The amount of money is de minimis. Doesn't matter.”
Dave Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 8:38 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 negative
Insight
Parents have no chance competing against big tech's massive cloud compute infrastructure
“These clouds, I mean, I don't think Meta publishes it or Google publishes it, but my guess is that it's around ten million computers in like these clouds globally, if not tens of millions, and no one brain has any chance. Parents have absolutely no chance. And…”
Dave Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 27:20 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Brit Morin: Meta's settlement is structured over 10 years at $1.7B annually
“Also, it's over 10 years. So that it's like 1.7 billion a year, which is nothing.”
Brit Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 9:45 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
Dave Morin: YouTube is a far more egregious offender than Meta
“Just to throw it out there, YouTube is a way worse, way more egregious offender.”
Dave Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 15:50 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Aug 28, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Meta's settlement drops teen daily limit to one hour if competitors agree
“For that two hour time limit, it will be reduced to a one hour daily limit if TikTok, Snap, and YouTube also agree.”
Brit Morin Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 12:14 Meta’s $17B Reckoning & Why Parents Can’t Compete With Big Tech's Algorithm · More or Less Podcast
Sep 4, 2026 bullish
Assertion Supported
Lessin: Meta is switching to Slack over Google for AI agents
“But Meta is moving to it because it thinks it's better than Google for agents.”
Jessica Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 26:46 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
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