scaling laws
also referred to as: scaling law
10 statements across 9 episodes · 7 bullish · 1 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement Mar 14, 2024 by Mikey Shulman · across every show →
Everything said about scaling laws, oldest first
Mar 14, 2024
Jun 25, 2024 positive
Albrecht: Cost-aware tuning reveals scaling laws for all hyperparameters
“So by doing that, we can see the scaling laws or not just, you know, the scaling laws from like the, you know, chinchilla paper, the scaling laws for all parameters. We can see how does the number of layers change with this? How does the You know, the learning…”
Jan 1, 2025
Swyx: Inference compute optimality creates different scaling laws than Chinchilla
“Chinchilla paper is compute optimal training, but what is not stated in there is it's pre-trained compute optimal training. And once you start caring about inference, compute optimal training, you have a different scaling law and in a way that we did not know …”
Aug 29, 2025 negative
Morcos: Kaplan and Chinchilla scaling laws incorrectly assume all data is equal
“And even if you go and you look at the scaling laws work from Kaplan and Chinchilla and all these other things, they all assume IID data which is insane. We know that all data are not created equal, that garbage in garbage out is like the oldest adage in compu…”
Aug 29, 2025 positive
Feb 19, 2026 bullish
Wang: AI uniquely translates R&D capital directly into capability and demand
“This is probably also a unique time in that for the first time you can actually trace dollars to outcomes, right? Provided that scaling laws are holding and capabilities are actually moving forward. Because if you can put translate dollars into capabilities ca…”
May 27, 2026 bullish
Jun 25, 2026 bullish
Mark Chen: AI scaling laws will continue to hold
“And so I think it's just more and more of the same, right? Like more careful research engineering, more careful data engineering, more careful scaling, and it always unlocks that next ability to scale further. So I mean, it's held for You know, almost 10 order…”
Jul 22, 2026 positive
Kant: Sourced failed because they did not scale up code models
“And what we missed throughout that entire journey that we were on the right track, but we should have just kept scaling up. And today to all of us, the scaling laws and scaling up seems like the most obvious thing, but having spent four or five years of my lif…”
Aug 21, 2026 bullish
Park: Simile observes empirical scaling laws when modeling human behavior
“What we are seeing is at Simile, so we do post-train our own model. The thing that we're actually seeing is the early glimpse of scaling law in simulations. The more data about humans and more compute you ingest, you actually start to get predictive and predic…”