open source models
also referred to as: open-source models
23 statements across 17 episodes · 13 bullish · 3 bearish · 18 people on the record · first statement Aug 31, 2023 by Eugene Cheah · across every show →
Everything said about open source models, oldest first
Aug 31, 2023 positive
GPT-NeoX Documentation Became Reference Notes for Subsequent Open-Source LLMs
“GPT Neo X was that it was one of the major models that had everything fully documented and they like, why they make this change in the architecture and so on and so forth. And that became like Basically reference notes for all other subsequent open source mode…”
Aug 31, 2023 negative
Dec 17, 2023 bullish
Mar 6, 2024
Chintala: Childhood trust in institutions determines views on open AI safety
“And this might be a little controversial, but like, I find a lot of arguments, ah, based on whether, like, closed source models are safer, or open source models are safer, very much related to whether, what kind of cultural, ah, culture they grew up in, what k…”
Mar 6, 2024 bullish
Chintala: Aggregate open source AI model usage rivals GPT
“Maybe open source models are being as used as GPT is at this point in, like, all kinds of, in a very fragmented way. Like, in aggregate, all the open source models together are probably being used as much as GPT is. Maybe, you know, close to that.”
Mar 6, 2024 bearish
Mar 6, 2024 bullish
Chintala: Centralized feedback could trigger open source runaway over OpenAI
“If that central sinkhole is there, who's gonna go coordinate all of this integration across all of these, like, open source frontends? But I think if we do that, if that actually happens, I think that probably has a real chance of the open source models having…”
Apr 11, 2024 neutral
Stuhlmüller: Closed-source models consume most of Elicit's compute budget
“I'd say, like, in terms of number of careers, it's maybe similar. In terms of, like, cost and compute, I think the closed models make, make up more of the budget, since the main cases where you want to use closed models are cases where they're just smarter, wh…”
Jun 25, 2024 neutral
Frankle: Releasing Open-Source Models Is Not Databricks' Core Bread and Butter
“Releasing models open source is not our day-to-day bread and butter. It's kind of a fun reward that we get to do sometimes when we have something really cool to share and a little bit of time and spare GPUs in our hands. But for the most part, everything is go…”
Oct 11, 2024 bearish
Jul 28, 2025 positive
Mohan: Codeium bootstrapped with open-source models before training custom FIM models
“Early on, we were able to leverage open source models, sort of bootstrap it internally within our company. But then to ship, we finally had some requirements like, Hey, we want this model to have fill in the middle capabilities and a bunch of other things. And…”
Aug 15, 2025 positive
Brockman: Open-source AI creates tech stack dependency beneficial to OpenAI and the US
“Another thing at a very practical level that we've thought about with open source models is that people building on our open source model are kind of building on our tech stack, right? If you are relying on us to help improve the model that you're relying on u…”
Sep 25, 2025 positive
Oct 1, 2025 neutral
Enterprises retrain 10B-30B open models from scratch for legal data compliance
“We see at the large enterprise level, particularly those who have large data assets, a desire to train their own models and to go a little smaller, say in the 10 to thirty billion parameter category. I think especially the very large companies, enterprises hav…”
Oct 1, 2025 bullish
Feldman: AI startups are replacing closed-source models with fine-tuned open-source
“I think for sort of AI companies like Cognition, like all your competitors, like AlphaSense, like dozens of others, they are trying to replace closed source models with very, very fast open source models, and they're trying to drive the open source Accuracy dr…”
Oct 16, 2025 bullish
Swix: Open-source token generation share will rise but stay well below 50%
“I think it's going to go up because of the amount of enterprise adoption of open models that I'm seeing.
And also there's a lot of demand.
Like there's the enterprises would much rather be on open models if they actually could get the performance they're loo…”
Oct 16, 2025 neutral
Nov 22, 2025 bullish
Wagner: Fine-tuned open-source models can beat frontier models on quality
“I think you're now with, you know, we'll be seeing the trend going also with the coding agents, you know, fine-tuning open source models and like way faster as a result and more accurate. You can actually beat frontier models on quality that way.”
Jan 9, 2026 positive
Frontier models are cheaper for agentic tasks because they require fewer turns
“Interestingly, in Tau Tau Two Bench Telecom, it's cheaper to run, you know, on a per token basis, more expensive models, like a GBD five, compared to some smaller open source models, because the some of the GBD five, for instance got to the answer faster. And …”
May 2, 2026 neutral
Open-source AI demand spiked on hype before reverting to frontier labs
“Like all the open source models, I think what happened was they got like very hyped and people were very interested in using them. But I think like over time, like there was a spike in usage for these models. And then it goes back to open AI, Anthropic and Goo…”
May 18, 2026 neutral
Azhnyuk: Inexpensive local hardware now runs near-SOTA open-source AI models
“You can have basically an inexpensive computer running, you know, what was a state of the art model year and a half ago, running it locally on a device with an open source model, which also means that the Chinese can have it, the Russians can have it, the Nort…”
Jul 8, 2026 bullish
Aug 11, 2026 bullish
Patil: Closed frontier models capture the majority of market value
“And actually, if you look at the amount of value captured, it's actually the closed source frontier models. You know, the whole pie is growing, but it's growing so fast that even as the open source models like share expands, the frontier models are still able …”