Cognition AI

also referred to as: cognition

includes Cognition Devin

56 statements across 18 episodes · 27 bullish · 5 bearish · 14 people on the record · first statement Apr 27, 2024 by Shawn Wang · said 135 times in 44 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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brought up most by Shawn Wang (35), Lance Martin (10), Dylan Davis (8), Joubin Mirzadegan (6), John Yang (6), Alessio Fanelli (6), Walden Yan (3), Ronak Malde (3)

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Everything said about Cognition AI, oldest first

Apr 27, 2024 positive
Disclosure
Swyx: Devin translated and debugged Karpathy's Python LLM into raw C
“I've been using it to translate Andrei Karpathy's LLM-II.py to LLM-II.c, and it needs to write about a raw C code and test it debug, you know, memory issues and CUDA issues and all that.”
Shawn Wang Apr 27, 2024 ▶ 1:38:18 This World Does Not Exist — Joscha Bach, Karan Malhotra, Rob Haisfield (WorldSim, WebSim, Liquid AI)
Sep 27, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Shawn Wang says Devin's breakthrough was Agent-Computer Interfaces, not advanced planning
“The planner is like actually pretty simple, but ACI. That they book through on.”
Shawn Wang Sep 27, 2024 ▶ 45:28 Language Agents: From Reasoning to Acting — with Shunyu Yao of OpenAI, Harrison Chase of LangGraph
Dec 2, 2024 positive
Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Dec 2024
Swix: Bolt, Devin, and AI Agent Startups Rely on Netlify Deployments
“Both Bolt and Cognition DevIn and a bunch of other sort of agent type startups, they all use Nullify to deploy because of this one feature.”
Shawn Wang Dec 2, 2024 ▶ 18:31 0 to over $8M ARR in 2 months as a Claude Wrapper (Bolt.new, Qodo)
Jan 28, 2025 positive
Opinion
AI agent moats lie in business interfaces, where Devin leads significantly
“I think that may be where most of the, like, if there's any mode here, it's gonna be around, like, the interfaces into humans and their businesses. And Devon, like, has a major, major lead on, on making that work really well.”
Shawn Lewis Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 33:22 Beating OpenAI and Anthropic by Looking At Data: the new #1 on SWE-Bench w/ W&B CTO Shawn Lewis
May 21, 2025
Disclosure
Alberti: DeepWiki auto-updates documentation for free repositories displaying its badge
“So we just decided, okay, how about we just detect whether you have the wiki batch and then we'll keep it updated for you.”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 14:19 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025
Disclosure
Silas Alberti: DeepWiki scaled infrastructure for tens of thousands of developers
“I think the particular thing that we had to make happen for DeepWiki was, like, scaling up the infra so we could support, like, tens of thousands of open source developers at the same time. And I think also just, like, Making it be, there's like no sign up req…”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 2:30 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Alberti: DeepWiki compute spend may break $1M soon
“So we think we should be now at like the high, like tens of thousands of repos. So I guess you can like do the rough map. Like we might be approaching quite significant numbers of compute spend here. I mean maybe we'll like break the million soon.”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 3:46 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025 positive
Insight
Alberti: Multi-Turn RL Enables Aggressive Code Optimization Over Single-Turn Models
“Basically the single-turn model that was just trained on, like, getting the best result after one turn. It would basically be a little bit, like, too careful, because it couldn't risk writing, like, non-compiling code, whereas, like, the multi-turn model would…”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 30:19 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025
Disclosure
Silas Alberti: DeepWiki began as a free open-source side project
“I mean, it was supposed to be this like open source focus, like free site project almost, but it became bigger than expected.”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 1:34 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025
Disclosure
Alberti: Devin updates codebase indexes on every commit for paid users
“If you like pay for Devin, for example, like we actually update it on literally every commit incrementally.”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 13:42 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Alberti: DeepWiki experienced spikes of 2,000 indexing jobs queued
“Sometimes it's like random spikes. I don't know how they happen. Like 2000 indexing drops in the queue. Suddenly it was like the other day.”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 11:35 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Alberti: Setting up dev environments is Devin's highest onboarding hurdle
“So Devon actually needs, like, a full dev environment to be set up. And I think you guys probably both went through this when you onboarded with Devon. It's, like, probably, like, the highest friction onboarding point that we still need to, like,”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 23:25 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Alberti: Cognition is based in SF after early nomadic hacker houses
“We're actually mainly based here in SF. I mean, yeah, the founding mythology is, I think we were a nomadic company in the beginning. So we had hacker house in different places. I think the first one was actually in Burning Game. Then it was in New York, then b…”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 0:40 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025 positive
Insight
Alberti: Small numbers of manually curated evals beat large eval sets
“I think usually like small numbers of very high quality evals are the way to go and like we curate them manually and make sure they're really good.”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 17:39 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
May 21, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Alberti: Cognition built its own in-house vector database
“This culture of like building everything in-house. It's also kind of funny, like we, there's like a rack component to this. And I've been actually, I personally advocate, I can just like use a vector database and make life easy. But then there's a really stron…”
Silas Alberti May 21, 2025 ▶ 10:46 DeepWiki: The GitHub Encyclopedia
Jul 5, 2025 positive
Insight
Davis: Sequential Single Agents Succeed in Coding via Cumulative Context Passing
“By doing this approach with single agents, you're likely going to achieve More success, because you have all the context from previous agents. The reason it's beneficial is that all the actions taken previously are baked into that next agent's context, so it d…”
Dylan Davis Jul 5, 2025 ▶ 18:19 ⚡️Anthropic vs Cognition on Multi-Agents: A Breakdown with Dylan Davis
Jul 5, 2025 negative
Insight
Davis: Multi-Agent Systems Struggle in Coding Due to Strong Sub-Task Coupling
“When using a multi-agent architecture versus a single agent for coding. And the main issue is that these are dependent upon each other. They're strongly coupled in the sense that when I take an action, that action then is impacts all the other sub-agents if it…”
Dylan Davis Jul 5, 2025 ▶ 15:40 ⚡️Anthropic vs Cognition on Multi-Agents: A Breakdown with Dylan Davis
Jul 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Windsurf employees received 10 to 12 poaching emails during merger weekend
“And I don't think it was reported, but like time was not our friend. We had customers like starting to email like, Hey, what's the, what's going to happen to the company. And we had recruiters. I think almost every employee probably got like 10 or 12 recruitin…”
Jeff Wang Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:38:34 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: Devin built many of Cognition's API integrations and internal dashboards
“A lot of the API integrations that Devin has were built by Devin. You know, a lot of our own internal dashboards and metrics tracking within Devin were actually also built by Devin.”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 1:16:53 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Other companies and VCs sought deals with Windsurf before Cognition merger
“When Scott, when I talked to Scott, it was just like, Hey, this kind of makes sense. Like there was other companies. That were interested. There was actually VCs that wanted to invest. But Scott, as a person with Russell, and then I was with Graham just talkin…”
Jeff Wang Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:35:38 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Prior to merger, Devin was building an IDE and Windsurf an agent
“We actually looked at each other's roadmaps, like product roadmaps and the Devon team was actually looking to build an ID and our team was actually looking to build a remote agent.”
Jeff Wang Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:44:33 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2030
Scott Wu: There will be way more software engineers than ever
“And so, you know, I think software engineering, the job that we call software engineering is going to change, but I think practically, like, there's actually going to be way more software engineers than ever, you know, and I think there's a lot of precedent fo…”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 1:26:26 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 positive
Opinion
Scott Wu: AI is shifting from text completion tools to autonomous agents
“The first wave of generative AI is what I generally call these text completion products, right? And, you know, that makes a lot of natural sense if you think about it that obviously the interface of a language model is text completion, right? You give it a pre…”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 1:18:06 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025
Disclosure
Wu: Cognition has no plans to change Devin and Windsurf product philosophies
“What I would say at a high level is, look, I think spiritually, you know, we really want to maintain the philosophies of both of these products and we have no plans to change that.”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:43:16 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 positive
Insight
Scott Wu: Software engineering is investigative work suited to autonomous agents
“There's so much more to being a software engineer than typing the code, right? A lot of the work that you're going to do is, you know, you're going to be looking into a bug, You're going to be looking at the different files of the code base. Maybe you're going…”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 1:19:35 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Scott Wu: AI will make engineers 5-10x more effective
“I think, you know, our demand for software to be built is actually probably a lot more than 10 X what we're currently getting, and so, you know, I think what happens is we get to open up the power of software engineering to a lot more people, and every single …”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 1:27:04 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wu: Autonomous coding agent capability currently doubles every 70 days
“What you see in general is that that doubling time is about every seven months, which already is pretty crazy, actually, but in code, it's actually even faster. It's every 70 days, which is two or three months, and so, you know, if you look at various software…”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:04:27 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wu predicts AI coding agents will advance 16x to 64x in 12 months
“And I think that, you know, we're gonna see another 16 to 64 X over the next 12 months as well.”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:18:37 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Jul 28, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Scott Wu: No customer or training data was shared in Windsurf transaction
“There was no, no, no information that was given out, for example, in terms of customer data, training data, any things like that. And so, so, you know, all of that is, is, is strictly proprietary and then remains, you know, our exclusive access.”
Scott Wu Jul 28, 2025 ▶ 3:51:39 🕰️ The Oral History of Windsurf (ft. Varun Mohan, Scott Wu, Jeff Wang, Kevin Hou, Anshul R)
Aug 6, 2025 bullish
Prediction Partly held up
Swyx: Windsurf will stick around as an active product post-acquisition
“I think Windsurf as a product is going to stick around, and people who really like Windsurf, I mean, I was a Windsurf user for a long time we are going to keep using it because it fills a need, and like, obviously, Cognition bought it for a reason.”
Shawn Wang Aug 6, 2025 ▶ 44:51 The AI Agenda: GPT5 leaks and the business of AI News — Steph Palazzolo, The Information
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Insight
Martin: Multi-agent systems excel at parallel read-only tasks, not writing tasks
“I like the take that apply multi-agents to problems that are easily parallelizable, that are read-only, for example, context gathering for deep research, and do, like, the final quote-unquote write, in this case report writing, at the end. I think this is tric…”
Lance Martin Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 14:54 Context Engineering for Agents - Lance Martin, LangChain
Sep 11, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Martin: Cognition's Devin uses a fine-tuned model for context summarization
“Devin uses a fine-tuned model for doing summarization within the context of coding.”
Lance Martin Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 40:26 Context Engineering for Agents - Lance Martin, LangChain
Oct 1, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Feldman: AI startups are replacing closed-source models with fine-tuned open-source
“I think for sort of AI companies like Cognition, like all your competitors, like AlphaSense, like dozens of others, they are trying to replace closed source models with very, very fast open source models, and they're trying to drive the open source Accuracy dr…”
Andrew Feldman Oct 1, 2025 ▶ 14:20 ⚡️Raising $1.1b to build the fastest LLM Chips on Earth — Andrew Feldman, Cerebras
Nov 10, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
GitHub Agent HQ supports third-party agents like Claude Code and Cognition
“Switching gears to GitHub. Like we are all about model choice now and like making sure that and what's cool is that like, it's, we also have copilot, which is our harness. And co-pilot CLI, but we also have third party partners like Cloud Code and Codex and Co…”
Jared Palmer Nov 10, 2025 ▶ 13:13 ⚡ Inside GitHub’s AI Revolution: Jared Palmer Reveals Agent HQ & The Future of Coding Agents
Dec 7, 2025 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Ubl: Cognition and Cursor shipped RL fine-tunes of open-source models
“Just yesterday, I think we saw both Cognition, congrats, SWIX, and Cursor to ship RL fine tunes of unnamed open source models.”
Malte Ubl Dec 7, 2025 ▶ 5:22 The Great Evals Debate — Ankur Goyal & Malte Ubl
Dec 11, 2025
Insight
Pricing AI inference per million tokens is amateur thinking at enterprise scale
“A lot of people think about cost in terms of dollars per million tokens, right? And I think that that is actually amateur thinking. This only, only the kind of pricing you care about if you're a solo developer, but once you're in a large scale, like you guys a…”
Shawn Wang Dec 11, 2025 ▶ 34:43 The Future of Email: Superhuman CTO on Your Inbox As the Real AI Agent (Not ChatGPT) — Loïc Houssier
Dec 31, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Angelopoulos rejects claims that Cognition's Devin is dead
“Devin's not gone. Devin's everywhere.”
Anastasios Angelopoulos Dec 31, 2025 ▶ 23:20 [State of Evals] LMArena's $1.7B Vision — Anastasios Angelopoulos, LMArena
Dec 31, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Yang: Walden Yan emailed benchmark results two weeks before Devin launched
“I got an email about, like, two weeks ago. I think it was from, I think it was from Walden. It was like, hey, you know, we have a good number on it.”
John Yang Dec 31, 2025 ▶ 0:51 [State of Code Evals] After SWE-bench, Code Clash & SOTA Coding Benchmarks recap — John Yang
Dec 31, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Yang: SWE-bench adoption took off only after Cognition's Devin launch
“You know, we put it out October, 22, 23, and then people didn't really touch it too much. And then, of course, like, Cognition came on the scene, and Devon was an amazing release, and I think after that, it kind of kicked off the arms.”
John Yang Dec 31, 2025 ▶ 0:37 [State of Code Evals] After SWE-bench, Code Clash & SOTA Coding Benchmarks recap — John Yang
May 28, 2026 neutral
Insight
Yan: Practical multi-agent setups require isolated sandboxes without shared machines
“We've actually given Devon an MCP so they can just go arbitrarily message other Devons and create new Devons, et cetera. But I guess like it somehow creates like a really chaotic world in that sense. And so we, we've still found that most practical use on a da…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 39:45 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 negative
Insight
Yan: Getting agent integrations right often requires bespoke builds over MCP
“The thing we found is, so like MCPs obviously it has been like, it's like really big explosion of, oh, you can go like integrate it with all these different things. But to actually get the integration right and get the right experience, oftentimes we found tha…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 28:18 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026
Disclosure
Yan: Cognition built Blockdiff to speed up Devin VM state restoration
“The blockdiff file storage format, which is a file system format that we built so that the VMs could be spun up and down very quickly. Basically, the intuition behind this is imagine you have like a terabyte of disk And your agent only like wrote like a hundre…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 50:11 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026
Disclosure
Yan: Cognition uses nested Firecracker virtualization for beta Android support
“Another thing that we've actually recently added support now for, it's in beta, is doing Android development. To do that, we needed to support, I think, nested virtualization within our machines, because the VM itself is like a, is a virtualized firecracker in…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 20:13 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Yan: Cognition offers in-VPC deployment for Devin across customer clouds
“Now, one thing we offer when we go and Sell Devon to people is, you know, you don't have to worry about all the compute side of things. We'll make it work. We'll make it work in your cloud if you wanted to.”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 10:17 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Yan: Cognition built Devin to separate brain control from machine execution
“I think a lot of that, what you mentioned is why we actually from the start built Devon to what we called separate the brain from the machine.”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 13:39 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026
Insight
Yan: Local agents should defer decisions; cloud agents must test autonomously
“So the funny thing here is that the behavior between local agents and cloud agents, I think that is actually a bit different in their ideal state. I think local agents, you want them to be a bit more fast and let the user make the call on things. Actually don'…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 1:01:16 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Yan: Cognition merged PRs grew 7x as headcount grew only 10%
“It grew like seven X over like the last, I think it was like two months, three months, something like that. And then you see our engineering headcount growth, it's like gone up by like 10% or something.”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 4:31 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 bearish
Insight
Yan: Autonomous agent sandboxes require full VMs instead of Docker containers
“Docker containers, not really a true security boundary for one. But the other is like, if you are running real applications, a lot of times those applications use Docker and then you have to think about Docker and Docker, which is like really weird. And so I t…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 17:35 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Yan: Agent spending per engineer can reach $50,000
“I've seen numbers go that high for sure.”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 1:06:43 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Yan: Devin requires orchestrating multiple frontier models for end-to-end app testing
“Well, in some cases we found that actually no one frontier model can actually do this full end-to-end task itself. We've seen cases where we actually had had to orchestrate different frontier models together to kind of solve this problem together.”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 22:07 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Yan: Cognition stripped obsolete Devin code after Sonnet 3.7 release
“So it's almost funny to be talking about how like big of a leaps on it. 3.7 was, and we honestly, a lot of it was stripping out parts of Devon that were no longer needed with that jumping of intelligence.”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 3:40 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Yan: Agent VM grep is slow due to S3-backed network file systems
“A lot of these virtual machines actually underlying them don't use real file systems. They use these like network file systems where things are actually cached over the network actually in S three. So when you're grepping, you're actually making network calls …”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 49:33 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Yan: Early Devin state restorations on cloud VMs took 10 minutes
“When we just built it off of raw VMs from cloud providers like EC two, the boot up time Was so slow. I think and especially the, then like turning off the machines, saving them, and then to be able to bring them back up again when the, when you want Devon to w…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 9:47 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
May 28, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Yan: Roughly 95% of Devin's memories are auto-generated
“I find that, like, 95%, I think some crazy stuff like that of the memories that Devin has are all through these auto-generated things. Like, very few people actually just want to sit down and write big docs on, okay, here's how you're supposed to work with the…”
Walden Yan May 28, 2026 ▶ 32:02 Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray
Jul 8, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Bubna: Modal embedded an engineer at Cognition to reduce communication latency
“We sent him over because the latency of communication was too high otherwise.”
Akshat Bubna Jul 8, 2026 ▶ 9:20 The Future of AI Infra: from Kubernetes to Agent Sandboxes — Akshat Bubna, Modal CTO
Jul 10, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Swyx: Specialized agent labs like Cursor, Cognition, and Harvey will endure
“There will always be capability overhangs. They may not stay still, and so you gotta be nimble. But the Sierras of the world, the Cognitions of the world, the Cursors of the world, the Decagons and Harvey's, these are all agent labs for their field. They can b…”
Shawn Wang Jul 10, 2026 ▶ 23:47 Podcast Crossover: AIE, AGI, frontier lab strategy with ​ ⁨@matthew_berman⁩ and @swyxtv
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