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Yan: Practical multi-agent setups require isolated sandboxes without shared machines

Walden Yan · Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray · May 28, 2026 · at 39:45

Walden Yan, co-founder and CPO of Cognition (creator of Devin), discusses architectural challenges in multi-agent orchestration and why free-form swarms fail in practice.

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“We've actually given Devon an MCP so they can just go arbitrarily message other Devons and create new Devons, et cetera. But I guess like it somehow creates like a really chaotic world in that sense. And so we, we've still found that most practical use on a day-to-day basis has been one single. Figure out how to segregate the work and get and have other Devons work on it in like a relatively Isolated sense, each with their own boxes, not sharing machines, so there's like very little room for conflict is kind of the regime that you have to create today.”

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