closed models

4 statements across 3 episodes · 2 bullish · 0 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Apr 11, 2024 by Andreas Stuhlmüller · across every show →

Everything said about closed models, oldest first

Apr 11, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Stuhlmüller: Closed-source models consume most of Elicit's compute budget
“I'd say, like, in terms of number of careers, it's maybe similar. In terms of, like, cost and compute, I think the closed models make, make up more of the budget, since the main cases where you want to use closed models are cases where they're just smarter, wh…”
Andreas Stuhlmüller Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 36:17 Supervise the Process of AI Research — with Jungwon Byun and Andreas Stuhlmüller of Elicit
Dec 23, 2024 bullish
Assertion Supported
Soldani: 2024 open models rival frontier performance of closed models
“You have models that are, you know, reveling frontier level performance of what you can get from closed models, from like Quen, from Deep Seek. We got Lama III.”
Luca Soldani Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 1:15 Best of 2024: Open Models [LS LIVE! at NeurIPS 2024]
Dec 23, 2024 positive
Opinion
Soldani: Local models beat closed models in retrieval applications
“There are some applications where local models just blow closed models out of the water. So, like, retrieval is a very clear example.”
Luca Soldani Dec 23, 2024 ▶ 3:32 Best of 2024: Open Models [LS LIVE! at NeurIPS 2024]
Aug 6, 2025 neutral
Insight
Swyx: AI inference providers are a proxy for the open-versus-closed model gap
“The other thing I always think about from a finance point of view that, Maybe people don't even think, don't think about that closely, but obviously push back if you disagree, is that it's basically a proxy for the gap between open models and closed models. Be…”
Shawn Wang Aug 6, 2025 ▶ 13:16 The AI Agenda: GPT5 leaks and the business of AI News — Steph Palazzolo, The Information
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